Israel Gaza discussion.

[dill786]

damn is this true, no help for you if you boycott Israel?

[rSin]

so after weve found the rapes and beheadings reports are sure pulp

the huge story is that half of the 'citizens of isreal who died died at the fire of idf soldiers trying to mow down gorillas...


witness reports of israelis who took them captive,
urged them to use the phone to call the police and military,

they wanted solders to fight,

just as in libya and syria,
the end report nevers reaches the publics conscious...

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damn is this true, no help for you if you boycott Israel?

Yes it is true in the US over half the states have laws to make it illegal to boycott Israel. One could end up in assfuck prison.

I mentioned it here:
viewtopic.php?p=187908#p187908

And here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-BDS_laws

As of 2021, 35 states have passed bills and executive orders designed to discourage boycotts of Israel.[4] Many of them have been passed with broad bipartisan support.[5] Most anti-BDS laws have taken one of two forms: contract-focused laws requiring government contractors to promise that they are not boycotting Israel; and investment-focused laws, mandating public investment funds to avoid entities boycotting Israel.[6] There has been debate over whether the laws violate the right to free speech and organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) have challenged many of them in court cases.[7]

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Josh Paul a State Department official who resigned last month to protest continued arms sales to Israel amid its bombardment of Gaza, writing in a viral letter that one-sided U.S. support for Israel is “shortsighted,” “destructive” and “contradictory.


Media reports say many others inside the State Department are equally frustrated with the U.S. role in the conflict. Paul tells Democracy Now! he tried to raise his concerns with his superiors but found “no appetite for that discussion” and that unlike all other U.S. arms sales that take humanitarian concerns into account, Israel gets a blank check. Paul says the overall message inside the Biden administration is: “Don’t question the policy because it’s coming from the top.”
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/3/ ... srael_gaza

What is this fucking hold that Israel has?
I understand foreign policy doesn't have morals or ethics, foreign policy doesn't have friends, foreign policy only cares about power.
Then this seems like bad foreign. It weakens the US. ??

[roller24]

Josh Paul a State Department official who resigned last month to protest continued arms sales to Israel amid its bombardment of Gaza, writing in a viral letter that one-sided U.S. support for Israel is “shortsighted,” “destructive” and “contradictory.


Media reports say many others inside the State Department are equally frustrated with the U.S. role in the conflict. Paul tells Democracy Now! he tried to raise his concerns with his superiors but found “no appetite for that discussion” and that unlike all other U.S. arms sales that take humanitarian concerns into account, Israel gets a blank check. Paul says the overall message inside the Biden administration is: “Don’t question the policy because it’s coming from the top.”
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/3/ ... srael_gaza

What is this fucking hold that Israel has?
I understand foreign policy doesn't have morals or ethics, foreign policy doesn't have friends, foreign policy only cares about power.
Then this seems like bad foreign. It weakens the US. ??

What is this fucking hold that Israel has? We are Israel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/com ... usisraeli/
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Why do so many US politicians have dual US/Israeli citizenship? At least 13/100 Senators, at least 27/435 House Reps, and many of The Presidents's cabinet.
Here is a list of US politicians who have dual US/Israeli citizenship. Note the head banking and policy advising positions.

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

Jack Lew – Chief of Staff to the President; Treasury Secretary

David Plouffe – Senior Advisor to the President

Danielle Borrin – Associate Director, Office of Public Engagement; Special Assistant to the Vice President

Gary Gensler – Chairman of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission

Dan Shapiro – Ambassador to Israel

Gene Sperling – Director National Economic Council

Mary Schapiro – Chairwoman of the Securities and Exchange Commission

Steven Simon – Head of Middle East/North Africa Desk at the National Security Council

Eric Lynn – Middle East Policy Advisor

PAST OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

Rahm Emanuel (2009-2010) Chief of Staff to the President

David Axelrod (2009-2011) Senior Advisor to the President

Elena Kagan (2009-2010) Solicitor General of the United States

Peter Orszag (2009-2010) Director of the Office of Management and Budget

Lawrence Summers (’09-’11) Director National Economic Council

Mona Sutphen (2009-2011) Deputy White House Chief of Staff

James B. Steinberg (’09-’11 ) Deputy Secretary of State

Dennis Ross (2009-2011 ) Special Assistant to the President, Senior Director for the Central Region to the Secretary of State

Ronald Klain (2009-2011) Chief of Staff to the Vice President

Jared Bernstein (2009-2011) Chief Economist and Economic Policy Advisor to the Vice President

Susan Sher (2009-2011) Chief of Staff to the First Lady

Lee Feinstein (2009) Campaign Foreign Policy Advisor

Mara Rudman (2009) Foreign Policy Advisor Sources: White House

112 CONGRESS (current)

THE US SENATE [13]

Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) Barbara Boxer (D-CA) Benjamin Cardin (D-MD) Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) Al Franken (D-MN) Herb Kohl (D-WI) Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) Joseph Lieberman (Independent-CT) Carl Levin (D-MI) Bernie Sanders (Independent-VT) Charles Schumer (D-NY) Ron Wyden (D-OR) Michael Bennet (D-CO)

