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After years of research, awareness of the Natural and Common law of Mankind, is beginning to unfold globally.
Men and Women are beginning to discover who they really are, and more importantly who they are NOT.
In a nutshell, I have always held that the private cultivation and use of Cannabis by a Man, can in no way be hindered or regulated by a government who was established to protect the rights of that very Man.

Many of you know, I am against the Medical Marijuana tactic of decriminalizing one's use, through relinquishing authority over it's use to the government. I had posted a 9th amendment defense a while ago, and have been trying to solidify the court tactics to utilize that defense.
Something however was missing, a reasonable explanation as to why the courts never hear or allow defenses based upon the constitution.
Defendants have even been threatened with contempt of court for the mere mention of the document.

Now to understand what I am about to layout, you must first understand a few things.
1. There is no federal government of the 50 states in America, There is only the corporation (legal entity) THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
2. Your Birth Certificate when signed created a c'est qui trust for your benefit which goes by the same name as you do, except that all letters are captialized. (ever wondered why they call them capital letters?) This is your vessel of commerce, YOUR LEGAL ENTITY NAME.
3. So in commerce there are no people, only persons. People being Human Beings , Persons being legal entities.
All commerce is based up contracts between human beings signing as representative of a legal entity.
A court of commerce does not have jurisdiction of human beings, only legal entities. UNLESS a human being signs as the trustee or representative of a legal entity.
4. All statutes, codes, regulations, ordinances are created by the Corporations of governments, and applied only to parties in contract with them, and cannot be applied to a human being, unless he is acting in capacity of the trustee of his PERSON.
This includes prohibitive laws against cannabis. As soon as you sign anything acknowledging the charges against YOU, you become YOU and have now given jurisdiction to the commercial court.
There is much more explanation about this, Go research the subject, and learn as much as you can.
This is a file I found while doing research, It is dated somewhat, and should be checked for errors, but gives a basic summary of legalese.
5. This is not a defense, this is motion for proof of jurisdiction, and is not for the faint of heart or ignorant.

The courts will do and say anything to gain jurisdiction.
Your challenge of Jurisdiction should begin upon first contact with police.
Inform them that your legal status is that of a Man, and do not wish contract with them.

Do Not consent to an unwarranted search of you or your property.
Do Not allow police to enter your home.
They will begin to pressure you to allow them, at this point, ask them if they intend to honor the oath they took upon assuming public office. If they refuse, inform them that you do not give consent to any of their actions, and will be filing a claim against them, for breaching your peace and rights as a "Man"
If they insist on violating your unalienable rights as a man, and arrest and book you, go peacefully, state your objections to a wrongful arrest and refuse to sign anything,
When they bring you before the commisioner, again state that you do not wish(use this word) to enter into any contracts with them, and ask at this time, if they believe that they have a criminal charge against you, then produce the name of the victim, or damaged party, and if it is of a contractual nature produce the original contract signed by both parties.(this is why you dont sign shit. Ever wonder why signing that speeding ticket is such a big deal? It's your acceptance of their offer to contract)
It is law that without a case their is nothing for the courts to decide. No contract, No damaged party, No Case.
Ask the commisioner at this time if you are free to go, or will she state the claim against you.
She states the statute of prohibition of course, which is not a claim against you, because you are acting, and have acted as a Man, and not the legal entity that they assume you to represent.
Do Not Enter a Plea
Do Not hire or accept an attorney.
Either of these actions will be interpreted as acceptance of their jurisdiction.


There are different avenues which can be chosen at this stage.
one method is:
ASAP file a counter claim demanding proof of jurisdiction. This counter claim must contain the correct legalese, so again research this stuff before you attempt to exercise them.
A man on the land is a sovereign. The supreme law of the land is the highest form of law. When a man claims his sovereign status, he becomes the lawmaker, not the subject of law. He is only subject to his creator. The sovereigns of America, established the government to serve them, not rule them. These things must be stated clearly in the claim :
1 Proclamation of sovereign status.
2.Establish a court of record on the claim
3. Demand that the defendent(yes, the state is now the defendent) prove jurisdiction
4. Clearly state that their actions without jurisdiction are a trespass on your peacful existence, and state a small amount of which you seek as retribution for your time and trouble.

