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Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:30 am**

i had a great thai plant but sadly was stolen in the 1980's.
so i have been looking for that flavor and high ever since.
i have grown out over 10 different crosses still no luck.

so since theres not many grow threads here i will start one.
a= thai light's
b= the flying dutchman thai F2
c= highland thai *seed from thailand
d= lowland thai *seed from thailand
2 seeds of each were soaked overnight in cups of water.
thai lights and lowland thai had 1 floater each next day.
then seeds were planted into pot's of soil 1/4" deep. then
placed into ziplocks and placed in warm place to sprout.
i also put 2 seeds each of highland and lowland thai in
paper towel because last time i tried them none sprouted.
well heres some photo's will update when something sprouts.

Posted: **Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:44 am**

I hope that:

A- You have some successfully germinate

B- You are equipped to successfully grow a Thai plant meaning both physical and temporal space- you'll need at the means to light at least 10 feet vertically and for close to a full year

and

C- You are prepared to happily accept some degree of gender androgyny as normal.

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:21 pm**

i have 3 seedlings up so far

they are
thai lights both seeds up A 1-2
TFD thai 1 seed up B 1
others have not popped yet.
also the ones in paper towel
have not popped either.

then to hax not my first sativa grow
but good advice just don't be doing no
shemale voodoo ok .

Posted: **Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:28 pm**

Excellent, I'm glad you know what's in store. They are often a beautiful and impressive plant and there's really no substitute anywhere for the herb they can produce. Hope you hang around and show us how these go.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:36 am**

well i have 4 seedlings
2 thai lights
2 the flying dutchman thai
sadly i think the highland and
lowland thai's were dosed with
irradiation in the mail. will try the
last seeds next run.
anyway there doing well.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:30 am**

Well, the Thai-Tanic and the Thai Lights should be a lot more practical to grow than a real Thai that hasn't been Dutched with Skunk #1 or NL.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:37 pm**

the flying dutchman seeds are not thai-tanic.
they were a thai on auction from ray davies
as a pure land race thai.

Posted: **Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:47 pm**

Excellent. This should make a most interesting comparison then. That is if you can save some of the Thai Lights for the 6-8 months or so between when they will be done and when the pure Thai should be!

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:26 pm**

ok seems i have 4 little plants now.
one photo is all of them still in cups.
then i transplanted them into pot's.
so there are photo's of A-1, A-2
B-1, B-2 they stretched a lot one day
but nothing to bad. week or two i can
pull a clone off them. till then enjoy.

Posted: **Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:43 pm**

I tried or helped try growing Thai from seeds in Thai stick a couple of times because the pot was so damn good how could you not? They grow like a SOB outside but never bud.

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:11 pm**

well most of thread is gone but heres update
last 2 showed so i got 4 males from 4 plants.
will try again next round.
to be continued

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:16 pm**

Keep plugging away. Any time the numbers are that small, any result in terms of sexing is likely.

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:06 pm**

Hax wrote:I hope that...you are equipped to successfully grow a Thai plant...
you'll need...the means to light at least 10 feet vertically and for close to a full year

A YEAR?

Holy Jebus!!!!!

Posted: **Mon Jun 21, 2010 7:25 pm**

4males should be grown out so you can choose which to use for pollen,not only for when you find a girl,but for any crosses you might want to doin the future .imho one souldn't kill males asap

Posted: **Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:14 am**

What a cunt.
(sorry for your miss fortune).

LUDA.

Posted: **Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:06 pm**

ok here we go again same line up

a= thai lights
b= the flying dutchman thai F2
c=highland thai *sent from thailand
d= lowland thai *sent from thailand

there soaking in water. will plant in soil tonight.
hope i get some girls this time

Posted: **Tue Aug 17, 2010 12:28 pm**

You will for sure. I just hope you get at least one girl of each, the prospect of seeing these grown at the same time and the results documented I find fascinating. Good luck.

Posted: **Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:27 pm**

well i have same as last time 2 thai lights and 2 TFD thai's up.
the highland and lowland ones have not popped. old seed
i think they got messed up in mail or something.
anyway here are the 4 that popped.

Posted: **Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:11 pm**

well the seedlings are doing well.
little burn on them from me using
a little to hot of soil mix in the cup's.
all and all looking good tho.

Posted: **Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:27 pm**

A little burn on the tips at that age just says to me you've nailed it at maximum. As they grow they will quickly outgrow the burn and begin to use every bit of the food productively. If you don't see at least a teeny bit of nute burn on seedlings in soil I reckon you've left it short.

Posted: **Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:42 pm**

ya was handfull worm castings.
handfull of steer compost and
handfull of black gold.
little hot but like you say they will grow out of it quick.
looking good not stretching like last ones so im
hoping there female. males seem to stretch more.
here's a side view. wish leaf's were more skinny
little wide for a thai but who knows till it's done

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:17 am**

The Thai I tried to grow (note the phrasing) often didn't assume their trademark ultra thin leaflet foliage until around the time the phylotaxy went from opposite to alternate (near the onset of sexual differentiation).

