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[ben ttech]

:D

yep, ive been busy...



and it wouldnt be fluffy...
shifting the "sense" which is involved in an argument is well noted for breaking intransigent frames...

its an extension of the understanding of why analogies are so powerful...

they say " oh.... i SEE now..."

[WhiteHotAfterburner]

Fist off WHAB, that wikileaks based article is the author interpretation of what he found in the wikileaks docs, not citing of the actual docs or even links to ‘em for reader verification. Lets exaime the wording:

But WikiLeaks’ newly-released Iraq war documents reveal that for years afterward, U.S. troops continued to find chemical weapons labs, encounter insurgent specialists in toxins and uncover weapons of mass destruction.

“and uncover weapons of mass destruction”
Nice claim but nowhere in that article did it say WMDS were actually found, Nowhere.

An initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence of some massive WMD program by the Saddam Hussein regime — the Bush administration’s most (in)famous rationale for invading Iraq. But chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict — and may have brewed up their own deadly agents.

Notice he said “initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence..” but nowhere did he show or even say that on deeper look it did either. Innuendo.
Remments is not WMDs the Bush admin was referring to.

In August 2004, for instance, American forces surreptitiously purchased what they believed to be containers of liquid sulfur mustard, a toxic “blister agent” used as a chemical weapon since World War I. The troops tested the liquid, and “reported two positive results for blister.” The chemical was then “triple-sealed and transported to a secure site” outside their base.

How is this tied to Saddam or even large enough quantity to be considered for MASS destruction? It doesn’t. Red herring.

Three months later, in northern Iraq, U.S. scouts went to
look in on a “chemical weapons” complex. “One of the bunkers has been tampered with,” they write. “The integrity of the seal [around the complex] appears intact, but it seems someone is interesting in trying to get into the bunkers.”

Tampered with post invasion? How is this tied to Saddam WMDs? It doesn’t. Red herring.

Meanwhile, the second battle of Fallujah was raging in Anbar province. In the southeastern corner of the city, American forces came across a “house with a chemical lab … substances found are similar to ones (in lesser quantities located a previous chemical lab.” The following day, there’s a call in another part of the city for explosive experts to dispose of a “chemical cache.”

Chem lab, chem cache. What? What chems? What were they used for, to make fiberglass, to make bombs to fight the invaders with, what?
What does what the “insurgents” are doing to fight their perceived invaders have to with Saddam or evidence of alleged WMDs?
Nada.

Nearly three years later, American troops were still finding WMD in the region. An armored Buffalo vehicle unearthed a cache of artillery shells “that was covered by sacks and leaves under an Iraqi Community Watch checkpoint. “The 155mm rounds are filled with an unknown liquid, and several of which are leaking a black tar-like substance.” Initial tests were inconclusive. But later, “the rounds tested positive for mustard.”

Simply not WMDs or evidence of a WMDs prior to the war. This as the author noted earlier just remnants of what is left from gulf war one.

Goes on such vain ..

But the more salient issue may be how insurgents and Islamic extremists (possibly with the help of Iran) attempted to use these lethal and exotic arms. As Spencer noted earlier, a January 2006 war log claims that “neuroparalytic” chemical weapons were smuggled in from Iran.

His “salient” point is about post war activities. 2006? Iran? Insurgents and extremist that never existed under Saddam’s regime?
What does this have to with Saddam or Iraq having WMD or even evidence of it?
Not a thing and that his ending salient point? Sheesh.

Still waiting for his claim that wikileaks docs showing “U.S. troops continued to … uncover weapons of mass destruction”. Never listed where the docs say that or they even imply it, just vague innuendoes from the author.

You, inded, must have been dropped on your head, Int. ALL the links are there--the website is down, not my fault, but the docs are out there, probably on his many mirror sites and IF you really care to know the truth you'll seek them out. Here is one such site...

http://213.251.145.96/search/?sort=date&p=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

46,675 pages of evidence at your fingertips.

IF really DON'T care to know the truth? .

I'm only going to take one instance in your delusional post (fantasy), as I won't be wasting anymore time or effort on you ...you, Intrinsic, quote...

Notice he said “initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence"

While you completely discount, overlook, or don't even realize it's there in front of your eyes (system of being dropped on one's head) ...

The quote in FULL...

WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence of some massive WMD program by the Saddam Hussein regime — the Bush administration’s most (in)famous rationale for invading Iraq. But chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict

,
WHAB

[Intrinsic]

You, inded, must have been dropped on your head, Int. ALL the links are there--the website is down, not my fault, but the docs are out there, probably on his many mirror sites and IF you really care to know the truth you'll seek them out. Here is one such site...

http://213.251.145.96/search/?sort=date&p=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

46,675 pages of evidence at your fingertips.

IF really DON'T care to know the truth? .

I have a few rather huge downloads from wikileaks on one of my machines, (not connected to the internet). To search through at will and have done so, I’ve done many text searches but nothing about finding any WMDs in Iraq. not one reference found. I already done more then you even tried and the author failed at.
But the author made the claim its in there and then he refused or was unable to show/link/quote where it says that in any wikileaks docs that Soldiers continue to find WMDs in Iraq.

So Whab you presented the opinion piece as “proof” so why don’t you show me which wikileaks doc(s) the author is refering to that says in any sense “U.S. troops continued to … uncover weapons of mass destruction.”
You show me cause I’m too stupid to see it. Which wikileak doc(s) does it say that?

I'm only going to take one instance in your delusional post (fantasy), as I won't be wasting anymore time or effort on you ...you, Intrinsic, quote...

Sure cut and run away After you brought a fluff piece as proof of WMDs and it did not pan out.

Notice he said “initial glance at the WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence"

While you completely discount, overlook, or don't even realize it's there in front of your eyes (system of being dropped on one's head) ...

The quote in FULL...

WikiLeaks war logs doesn’t reveal evidence of some massive WMD program by the Saddam Hussein regime — the Bush administration’s most (in)famous rationale for invading Iraq. But chemical weapons, especially, did not vanish from the Iraqi battlefield. Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War, remained. Jihadists, insurgents and foreign (possibly Iranian) agitators turned to these stockpiles during the Iraq conflict

I did gave the quote in full and how does that change the point the author never did say a more extensive look did show it? Only left with that innuendo.
He just goes on “Remnants of Saddam’s toxic arsenal, largely destroyed after the Gulf War,” thus no WMD there just remnants at best. And how that little bit remmant is available to other possible factions now. This is nothing to with evidence Saddam having WMDs before the current Iraq invasion. And certainly not actually WMDs found as the author claims.

[bubbabush]

~O~

[Little Kate Chaos]

Egypt has had enough of being Egypt and has decided to be Iraq for a while??

Hmm, shrewd move by that Mubarek geezer. He'll do anything to cling on it seems. Bet nobody saw that coming...

[ben ttech]

park your ass eating whore kate,

until youve read every work al jazerra has to say on the subject...

your cant even be, a neutral observer...


mlm

[WhiteHotAfterburner]

~O~

Obama Confuses Iraq and Afghanistan Twice in Youtube Interview

Obama Swaps Iraq And Afghanistan

By ABBY PHILLIP
01/28/11

Hit with a tough question about his administration’s policy in Afghanistan and Iraq on Thursday, President Obama made a muddled mess out of his plans for withdrawing troops from the region.

Obama swapped “Iraq” for “Afghanistan” when he answered a question on YouTube about whether he still believes soldiers need to die in the wars there.

“As I said, we will be out of Afghanistan by the end of this year,” Obama said, a fairly significant misstatement of his administration’s Afghanistan policy, which doesn’t call for a troop withdrawal until 2014.
~Snip

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm ... 45073.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Egypt has had enough of being Egypt and has decided to be Iraq for a while??

Hmm, shrewd move by that Mubarek geezer. He'll do anything to cling on it seems. Bet nobody saw that coming...

It all works out when the Genius, THE One, The Messiah, TOTUS (Constitutional expert/Professor who just got his silly fucking ass spanked today ) knows that Iraq/Egypt is really Afghanistan...

And, IT MAY be one of our FIFTY SEVEN states...

Kate!,
WHAB

[ben ttech]

wow!!!

extended hatred for african americans, and the majority of middle class white americans they represent...


[ yes, they already represent all the poor white americans ]

[MadMoonMan]

Nazi DELETIVE EXPLETED bastards.
distorting the truth

die.

die

evil truth distorters.

or is it evil distortORS?

die
fucking nazi evil truth distorionists/ spits satan from hell fire bellows

defined as . not telling the truth?
snarl from hell fire
swear on your life or be condemned forever or both..

is this truly how it happened?

[MadMoonMan]

Iron doors open

munsters march out

and no fake mummy movie

real munsters march out of Eygyt