Two major things have taken place by your counter complaint.
You establish a court of record. (court of common law) Now the judge cannot judge but only administrate.
You also have become the plaintiff in a common law court which means that you basiclly own the court.

The original case against you cannot go foward without the court providing proof of jurisdiction. If you maintain your sovereign status, then they have no jurisdiction, and they will attempt to trick you into constenting or accepting. This is why all of your motions and pleadings be on paper, carefully constructed to maintain your status. If the court steps over the boundries of their authority just object for the record, and address it on paper.

The best example of this method is at 1215.org

another example that is excellent is a video of this being used in a tax court.
http://youtu.be/hj7yaqBFCh0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://youtu.be/TBtrV6UGn0g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://myplanetganja.com/Cannabis%20Notice.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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There is a reason that this has been successful in all the courts of different nations which at one time were under the Crown of England.

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in really dishonest to suggest this as a good way to proceed

without also explaning just what the clerk or judge or officer you will be address has been told about you, that is ANYONE who walks and talks this way...
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I know exactly what they have been told.
http://myplanetganja.com/judgesbook.pdf
I also said
There is much more explanation about this, Go research the subject, and learn as much as you can.
This is a file I found while doing research, It is dated somewhat, and should be checked for errors, but gives a basic summary of legalese.
5. This is not a defense, this is motion for proof of jurisdiction, and is not for the faint of heart or ignorant.
It's not dishonest, if I believe it to be true,
And I havent told anyone to go do it, the only suggestion I made was to research it.
I was expanding on my perception of the law, and expressing it for anyone who may be interested in the subject.
This method is surely not for a socialist, it involves diminishing the power of government, not sucking on it's teet.

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didnt mean to imply you didnt believe this,
i mean dishonest like the christian who swoop in on people have psycological breakdowns
and con them into ruining their lives with stories about how great its going to be


proof of jurisdiction ISNT found in the letter of the law,
its found in seeing who has power and can do as they please.

just as in revolution, where the mob has jurisdiction.


if your concern is your freedom and property
id suggest studying this instead,


Teaching People to Hate Their Own Govt. Is at the Core of the Project to Destroy the Middle Class
By Dennis Marker


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As a sovereign, which the supreme law acknowledge each human born to be, comes only under his creators jurisdiction.(oath spoken)
This is the entire premise of All Men Created Equal.
This is why the American Govt created the Constitution, It's sole purpose was to limit the central govt, from claiming jurisdiction over the individual's birth right.
In reality the American Govt(the real one) falls within the peoples jurisdiction, as the people created it and gave it life, and the created never rule the creator.
The ONLY LAWFUL way for a commercial court to claim jurisdiction over a sovereign is by the sovereign consent.

Because the herd, accepts something as being true, does not make it so.

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roller24 wrote: As a sovereign, which the supreme law acknowledge each human born to be, comes only under his creators jurisdiction.(oath spoken)
This is the entire premise of All Men Created Equal.
but your parents signed a marriage certificate; and in doing so PROMISED you to the state as property collateral. a promise they reaffirmed when they signed your birth certificate.

then you went to public school; then you got your social security number, then your drivers liscense and mabe later your own marriage certificate. each and every one of those CONTRACTS were agreement which underlined that you'd relinquished the sovereign you had at birth.

true, each of these was an unconscionable contract. but the law affords no mechanism to claim the fraud and dismiss their claims with prejudice





roller24 wrote:This is why the American Govt created the Constitution, It's sole purpose was to limit the central govt, from claiming jurisdiction over the individual's birth right.
the constitution did that only for the 1%
it went out of its way to GUARENTEE that most whites and everyone off color WASNT afford any of

roller24 wrote:In reality the American Govt(the real one) falls within the peoples jurisdiction, as the people created it and gave it life, and the created never rule the creator.
another deception!
"the people" was restricted to whites who owned property at the time of the constitutions writting and adoption; and this by design.

as the term "we the people" exists today, the constitution was decided NOT created by them.



roller24 wrote:The ONLY LAWFUL way for a commercial court to claim jurisdiction over a sovereign is by the sovereign consent.

ya, i covered that
roller24 wrote: Because the herd, accepts something as being true, does not make it so.
you sounds like those republicans on parade this week; one of them even had the nerve to remind us there is a difference between legal and lawful...