Posted: **Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:44 am**

ok they are growing well. so i transplanted them
from there little cups into pot's. still a little burn from
the hot starting mix i had them in but doing fine.
the thai light's had better root's than the TFD.

Posted: **Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:32 pm**

A-1 and B-2 look the most Thai so far.

Posted: **Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:52 am**

well they are growing well. i have taken first clone
off of them. will clone some more as they grow.
they are 4 diff sizes b2 the largest and a2 the smallest.
so here's a update on them.

Posted: **Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:49 am**

OK, those have gone into alternate phylotaxy, they are ready to easily sex. Those will declare through preflowers soon even if you don't reduce the photoperiod to force them to show. Looking good. Remember tropical sativas don't generally like being trimmed down into low bushy shapes with a lot of growing tips, it often seems to reduce overall plant vigour and create a whole lot of wispy little buds rather than proper colas.

There's surprisingly little horticultural knowledge concerning tropical sativas out there on the internet.

Posted: **Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:28 pm**

well myself i like to have 4-6 top's vs 1 large top.
i have done a few sativa's i would rather have
several bud's than to have 1 big foxtail bud.
thanks for looking.

Posted: **Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:42 pm**

4 to 6 is fine but sats won't reward much more than that in my experience. For whatever reason they also generally hate being kept short in height in my experience as well. If possible let them get at least 6 or 7 feet in height and provide some side lighting to help there. Then there's the long flowering period. I know, they are a pain in the ass.

Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2010 3:34 pm**

ok b2 is the largest so i have taken clones
and pinched some top's. so today goes into
the bud room. the other 3 are about a week
behind. thanks for looking

Posted: **Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:58 pm**

well have grown nicely. i have pulled 5 clones
off of each. got 3 out of 4 rooted clones so far of
each off the first clones i took. one is being slow.
other clones will be rooted in week or so.
so tonight the other 3 went into bud room.
so now the wait to see if i got some girls.
well here they are.

Posted: **Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:53 pm**

Did someone say something about a search for the old thai (tied) stick?

chocolatey

and yes they used real bamboo

Im on the odyssy and

years of searching

breeding

Ok i smoke some

just now

White Russian

but it doesn't compare to

Blockhead

Posted: **Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:06 pm**

You going to transplant them babys into some bigger pots with a small shot of nitrogen?

Posted: **Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:22 am**

no they are staying in those little pot's.
they did get a dose of fert's that night.

well sadly B2 has shown it's sex it's a male.
others are a week or more behind. hope i don't
get 4 males again. thanks for looking.

Posted: **Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:27 am**

ok after a good inspection tonight
i have 3 girls

so i have
a1-a2-b1 that are female so far.
so a1-a2 is thai lights and b1 is
TFD thai. now comes the wait and
the weekly hermi checks. i still have
clones of b2 the male. but plant was
enjoyed by my rabbit. so since there
only just showing only 1 photo. will
take some when they fill in some.

Posted: **Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:46 am**

I wouldn't be too scrupulous about culling plants that show some degree of hermaphrodism, good Thai is famously monoecious. If you see no herm tendencies it probably just means you don't have the real deal.

Posted: **Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:53 pm**

i don't plan on culling. just need to keep eye on them.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:41 pm**

MadMoonMan wrote:Did someone say something about a search for the old thai (tied) stick?

chocolatey

and yes they used real bamboo

Im on the odyssy and

years of searching

breeding

Ok i smoke some

just now

White Russian

but it doesn't compare to

Blockhead

so any good weeds tied to a stick is thai stick... gotcha

blockhead was nothing till it met deepchunk

Posted: **Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:36 pm**

well there growing nicely now. doing the
stretch and the wispy buds and thin leaf's.
looking good tho. got rooted clones of them
all. so now just the wait. i will take better photo's
next time close up. so a1,a2 and b1 thanks for looking.

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:24 am**

lookin healthy mate......

my little sister lives in thailand and has sent me a couple of bags (about 10g each) over the past year or so. i have kept all the viable looking seeds and hope to bust some after xmas. the smoke wasn't great (harsh but strong), but im hoping thats down to growing conditions and 'post harvest handling'.

how long to go? weeks? months? years?........

Posted: **Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:36 am**

Looking good and generally proper in appearance. With tropical sats it's a bit subjective deciding when they are done, it's not like indicas where they get to a certain point and it's reasonably obvious they are done getting better.

Posted: **Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:04 pm**

they are growing very nice.
well they do not have the smell i am looking for
but some nice sativas none the less.
so i took some photo's of them a1 - a2 - b1
budding slow so will be a while b4 there done
but i don't mind. enjoy

Posted: **Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:43 pm**

They do look like they might have some Thai in them. Beautiful. I got an almost perfect replication of the Thai smell/buzz from some randomly crossed Joey Weed lines. Oddly though that plant didn't look particularly Thai.

