antifa diary...

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:25 am

always supported them of course
you fool dont even know your definitions

but i got the chance to just show up
a regular event
stand up to the facists advertised they would be there

most of these from what i read mostly are non violent
mabe a couple chests shoved but nothing serious

records are for breaking

the chest shoves and bear spray were liberally deployed
we had eye wash stations and plenty there to join so the line was good

then a formations of them went on attack
in formation they dropped their shields as they attacked

behind they picked up the shields and pressed them forward

we were still holding off the onslaght

and i was just a nobody
joe taking orders

as the attack neared i walked the line
said i wasnt going to hurt any of them who are down
think its a good idea blah blah blah

anywhere else the americans would have blown us to shit with artillery before there troop tried to advance
luck us were here at home...

a wave of fuckers with shields bent on stopping some drag queens preaching to children thier parents had brought them to learn how to be accepting others

more bear spray
baseball bat
guys think their gods word

they beat the first line into disolve
but the second line held

motherfuckers..

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:27 am

like i said im spot on with my mercy

id seen him burry an elbow into a girl away from the action
bastard

next time i walked by he was laying on his back
good work knocking him senseless

im a damn fair guy mostly all across the board

but have to admit

i stepped on his hand with all my weight
and ground it back and forth a few times

lucky for him he was down

had he been standing in front of me he'd have to be living with an eye or two put out

you pussy aint seen nothing yet
word...

whos next???

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:35 am

Aren't you, like, 103 years old these days? Good on you for having some fight left in you!

I'm glad the anti-fascists were also able to show you some "real" fascists for a change. Because your "Fascists Radar" that keeps ignoring Putin and his cronies is seriously damaged. For the longest time, I figured you didn't even know what the word "fascist" meant. I still have my doubts.

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:03 am

fascist

what would you call ukraine destroying all the monuments pointing out who liberated them from nazi germanys occupation???

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 4:13 am

rSin wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:03 am
fascist

what would you call ukraine destroying all the monuments pointing out who liberated them from nazi germanys occupation???

Are we talking about the same fascist "liberators" who are now illegally occupying Ukraine after invading it 18 months ago and continuing to kill its people?

And we wouldn't be talking about the same Russian leader who enriched all his friends for support, turning over state assets to oligarchs while his own people remained poor, would we?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement,[1][2][3] characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Sounds exactly like Putin to me. Every single one of those definitions.

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:42 pm

facist exist in degrees and while putins russia is inargueable authoritarian it doesn hold a candle to ukraine when it comes to fascism

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:50 am

rSin wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 16, 2023 1:42 pm
facist exist in degrees and while putins russia is inargueable authoritarian it doesn hold a candle to ukraine when it comes to fascism

How so?

Defintion:

dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy

"dictatorial leader"
Ukraine has democratic elections, Russia has a dictator (President-for-life Putin)

"centralized autocracy"
Ukraine has a parliament, Russia has a dictator

"militarism"
Russia has waged war in numerous countries since Putin came to power in 1999: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_b ... Federation
Ukraine has not, apart from supporting Macedonia against an insurgency in 2001

"forcible suppression of opposition"
Putin kills and jails his opponents and has declared himself President for life
Putin has also tried to kill and jail many Ukrainian opposition members who have not sided with him or Russia

"belief in a natural social hierarchy"
Russian oligarchs, anyone?

"subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation and race"
Why don't you go to Russia, Ben, and publicly denounce Putin to see what happens to you . . .

"strong regimentation of society and the economy"
What Putin says, goes.

I would say "nice try, no cigar" but that wasn't even a nice try.

Post by **roller24** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:55 am

Authoritarian and totalitarian, but not by common knowledge fascist.
Russia is a communist authority, and fascists are generally anti-communist.
Any authoritarian government will have a large degree of nationalism, compliance is largely based on civil patriotism.
I don't know why nationalism has been tagged to fascism as it's primary ideal, as it is also a primary necessity for almost any national authority.
Nazi's are also not fascist in the original since of being Nationalist Socialists.
I think Mussolini's Italy should be the benchmark of measuring fascism.
The defined Authoritarian states were sort of conflated during the cold war era. imo
When I think of fascism, I think of the binding of government with private industry through regulation to carry out the state's demands, with a regimented top down authority.

I also think that all the previous categorization is archaic and they all seem to have meshed into left right derogatoriness.
My observation see's almost all political ideology is based on Nationalism vs Globalism.
Globalism with all it's utopic vision, cannot succeed without full global cooperation. This in itself fosters extreme authoritarian tendencies. The entire population of earth must agree to adhere to one central authority. That authority is comprised of representatives from several federations, who are comprised of representatives from the member regions of said federations.
This sounds very democratic and it is structured in a democratic manner, but the democracy building today is an "Authoritarian Democracy".
You can see it all over the globe, as protests in many countries are occurring by a citizenry that sees authority ignoring their will and imposing what the elites deem best for the people.
No unipolar world order will allow this because the ultimate authority must be the global alliance, and if one state holds too much power, this diminishes the authority of the global body.
The US / UN is a prime example of a powerful state ignoring the global body and doing what is best for the state.
The best part is that the term "democracy" coupled with any rule is perceived as by the people for the people illusion of participation.

This is why you see nationalist leaders rising up in the most powerful countries.
Trump in the US
Putin in Russia
Farage in GB
They all know that a global order will sorely diminish their sphere of influence and sovereignty.

The banking system needs globalism, as the central fiat monetary system has run it's course and due to collapse.

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:57 am

Russia isn't communist, roller.

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:59 am

My point is that, if you are going to label anything or anyone "fascist" then by definition you cannot ignore Putin.