anyone talking this way is usually trying to worm their way out from a debt they owe



anyone trying to practice this occult knowledge is putting a target on themselves far larger and more prominent than growing weed

youve heard of "suicide by cop" where the suicidal, doesnt have the nerve to kill themselves, so they attack a law enforcement officer in order to get him to do the job?

chasing sovereignity is "suicide by law"

much worse though, as its slow and painful
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roller and his type are idealist
who cant bring themselves to accept that
political power has always trumped the rule of law,
always has, always will

this is the truth which superceeds the bits and pieces theyve dug up
it explains how things change
new policys are pressed into the bureaucracies in "just do it" moments.

the laws be damned, superseded.
leaving behind myriad incongruities
which people motivated to search the arcane discover

i ran with this crowd for decades,
had my own suscesses
noticed most of then were nothing but the system deciding to toss me aside because
it was cheaper and easier than letting me gum up their busy jobs with my foot dragging and other intransigence

trouble is,
that was the old days

NOW, all those people you have to deal with, have attended training seminars which have informed them that
anyone asking these questions is a terrorist

all your not going along like everyone else makes you a paper terrorist.
your guilty of stalking for pressing your case

and your probably hidding guns in your car and bombs in your house and your more than likely to
get in a shoot out over a traffic citation or a desk clerk not accepting a legal form youve marked up

the people involved in this gain some measure of "freedom"
but they pay for it many times over in when all the aspects of this practice are considered

psychology has various explanation for why they dont see the net loss



a group of these people in the army are on trail right now for killing two other soldiers who they were afraid
were going to report they were hording guns and bombs and planning assination and taking an army base hostage

a couple in alaska on this same team just plead guilt to planning to kill a local judge who had ruled
against them

hardly a week goes by without one of them getting in a gunfight with a traffic cop who just wanted to tell them
to fix their tail light

got an la times article from a few months ago up on the wall
bullet riddled suv and a 16 year old kid spralled in his deaths contortions on the curb

dads laying dead just out of site

traffic stop, way to go!



you cant ask the questions or respond to regular proceedures they way your suggesting roller,
without being lumped in with these worest examples of who this type of thinking appeals to


its really not fair to suggest its a good idea to anyone,
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Ok, once again we disagree.
I respect your opinion, and comprehend your position.
Back in 1993, I had a notion to recind my ss number, and drop out of the banking system, but pressure from my family kept me from doing so.
I'm not sure what re-ignited my desire to do so, but it has been nagging on my self opinion, that I knew that something was wrong, and was merely letting it remain so.
I don't hate the government, I do believe it needs to be pruned back to a point where it will be in it's proper role. I do hate the banks though, today's banking and monetary system is the engine of oppression world wide. Hell, our government isn't even a government anymore. Their role is now the military arm of the NWO, carrying out the orders of the banks who suck the wealth out of the working man, and don't forget the fucking pope, running the spiritual third of the 3 headed monster, so they appear to have some honor.
I don't know how much you know about the flow of money globally, but if the 99% knew that it was their money being used, by the REAL paper terrorists, they may want to know that a massive non participation in the "system", would lead to it's rapid demise.
I really think that the time is near for me to exit the matrix. My kids are all but full grown, and they were about all they could have taken from me that matters.
I don't mind living for an idea, or dying for an idea

Your point about racism is a bit ironic, slavery is slavery, regardless of color, and if we are all just chattel of the banking machine, what does that make us?

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its really cracks me up
when folks who have lived on the gravy train of privelege their whole lives,
suddenly stub a toe over something basically inconsequential
and want to make a stink about it.

rather than KEEP getting their ill gotten gains.

freedom?!?!?


you dont give a flying damn about freedom.
if you did. this would be at the end of your list of places to start.

and whats more.

youd be throwing yourself into league with those far more burdened by slavery
paying far larger prices than you
who also happen to be in organizational alignment with groups
far longer established
and better positioned to win

instead of dragging resource off to squander yourself


news for you dolts who get this latent wish for freedom and start shooting themselves and everyone who deserves it in the foot.

park your shit and get in line helping whats already been dont and closest to actually susceeding

the folks at work there, will give you WAY MORE BENEFIT when they susceed
than youd every think to ask for yourself
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