Posted: **Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:22 pm**

Sorry I missed you earlier in this thread.

Ray's Thai f-2's were determined to be F-1's according to the Dutchmen. The matter was discussed at the TFD forum at CW, and Ray told me TFD contacted him about acquiring some of his seeds because they no longer had that linage in there stable.

I grew Ray's Thai "F-2's" and had no problems indoors and outdoors. I hope you made some seeds, going by posts from the TFD's CW forum they too would F-1's. Also grew his Thai White Widow Which was the Dutchmen's Thai daddy with BG's breeding Lady Widow. Killer stuff that got rave reviews from multiple growers.

RIP Ray

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:47 pm**

ok still going this is prob the last i will
photo them b4 i cut them down. they have
a few weeks left to go. lot of new growth.
the brown leafs are from me using trace
element's a little early.
so got a1

a2

b1

sadly they don't have the thai smell.
should be good tho none the less

Posted: **Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:06 am**

Halfway through your post I was going to ask if they have that thaistick smell. Well you can console yourself with the fact that if they'd been pukka Thai, they still probably be a month or more further from being done, there'd probably be some male flowers and the buds would be massively smaller too. Real Thais don't make buds anywhere near that impressive, which is probably why nobody wants to grow it or sell seeds.

Posted: **Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:21 am**

they could go another month or so lot's of
white hairs still popping out. the buds are
very sativa large but airy the reason they
look so good is they have had 1000 watt's
mostly to themselves. i look for male parts
every day. i have grown a lot of sativas so
im pretty good at training them for better buds.
they would look better but i hit them with
the trace elements a little to early to burn
the shade leaf's off but are doing ok.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:45 pm**

Here's the largest bud I've ever grown that exhibited the true Thai chemotype. I've seen photos of larger on the internet but never first hand. This wasn't even sold as a Thai, it was a random Joey Weed mashup that happened to have a near perfect Thai chemotype.

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2011 12:52 am**

I like the composition of the images in the second post on this page almost as much as I like the buddage

The lighting and shadows in the background look awesome in those images

Great work on both, the buddage and the images

,
WHAB

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:49 pm**

ok a2 seems to be done. so i took
some photo's of it and trimmed it up.
smells good but not like thai.

so looked nice for a plant in a 1 gal pot.
the a1 and b1 are still sending out lot's
of white hairs still so will be a while yet
till there done. the a1 is really going
to town growing. the reason for the
brown leafs is i use trace elements to
burn them off. i added a little early is
why theres so much brown but it trimmed
off nicely. plant was put into bud on 10/10/10.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:14 am**

Hax wrote:Here's the largest bud I've ever grown that exhibited the true Thai chemotype. I've seen photos of larger on the internet but never first hand. This wasn't even sold as a Thai, it was a random Joey Weed mashup that happened to have a near perfect Thai chemotype.

Chemotype...?.. guess you're a more advance smoker then me.......Could you please explain that chemotype......It takes more than smoke test and apperance to tell a chemotype unless Thai makes your face purple or gives you swollen nuts every time you smoke it and no other weed does.

I guess one of my weaknesses is distinguishing highs but even if I was good at it I wouldn't be using thw word chemotype....Different ratios of cannabinoids doesn't make it a chemotype, there has to be a unique chemical.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:29 am**

You really aren't qualified to play the pedant ~G. Chemotype in reference to Cannabis refers to the smell, taste and psychoactive effects, all a direct result of the chemical make-up of the plant.

Posted: **Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:24 pm**

in reference to Cannabis

It doesn't play under different rules then other plants......Unless you're like rez and you redefine terms like IBL

Thia has all the same cannabinoids and terpenoids as other plants just in different ratios....Unless you can tell me a unique chemical in Thia you're just talking out your ass......"in reference to cannabis"...LOL...Stop learning your horticulture from MJ message boards.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:05 pm**

Then substitute whatever noun you prefer for "chemotype". How about "discernible chemical makeup" or "chemical expression of phenotypical variations"? It makes little difference in casual use.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:32 pm**

Chemotype isn't a word that should be used in casual use.......I could go on ICmag and tell them rez doesn't make an IBL and they would argue till their blue in the face, I could tell them theres no such thing as mediumless water culture and they would fight just the same.....Same with chemotype, you're not the only one misusing the term, I'm sure you learnded it from others misusing it and not being corrected on it, next thing you know all mj growers will be using it wrong.....Let me know when you find a plant that has seeds made of solid gold, then we can talk chemotype.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:41 pm**

come on enough

this is a grow thread please fight elsewhere
thank you

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:04 pm**

Pretty sure we've stayed on topic in a civil manner

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:06 pm**

Ray's Thai f-2's were determined to be F-1's according to the Dutchmen.

How was that determined by someone who had no part in the breeding...?

