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Lrus007 wrote:
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Section Three: 14th Amendment

Section Three of the amendment, gave Congress the authority to bar public officials, who took an oath of allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, from holding office if they "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the Constitution. The intent was to prevent the president from allowing former leaders of the Confederacy to regain power within the U.S. government after securing a presidential pardon. It states that a two-thirds majority vote in Congress is required to allow public officials who had engaged in rebellion to regain the rights of American citizenship and hold government or military office.

It states that: "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."

so a shadow government is insurrection or even treason. we vote for our government....
I guess a shadow government is a foreign concept to those who have not lived with it, but the simplest way to put it (I did try to explain what it does in my previous post) is that they simply keep an eye on what the government is doing and speak out if they disagree, or offer an alternative view if they think there is a better way.

Shadow governments always act in the best interests of their country and voters (or they are supposed to). That's the whole point of a shadow government: to try to win over voters by providing checks and balances and alternative views on how to run the country.

They don't side with foreign powers (like Trump with Putin) or go against the constitution (like Trump not wanting to relinquish power in 2020). They don't foment revolt (like Trump on January 6), and they don't rebel against law and order (again, like Trump on January 6).

Personally, I think Trump committed treason when he tried to overturn the 2020 election. But that doesn't really have anything to do with shadow governments, so I'm just drawing a tangent to highlight the obvious irony (or hypocrisy – take your pick).
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Heres a graphical hint
I still don't get it. Trump isn't a Christian.
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what you dont get is the fundalimstist their

they got in bed with big money

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i do not want no shadow government

i want the government i vote for, this is the USA

you don't even know why she lost lol *clue they killed peanut...
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Elon Musk vows to 'nuke' those accusing him of ties to Russia: “I’m going to find out who’s making these accusations and nuke them,”
His response followed Democratic senators’ request to investigate claims of Musk’s alleged connections with Moscow, after numerous "Secret" pre election phone calls to Putin we're discovered.

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Lrus007 wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:55 pm
i do not want no shadow government

i want the government i vote for, this is the USA

you don't even know why she lost lol *clue they killed peanut...
From what I heard Nichols say, the "shadow government" will be similar to an "Honorable Doctorate". Unofficial without true merit title. I'm an honorable member of Theta Xi fraternity, because I bought them a keg of beer in 1983..
I think the purpose is to have an arsenal of politicians with these non official titles to go on CNN, NBC, etc and oppose any policy that Trump administration promotes. They of course will have the title displayed on the screen to gaslight the public into thinking that they actually hold a real position.
It's a version of the touting of 51 intelligence officers signing a letter that Hunter's Laptop was Russian Disinformation.

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Prawn Connery wrote:
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roller24 wrote:
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Why would the richest man in the world need anything? And why would he need to pander to Trump to get it?
But he GOT something, didn't he roller? And he DID pander to Trump.

Do rich people ever stop trying to get richer or more power, roller?
What exactly did he get?
his position seems more of an advisor than actual cabinet position.
The D.O.G.E appears to me a meme of a department, again more of an advisory commission. I guess we'll find that out in late January.
Any way, I've already answered my own question with the 3 videos from the 3 persons mentioned.

The crosses had little to do with Christianity, but more about persecution.
The leftists aren't satisfied with simply opposing their adversaries these days, instead they seem to stop at nothing to total destroy the person that finds themselves in their crosshairs.

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Lrus007 wrote:
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i do not want no shadow government

i want the government i vote for, this is the USA

you don't even know why she lost lol *clue they killed peanut...
You get the government you deserve. It's all good and well getting the guy you elected . . . until he starts trampling on YOUR rights. Then who will stick up for you?

I know why she lost. I had hope Trump wouldn't be returned, but I've never had illusions about it. This is what I wrote here on July 11:
Prawn Connery wrote:I predicted Trump's first win. I put my money where my mouth was and won bets. Of course, my bet was that HIllary wouldn't win – not that Trump would win. If Bernie was the elected nominee, I still would have won my bets – and I dare say he would have beaten Trump.

I didn't predict Biden's win. I thought Biden-Harris was a pretty weak ticket. I still don't think they "won" – I think Trump lost.

I'll be making the same prediction this time around. Glutten for punishment. I now think Biden-Harris is an even weaker ticket than last time.

I still hope Trump loses, but I wish the Democrats were smarter about beating him.

Admit it – this race shouldn't be that close. It's painful to watch.
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And even earlier on February 2 –
Prawn Connery wrote:The Democrats are going to lose this one for the same reason they lost in 2016. They can't see the writing on the wall.
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Good luck with your government. I know you're happy about it. The real shame is that all this divisive politics appears to be ripping the country apart. If the USA was more like MPG, maybe we could all talk shit about each other and disagree and then have a good laugh about it afterwards. Some of use are at completely opposite ends of the political spectrum, but at least we all have a certain amount of respect for each other (no matter what we say at the time). If we didn't, we wouldn't still be arguing with each other after almost 20 years . . .
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What exactly did he get?
Bit naive there roller. You think Musk did all this for nothing? For such a trigger-happy conspiracy theorist, you sure holster your gun when it comes to confirmation bias.
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You get the government you deserve. It's all good and well getting the guy you elected . . . until he starts trampling on YOUR rights. Then who will stick up for you?
the dem's have fucked us like a gimp for years.
a little payback would be nice.
then i live on the west coast. my vote don't count the dem's always win.
not into name calling ect. but who knows i might just be trolling your asses.
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