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES [27]

Gary Ackerman (D-NY) Shelley Berkley (D-NV) Howard Berman (D-CA) Eric Cantor (R-VA) David Cicilline (D-RI) Stephen Cohen (D-TN) Susan Davis (D-CA) Ted Deutch (D-FL) Eliot Engel (D-NY) Bob Filner (D-CA) Barney Frank (D-MA) Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) Jane Harman (D-CA) Steve Israel (D-NY) Sander Levin (D-MI) Nita Lowey (D-NY) Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) Jared Polis (D-CO) Steve Rothman (D-NJ) Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) Allyson Schwartz (D-PA) Adam Schiff (D-CA) Brad Sherman (D-CA) Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) Henry Waxman (D-CA) Anthony Weiner (D-NY) John Yarmuth (D-KY)

And that's just the democrats! I'm sure the republicans are just as bad if not worse, but it seems harder to find information on. Here's another list: http://american3rdposition.com/?p=12767

Here's an explanation of how this used to not be allowed, then the law was changed, and also points out many big-name dual citizenship holders in the Bush and Clinton administrations: http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

Why is this allowed? It is not allowed for regular US citizens to have dual citizenship, is it?

I think this type of thing is allowed because "Israel first" Zionists essentially own our government, which is because the Rothschilds own the central banking system and have money creation powers and they promote Zionism. So you play by their rules, or you don't get big money access. This is why most industry monopolies are headed by Zionists. It's not a random chance thing that the tops of most all industries are super gung-ho about Israel. This is also why they get the most aid, and why they have the biggest lobbying groups.

And to be clear, I'm not talking about Jews, half of whom reject zionism. I'm talking about the ideological belief system, that says the Israeli government deserves to own Mt. Zion, aka that Palestine needs to be removed and regional security for Israel needs to be ensured in the middle east. Obama is a Zionist, Biden is a Zionist. Bush is a Zionist. So is Hillary, and Trump, as their AIPAC speeches showed quite clearly.

These big bankers need to stop being able to pull everyone's strings, but that won't stop until people realize their money creation abilities are based on legal narratives that come from false hopes and the false appearance of authority. The government should be able to create its own money, not borrow from a private bank in a debt-based money creation system where there will always, mathematically, be more debt owed than money exists, which gives them power over the government because they are the debt collectors.

The whole thing is an absurd farce to anyone who sees the truth of it.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

One more theory I was mocked for having

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Big Banks - big money - money as a power token for zionism.

Rather tenuous hypothesis that all those presidents are Zionist.

It begs the question why would all these people want Zionism personally. And It's just bad foreign policy. it reduces the US power. none of those prez were Jews. And the politicians that were Jews particularly my Senator Barbara Boxer I remember she was against Zionism. Fwiw I was unable to confirm Barbara Boxer held dual citizenship. She's only listed as at far right sites. But NOT In any of her biographies.


The best I could see there is the big Banks using money as a power token to coerce. But would it make Believers out of them?


 The AIPAC lobby is incredulously successful.

[roller24]

Ever read the Protocols of Zion?

[Butcher Bob]

...Zionist.
 The AIPAC lobby is incredulously successful.

You're not wrong there...got Israel over $6 billion in military funding last year. Their goal is to secure military funding, by supporting politicians that will put their agents in powerful positions...i.e. Biden/Blinken.

For context, Blinken addressing AIPAC this past spring...(this is where I got the $6 billion figure)...


...more context, once the Gaza thing kicked off...
Secretary Antony J. Blinken and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu After Their Meeting
OCTOBER 12, 2023
<video and transcript>
https://www.state.gov/secretary-antony- ... meeting-2/

His fukking grandfather was a Russian zionist that was largely responsible for convincing the US government to go along with the creation of Israel after WW II, when the government was leaning towards not supporting that...
"Blinken’s granddad Maurice Blinken was a Russian zionist & NY lawyer who was a key factor in gathering US govt. support for the ethnic cleansing & colonization of Palestine back in the 1940s."
https://twitter.com/DabSquad_Slank/stat ... 9456256458
(...which probably also explains Antony's penché for continued war in Ukraine.)

...a fact that Antony now touts...
Blinken invokes Jewish ancestry in address to grieving Israeli public
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... amas-gaza/

Americans can call for whatever measures they want our government to take...
...but at the end of the day, it will be Blinken and Netanyahu that will be making the decisions...
Anthony Blinken 3rd most influential Jew in the World, Zelensky dropped from the list
"Sam Altman, founder and CEO of OpenAI, tops the list of this year’s “50 Most Influential Jews,” published yearly by The Jerusalem Post. Altman is followed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. At number 3 is U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. Since September, and after the attack by Hamas and the subsequent revenge bombardment of Gaza, Netanyahu and Blinken may well have changed places in terms of true influence."
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/ ... -list.html

[dill786]

Ever read the Protocols of Zion?

they say it was written just to make the Jews look bad and no jew actually wrote it....

[dill786]

white house passes $14 billion dollar package for Israel.....