Posted: **Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:40 pm**

i know a guy who has a pound of 69 to 74' VIETNAMESE weed seeds,don't know if they are labeled or just mixed,it would take me some footwork
to locate him,whats it worth to ya ? all i know is both highland and lowland

i didn't mean to say Thai i meant VIETNAMESE

Posted: **Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:48 pm**

ya a lb of thai seed sounded to good to be true.
i thank you for your offer but i am looking for
thai that tastes like old thai did.
anyway i trimmed and dried A2 and a 2 week +
cure. had a nice strong sativa taste and decent high.
still not the flavor tho. so i checked for hermi's whole
time did not see any even when i trimmed. yet i have
so far 6 ripe seeds from a bud so will need to break it
up by hand as i smoke it to look for more seeds as i go.
other 2 plants are still going. thanks for looking

Posted: **Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:11 pm**

well i have trimmed down the last 2
sadly not smell/flavor i am searching for.
so first we have A1

: a1

: a1-2

: a1-3

then we have B1

: b1

: b1-2

well back to the search thanks for looking

Posted: **Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:56 pm**

great looking none the less!

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Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:32 am**

Lrus007 wrote:well i have trimmed down the last 2
sadly not smell/flavor i am searching for.
so first we have A1
a1.jpg

a1-2.jpg

a1-3.jpg
then we have B1
b1.jpg

b1-2.jpg
well back to the search thanks for looking

Those ladies are 3 1/2 wks away from celebrating a birthday....wow!

I hope she smokes to a satisfactory level for you, Lrus

Maybe not what you was looking for but at least to a satisfactory level...

Thanks for doing your grow-show here, too. I appreciate it

Happy Birthday, Ladies

and you, too, Lrus

,
WHAB

Posted: **Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:17 pm**

Lrus007 wrote:i had a great thai plant but sadly was stolen in the 1980's.
so i have been looking for that flavor and high ever since.
i have grown out over 10 different crosses still no luck.

Have you tried any other landrace strains from S.E. Asia?
I have some Cambodian and Thai seeds sent to me from a friend in Thailand if you would like to give them a run.

Posted: **Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:02 pm**

Hope it's still good smoke and makes you happy. The search continues...

Posted: **Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:27 pm**

is dry now just waiting for 2 week or so to cure
so i can try it out. takes forever to grow them
so i wait for a cure b4 i try them. the A2 was nice
good sativa high so these should be good also.
will photo buds when done as i did the A2.
thanks for looking

oh btw thanks whab was my bday on the 11th

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:17 am**

Lrus007 wrote:is dry now just waiting for 2 week or so to cure

Wouldn't a longer cure be better?
I find the sallies I've done kin git better fer as long as 6 months.
More potency, better flavors & aromas, than even a 30 day cure.

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:21 pm**

yes bob a longer cure is better i agree
but i want to taste it. so will try it in 2
weeks. then set aside for longer cure.

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:27 pm**

Lrus007 wrote:is dry now just waiting for 2 week or so to cure
so i can try it out. takes forever to grow them
so i wait for a cure b4 i try them. the A2 was nice
good sativa high so these should be good also.
will photo buds when done as i did the A2.
thanks for looking

oh btw thanks whab was my bday on the 11th

What a coincidence, you and the ladies celebrating B-Day's together

Happy belated one!

:puffpass:

,
WHAB

Posted: **Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:19 am**

Ahh, gotcha....a sneak peek then.

Posted: **Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:21 am**

well here we go again.
i have never bought seed before.
so here goes. i bought some seeds
over a year ago. had them sent to
a friend and to make a long story short
i got them today.

so here is the description

Gypsy Nirvana's Landrace Collection: Thai Stick Sativa ( Limited Edition )  In the 60's and 70's there was very little herbal cannabis available and much of what was available was known globally as "Thai Stick". It is estimated that a vast amount of all herbal cannabis sold in many places was this variety and other varieties were generally considered to be of lower quality. Rumour has it that the early thai sticks were dipped in Opium, though towards the 70's this was later changed to Cannabis Oils. What is agreed on is that the buds used to produce Thai stick were generally very good quality and often far outshone the other available brands. With the advent of home growing and better breeding methods the sticks were gradually replaced over time but not before earning themselves a place in the hearts of old time smokers and those famous canna-urban legends.   A recent trip to Thailand into the south region of the Nong Khai Province saw us meeting with some of the original farmers who grew this strain back in the 60's and 70's and offered us a priceless opportunity to both discuss the old methods and, best of all, acquire some of the progeny of those original plants. We have now brought those seeds back and would love the opportunity to offer people a chance to 'grab a slice of history' so to speak. Many times over the last 10 years we have been asked to get these and have not been able to acquire a reliable and validated source. This, i'm proud to say, is no longer the case. This limited edition batch is going to make some of you incredibly happy, of that i am in no doubt at all.   As a tropical Sativa we do not recommend you take on this strain lightly. It has not been grown and stabilised to modern western standards and retains much of it's original charm. It is simply a good, unadulterated historic strain sourced directly from those who grew the original. There may be expressions of different phenos and other issues associated with taking an indigenous strain and growing it away from it's natural environ. Before you bid on a pack of these we strongly recommend you take a moment to research strains from this area and the area itself to familiarise yourself with the plants requirements and natural environment. The reward will be a chance to relive one of the most important historic types of Sativa. Not many of us can say we have genuinely grown this for ourselves and even fewer will be able to remember the original sticks themselves ( especially after trying one! ).  As for the smoke report, well, i'm not going to sell this to you. You have no doubt heard the fond stories relating to this strain and seen the distant glazed look people in the know get when they remember this strain. I'd hate to spoil that experience by giving you a preview. You really need to try this for yourself, as a description from me would do it no justice at all.   A true gem you wont find anywhere else, we are proud to offer it to you and apologise profusely for the wait! . . . . . . . Gypsy Nirvana

