quit listening to dore couple years past,
fuckered lost it far as i was concerned.
but hearing him today actually lying prompted me to search 'jimmy dore sold out'
helped frame what im noticing with this radio program...
Jimmy Dore and the post left crowd are paid opposition
I remember like 3 or 4 years ago David Pakman said that he had been offered many times substantial amounts of money to turn his channel into a “Democrat bad” channel, where all he would do is talk about how bad the democrats are. We have heard stories of certain leftists being offered deals to do this. The intent is to confiscate a once well known and loved leftist and split the left apart. Ever since the fall of Bernie in 2020, the left has been stalled. We are left leaderless and without momentum. Some creators I believe saw this opportunity to go where the wind was blowing: the right. All these supposed leftists who spend 100% of their time attacking and splitting the left and virtue signaling to the right have seen their views and subscribers increase substantially. Those that haven’t have not. Be aware of the grifters.
https://www.reddit.com/r/seculartalk/co ... _are_paid/
radio show i listen to played a jimmy dore clip today
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radio show i listen to played a jimmy dore clip today
Dontknownomore8
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1y ago
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They all clearly have a formula. You can predict what they’re gonna say about everything and you also know the facts and questions they’ll avoid. They don’t even need to be paid by some right wing billionaire, “democrat bad” content is very popular on YouTube and requires little effort to produce.
I generally disagree with Kulinski but I respect him for sticking to his principles and not taking the money because he definitely had the opportunity. He had established the necessary setup to rake in millions as an “actually on the left guy”. He had access to Joe Rogan (I think going on Rogan is a requirement to start that grift) and left wing cred he can always refer back to when called out, but he decided not to go down that road.
TrippleTonyHawk
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1y ago
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True about Kyle, but he does regularly fall in love with the strategies of these people. Kind of annoying how he doesn't see through things like the Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang 2020 campaign or the big Force The Vote campaign or third-party voting as a strategy for what they are. It's all the same people pushing these things but Kyle always legitimized them (along with others, don't mean to single him out but this is a sub about him).
ohhellointerweb
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1y ago
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Edited 1y ago
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This is absolutely true. There are a few factors here:
there are definitely billionaire-backed psyops going on. Peter Thiel is a known funder of and fan of these kind of "I'm "left" but actually right" kind of videos because he believes it's a good disorientation tactic. He's not wrong, either: it's a known anti-socialist strategy intelligence agencies deployed. Sources below.
there exists a huge economic incentive to pander to right wing audiences. It's partially the byproduct of how algorithms are set up to favor outrage which keeps up views/clicks and partially the reality that most people who spend their time online are isolated young boys/men with little life prospects and are therefore attracted to extreme reactionary subcultures.
Dore plays up on these angles.
Thiel's funding:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04 ... ggest-bets
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/styl ... dcast.html
Anti-left intelligence strategies deployed by Thiel and his comrades:
https://www.openculture.com/2017/06/the ... -1985.html
sohrobby
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1y ago
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This is so on point. I’ve noticed a lot of these pundits who were once accurately termed leftist/progressive just totally pivot to all things left are bad and rarely if ever even attacking the right. It’s like they couldn’t turn down the attention they got from the MAGA heads and saw it as an opportunity to profit from the grift. In some cases it was just purely driven by ego because they loved the attention and head nodding they got from right-leaning folks. It’s sad really. Aside from Jimmy Dore, I’d put Russell Brand in that category also.
bustavius
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1y ago
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Not sure about the money, but Dore is a sad case. He’s so stuck on his positions that there’s no room for critical thinking - which was the thing that originally made him an unique voice.
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1y ago
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They all clearly have a formula. You can predict what they’re gonna say about everything and you also know the facts and questions they’ll avoid. They don’t even need to be paid by some right wing billionaire, “democrat bad” content is very popular on YouTube and requires little effort to produce.
I generally disagree with Kulinski but I respect him for sticking to his principles and not taking the money because he definitely had the opportunity. He had established the necessary setup to rake in millions as an “actually on the left guy”. He had access to Joe Rogan (I think going on Rogan is a requirement to start that grift) and left wing cred he can always refer back to when called out, but he decided not to go down that road.
TrippleTonyHawk
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1y ago
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True about Kyle, but he does regularly fall in love with the strategies of these people. Kind of annoying how he doesn't see through things like the Tulsi Gabbard and Andrew Yang 2020 campaign or the big Force The Vote campaign or third-party voting as a strategy for what they are. It's all the same people pushing these things but Kyle always legitimized them (along with others, don't mean to single him out but this is a sub about him).
ohhellointerweb
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1y ago
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Edited 1y ago
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This is absolutely true. There are a few factors here:
there are definitely billionaire-backed psyops going on. Peter Thiel is a known funder of and fan of these kind of "I'm "left" but actually right" kind of videos because he believes it's a good disorientation tactic. He's not wrong, either: it's a known anti-socialist strategy intelligence agencies deployed. Sources below.
there exists a huge economic incentive to pander to right wing audiences. It's partially the byproduct of how algorithms are set up to favor outrage which keeps up views/clicks and partially the reality that most people who spend their time online are isolated young boys/men with little life prospects and are therefore attracted to extreme reactionary subcultures.
Dore plays up on these angles.
Thiel's funding:
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/04 ... ggest-bets
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/02/styl ... dcast.html
Anti-left intelligence strategies deployed by Thiel and his comrades:
https://www.openculture.com/2017/06/the ... -1985.html
sohrobby
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1y ago
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This is so on point. I’ve noticed a lot of these pundits who were once accurately termed leftist/progressive just totally pivot to all things left are bad and rarely if ever even attacking the right. It’s like they couldn’t turn down the attention they got from the MAGA heads and saw it as an opportunity to profit from the grift. In some cases it was just purely driven by ego because they loved the attention and head nodding they got from right-leaning folks. It’s sad really. Aside from Jimmy Dore, I’d put Russell Brand in that category also.
bustavius
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1y ago
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Not sure about the money, but Dore is a sad case. He’s so stuck on his positions that there’s no room for critical thinking - which was the thing that originally made him an unique voice.
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