so the search goes on.
gymshoes i am interested in your post
i sent you a pm. thank you
thanks for looking

Posted: **Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:26 am**

ok have soaked 4 seeds till they sank.
then i planted into soil and into ziplocks
to sprout. here we go again. meet
c1 c2 c3 c4 will update as they sprout.
in a nice warm place until they sprout
i sure hope these will have the smell/flavor.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:29 pm**

This should be interesting. I'll be following this one, good luck.

Posted: **Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:27 pm**

Your plants look great, whatever the origin. I remember smoking thai stick only a few times when I was younger, If I recall, a true thai stick is laced with opium. Perhaps that is the missing aroma or taste you are pursuing.
I made some thai sticks a few years ago but substituted the opium with honey oil, the result was very potent, and hashy.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2011 12:00 am**

roller24 wrote:Your plants look great, whatever the origin. I remember smoking thai stick only a few times when I was younger, If I recall, a true thai stick is laced with opium. Perhaps that is the missing aroma or taste you are pursuing.
I made some thai sticks a few years ago but substituted the opium with honey oil, the result was very potent, and hashy.

no it's the thai that has the taste. i am old enough to remember
many thai sticks the opiumated ones were $5 more. anyway
i had one for 3-4 years from seed and the taste was the pot
and so was the expanding in the lungs and creeper high. sadly
it was stolen. so i have missed it very much. so is why the search.

then opium i grow poppies every year have for a long time.
i know how to make cooked opium for smoking. i smoke
some but mostly make tea. i do collect raw opium every summer.
some real thai dry sift kiff and some smoking opium in my
steamroller would be a wet dream for me

thanks for looking.

Posted: **Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:45 pm**

I hope that is pukka Thai stick genetics and further that you are ready for the stretchy, spindly, can't handle being topped, never maturing, probably banana throwing, (but wonderful) ugliness that is real high grade Thai.

Posted: **Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:08 am**

there you go again throwing your shemale voodoo

again.

Posted: **Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:57 pm**

well have 4 seedlings up 4 out of 4 always a good sign.
the first one popped on fri 2nd one on sat and the last
2 on monday. thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:30 pm**

May they grow short, stocky, branchy, have huge fat tight buds and all be unambiguously female. And taste, smell and hit the head just like the best thai stick.

Posted: **Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:18 am**

why thank you, we can only wish.
be a while b4 we see..

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:35 pm**

Lrus007...Have you ever considered memory in the taste you are looking for?
I mean, memory makes everything golden...better than it really was.

Posted: **Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:00 pm**

that's a good point but i do not think so.
it had a flavor all it's own. some of the crosses
did have a slight thai smell but tiny.
let's say you did not smell/taste vanilla for many years.
then if some one had you smell/taste chocolate
strawberry and vanilla ice cream. you could pick the
vanilla out with no problem. same with the old thai
it had a flavor that was distinct.

Posted: **Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:38 am**

well since my tread was bumped today i figure i could
do a update. they are growing very slow also did not
like the hot soil i mixed up. little more burn than i would like
but they will grow out of it. but let's me know to be mild on
the fert's all the way thru.

: seedlings

thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:47 am**

well they did not like the pot's of soil they were in
no growth and yellowing burnt ect. so tonight i
transplanted into some mild soil 2/3 potting soil
and 1/3 worm castings. dosed with super thrive
will see how they do. in photo the one plant is not
white just looks like it from MH. slow i should have
been snipping a clone off them by now.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:33 am**

exotic Sativa is always difficult to grow well...hope they work out for you....

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2011 8:46 pm**

last night i have put the thai plants into bud.
they have grown like hemp lol more stem
than plant. kind of funny would sit a few days
then it would grow more stem 1" or so
then sit again. also been pale whole time.
i had a 1000 right down on them. but still
rather spindly. they grew very slowly.
will update when they show sex few weeks.
so here they are.
c1

c2

c3

c4

thanks for looking

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2011 10:08 pm**

Lrus007 wrote:i had a 1000 right down on them. but still
rather spindly. they grew very slowly.

Whenever I've done heavily or completely sallie strains, they don't seen to like to be up close to the light. The hybrids & indies do better.

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2011 10:27 pm**

could be bob they sure did not thrive under one.
in bud room they are off to side now will see how
it goes. these are growing like hemp or 70's brick weed.
even clones are being a bitch to root.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Mon May 30, 2011 11:26 pm**

Good Thai should look a lot like ditch weed- really ugly mofos. This shows promise.

Posted: **Tue May 31, 2011 5:53 pm**

i remember several members back at og,
theyre registered because; they had dug up some property of old relatives or friends and had found some pot seeds which had been stored in the atic in some medicine bet for 20 years...

their third post was a question asking how they should go about propagation...

the best replies i thought were those suggesting finding seasoned growers to hand them off to

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:18 pm**

ok it has been 3 weeks and only 2 have shown sex.
so first we have c4 plant shot and close up.

: c4 b.jpg (427.67 KiB) Viewed 4826 times

sadly it's a boy rabbit is eating it now.

then we have c2 plant shot and then close up.

it is a female

the other 2
have not shown yet but i have feeling
that there males. will keep looking every day.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:25 pm**

Sweet. Let this be the one

Or two.

Posted: **Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:27 pm**

ok 6 1/2 weeks later the other 2 are hardly showing.
first c2

then we have c3

both are hermi's c2 is female dom has more hairs
less ball's and c3 is male dom with less hairs and more balls
both are 4-5' tall i put them into greenhouse to see
if they will keep budding. so got 1 female 1 male
and 2 hermi's out of the 4 plant's least i got a female.
thanks for looking.

Posted: **Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:24 pm**

curious,
what keeps you front breaking their stalks and thus knocking they back to much shorter stature so you can get the lights down closer to the whole of their plant?

Posted: **Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:43 pm**

well if to tall i lean the top's over as to get more light.
the female one is only prob 2 1/2' tall. just the male
and the hermi's stretched big time. thanks for looking

Posted: **Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:15 pm**

Sounds and looks like you've got the genuine article there. Lucky.

Posted: **Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:49 am**

ive read it takes 20 weeks for those to approach anything like a finish...
what do you think?

Posted: **Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:38 am**

That's probably a reasonable guess. "Finished" is subjective though.

Posted: **Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:13 pm**

well c3 seems to be doing well.
sadly does not have the smell i am looking for.
thought i would do a update tho.
i really think that old time thai is extinct.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:59 am**

Lrus007 wrote:sadly does not have the smell i am looking for.

As compared to live plant?...or finished product?

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:51 am**

your gonna make me cry...

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 2:33 am**

live plant, very sativa smelling but not thai like.
it has a while to go yet. will keep updating.
thanks for looking.

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:52 am**

No....the smell you remember, is that a plant or product aroma?
Cuz if yer comparin to Thai ya remember smokin, then yer current process is not yet complete...dryin & curin will change yer turpines & affect the aroma.

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:36 pm**

well i had a thai long ago it has it's own smell
growing and after it was dry.
but in a way your right. i cant count it out until
it's dried and cured.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:24 pm**

Ben brought up in karma, possible difference of indoor vs outdoor??

Hadn't thought of that before, but it would have a big impact on quantity & combination of turpines.

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:08 pm**

ok i had a thai i grew from seed in the 80's
i grew that plant for 4-5 years mostly indoors.
then was stolen..
it had a certain smell to it. i cant describe it kind
of a clove, pepper, spicy smell. anyway had the smell
during grow and in dried buds. it had a smell that
you would remember if you ever smelled it.
let me explane a little. say you had vanilla and did not
smell or taste it for many years yet try to describe smell.
then say 10 years later you smell some. you remember that
it is vanilla because nothing else smells like it and is so
different that you know smell right away. it has it's own
smell. the old thai was like that had it's own smell/taste.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:11 pm**

what kind of lighting did you use back then???

Posted: **Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:35 pm**

same kind MH and HPS 1 of each are in bud room.
i have been putting them on MH side. so would be the same.
sativa's seem to like MH light better.
thanks for trying to troubleshoot.

Posted: **Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:53 pm**

well the c2 keeps chugging along. not even close to done yet.
here's a few shot's tho.

very sativa/hemplike total air bud.
will be a while b4 it's done.

i recently got some seeds and 1 of them was
lemon grass thai x deepchunk from cannacopia.
so i planted one. well it's got fat leafs so not much
thai in it but thought i would add it to thread.
so here is d1.

thanks for looking

Posted: **Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:12 pm**

ok the D seedling is doing well.

is a cross does not look very thai like.

bushy little duffer tho.
here it is freshly transplanted out of the little cup.

not very thai like with the fat leafs and bushyness of the
seedling but will post it all the way thru.

thanks for looking

Posted: **Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:03 am**

who knows,
might grow up to be covered in crystals and smoke the the scariest shit you ever come across!

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:19 pm**

Yeah looks legit enough. Thai while growing doesn't smell anything like Thai stick. It needs at least a month or two of cure before that smell/flavour develops. Growing, it smells just kind of generic pure sativa fruity with a musky undertone.

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:51 pm**

i disagree thai has it's own smell even growing.
i used to have the real thing.
this newest one is hard to call thai with the fat
indica leafs. but it's doing well
thanks for looking

Posted: **Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:22 pm**

Yeah it has this musky anisey smell underneath the usual sweetish sativa fresh resin smell, but it doesn't smell like Thai sticks.

Posted: **Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:51 pm**

well i have trimmed c2 tonight it looks 1/3 dead.
this was the fluffyest plant i have grown since
the 70's. was a real bitch to trim was all foxtail.
does not have the smell so the search goes on.
well here's a few photo's of it.
thanks for looking.

Posted: **Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:37 pm**

what bulb did those finish under?

Posted: **Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:26 pm**

1000 watt MH

Posted: **Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:56 pm**

I'd probably dig the smoke even if it didn't smell like Thai sticks.

Posted: **Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:10 pm**

well i put the LG thai x deepchunk into bud
last night. does not look like thai.
but here it is thanks for looking

Posted: **Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:50 pm**

No DC cross will ever look remotely like Thai. Might be good smoke though still.

Posted: **Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:45 pm**

well the LG thai X deepchunk is a male
my rabbit is eating it now.
well i think i am done looking.
real thai is not out there anymore
unless some old timer has been
growing it for years. so i guess i
am done looking. thanks for reading
this for so long

oh the gypsy thai is curing smells of hay
i will comment on how it tastes in few
more weeks of cure.

Posted: **Mon Oct 31, 2011 1:46 pm**

It's still being grown- in Thailand.

Posted: **Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:45 pm**

Lrus007 i really enjoyed reading this thread , i saw some thai seeds yesterday when i was shopping for some original haze seeds , any ways you might want to look into mama thai from seedsman heck i think i might just order some of them myself. good things

Posted: **Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:40 pm**

Lrus007 wrote:well most of thread is gone but heres update
last 2 showed so i got 4 males from 4 plants.
will try again next round.
to be continued

when u have unique genetics and u don't get a lady u should still grow out the male,record what u can for later use and savre that pollen. that at least gives u part of the gene pool that u a shot @ part of thegene pool u R seeking imho.

that thai u lost was not made from normal/2 sexes seed. think before u make you search even harder for yourself. it's a genetic crap shoot anyway; so try what ever means necessarry to increase your odds.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:16 am**

i keep clones of the males.
is why when they show there
rabbit food.

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:32 pm**

Lrus007 wrote:they could go another month or so lot's of
white hairs still popping out. the buds are
very sativa large but airy the reason they
look so good is they have had 1000 watt's
mostly to themselves. i look for male parts
every day. i have grown a lot of sativas so
im pretty good at training them for better buds.
they would look better but i hit them with
the trace elements a little to early to burn
the shade leaf's off but are doing ok.
thanks for looking

Those plants look great!

When can we get a sativa growing class from you? My Super Lemon Haze didnt quite grow like I wanted the first time around. This one should be better but...

Also do you think using greensand for trace minerals will burn at all?

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:16 pm**

well many will disagree with me but that's ok.
sativas do best in small pot's i use 1 to 1 1/2 gal pot.
my dirt mix is 1/3 worm castings 1/3 steer compost
and 1/3 black gold potting soil. is a heavy soil mix.
when you add bloom ferts. use 1/2 as strong as normal plants.
when in bud give a small dose of grow ferts every 2 weeks.
that will keep them green and growing. i use fitted trace
elements in the 5th or 6th week. that will make the fan leafs
yellow and dry up so they can be plucked off. i have never used
greensand so i do not know how it would work. hope this helps.
thanks for looking

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:24 pm**

ran into a suscessful old grower who said experience swore that a tapered container
narrower at the base than at lip
and the use of broken clay pottern for the bottom couple inches of the containers fill
were the tricks to making the most of container grown marijuanna

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 5:47 pm**

bentech wrote:ran into a suscessful old grower who said experience swore that a tapered container
narrower at the base than at lip
and the use of broken clay pottern for the bottom couple inches of the containers fill
were the tricks to making the most of container grown marijuanna

If you havent grown shit dont claim to know shit. No one cares what you read on overgrow.

At the very least stay out of the grow forums.

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 6:45 pm**

oh i forgot with the heavy soil i use. i water from
the bottom in trays top watering will water log the soil.
Lrus007

Posted: **Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:50 pm**

Thanks Lrus.

Posted: **Sun May 10, 2015 10:23 pm**

The taste comes from the cure as much as the herb.

Anyone who has ever smoked the *old school* thai (specifically the chocolate loose thai bud) will ever forget it. The small stick was not as good and the large stick 'Buddha thai' was a close second.

Initial taste was chocolate and caramel with a black pepper/cinnamon spicy taste undertone with a after taste of the best Nepalese temple ball hash ever made.

Yep, thread necropolis.....come from the dead

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 12:06 am**

The distinctive Thai scent still sometimes wafts from baggies of new" superpot". The genes were definitely blended into multiple lines. I grew some Joey Weed Mix seeds and had two plants that came out smelling completely Thai after the cure and and they finished outdoors. Good work JW!

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 6:15 pm**

good to hear. i grew out over 20 *thai's some from
thailand and some from many seed banks. far as i know
it is gone. unless some old timer has it and has had it a long time.
RIP thai
Lrus007

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 6:49 pm**

no mo thai!?! say it ain't so ma! It seemed so ubiquitous in the 70's...

Posted: **Mon May 11, 2015 6:54 pm**

i miss it a lot, sad to say it's gone.
Lruss

Posted: **Tue May 12, 2015 12:10 am**

Thai basically can only be grow to potential outdoors in the tropics, and in a market like North America that is no longer dependent on imported weed there's just no business sense in it any longer. If I was looking for straight seventies Thai genetics, I'd go directly to Australia where the old hippies in the hills still grow it.

Posted: **Wed May 13, 2015 9:41 pm**

Remember Vision Thai from Vision Creator ?

Yea, this stuff.....

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2015 12:03 am**

Doesn't look much like Thai, but it shows promise.

Posted: **Thu May 14, 2015 1:14 am**

yes i do dick
i grew some out. good pot but not thai flavor.

also jesus i had a thai was stolen long ago.
it had the flavor/high and grew fine indoors.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:48 am**

Zombie thread crawls out of the crypt:

It isn't really gone.

The reality of cannabis genetics, there are no strains. There are only individual plants made from two hemp escapees, kushes and hazes. Hazes are rope hemp escapees and carry the skunky flavor and phenotype of the tall fiber hemp. Kushes are seed hemp escapees and carry the berry flavor and short stature of seed hemp varieties. The two types of drug var cannabis both carry a citrus phenol flavor that cleans up as you get farther from the hemp they came from.

The flavors that result from this are tangerine and orange for kushes as berry gets more citrus, and hazes are grapefruit lemon as skunk gives way to citrus.

Hemp runs from berry through hempy to skunky, and drug var cannabis has a citrus phenol flavor. These two sets of flavor make up the entire base palette of flavor profiles we identify as strains. The pure drug var flavor is mixed with varying degrees of hemp to yield a dizzying array of flavor profiles such as minty and chocolate. Hemp being the source of most of the nuance as it has a more complete set of terpenes ect. The deal we have to make with the devil to get our good stuff is cleaning most of that nuance out in the selection of a good plant.

A thai is what happens when a clear haze like a Columbian gets some berry in it.

Short ver Tangie + Columbian = Thai, select for the haze side. You will have to run a freakin huge ass batch to get a few with clean flavor. This is because any genetics that cross over from berry kush to lemon haze will have to go through allot of hemp. This is also true for diesels which are pure kush with some skunk.

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The trick to getting' that plant' is running large batch selections and sifting for a clean profile.

Posted: **Sat Feb 22, 2020 6:04 pm**

unless some old timer has it, it is gone scone

Posted: **Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:36 am**

You are right of course, what is gone is gone.

I don't call mine a Thai or anything of the sort. What I am saying is you can breed a pterodactyl with chickens. It won't actually 'be' a pterodactyl, it would just be a giant chicken, but it will be the same size and it would look act and even taste like one.

But we still have the whole box of legos.

The part that needs doing regardless of the source genetics is the work of starting lots of the resulting seed from the cross flowering them and sifting the results for your target profile. Once you've made more than one of these you can cross those and get an even better example of it.

A favorite trick of mine at this point is to take two different lines inbred to the same basic profile and femming one female plant to cross with the other one.

Start fem seed of the cross and save lots of time space ect.

You are right that we will never get a real Thai, but if you can describe the profile and high you can find it.

Posted: **Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:58 am**

my best friend is atm in thailand

scoring

we will see

he wrote some notes, speaking in the highest dimensions one can, also knowing indoor stuff, i mean, he is able to judge

within a year, regarding my timeline, i will be deselecting ladyboys, and while that, you can talk about gone is gone is gone ... lol

Posted: **Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:28 pm**

deran i do wish you the best of luck.
i had several people in thailand seed me seeds.
they grew nice sativas. but did not have the flavor
or the kick of old thai.

Posted: **Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:36 pm**

After numerous reports from Thailand the past few years, I think the line that made Thai sticks appears to no longer exist in Thailand. The closest I've ever seen was a plant I grew from a Joey Weed Surprise Pack that had the correct aroma and flavor. There are rumors the Thai stick line is still grown in Laos —and that may have been where the original was actually grown— but that may just be idle gossip.

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