Prawn Connery wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 9:34 pm
So because RFK said it, it must be true, right?
So you think RFK Jr is lying eh?
Okay, critical thinking time then...let's evaluate the likeliness of his statement being accurate...
We know NATO has been a contention for Russia ever since the US violated it's agreement to not expand NATO after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. And this friction has been very evident as US continues to violate that agreement. And we know this history is the basis for Russian concern building up to the invasion...
How America’s NATO expansion obsession plays into the Ukraine crisis
Jan 27, 2022
It's not really a secret that US has been eyeballing Ukraine for membership all along, as evidenced by the pains the US government takes to filter it's scripted message...
Biden, Harris clean up Russia remarks, threaten severe consequences if Ukraine invaded
Jan 20, 2022
So when Harris says...
"And so we have affirmed, however — all of that being said — through these last couple of days, that this Alliance is strong — probably stronger than it was before; and — and that this Alliance has purpose and meaning founded on shared principles that are very much at play right now. And as I mentioned yesterday, if we think about those principles, one of the most important is about a mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity, which at its essence is what is at play in terms of Russia’s posture as it relates to Ukraine.
At stake is the NATO Alliance, in terms of our unity, joining together — through, sometimes, compromise; certainly always through collaboration — to be a unified voice, especially when these very founding principles of our relationship are being compromised, if not attacked."
"...the work that we have done collectively through the NATO Alliance to provide support for Ukraine."
"Let me start by saying I appreciate and admire President Zelenskyy’s desire to join NATO. And one of, again, the founding principles of NATO is that each country must have the ability — unimpaired, unimpeded — to determine their own future, both in terms of their form of government and, in this case, whether they desire to be a member of NATO."
"So I respect President Zelenskyy’s desire to be a member of NATO."
"NATO is a membership.
...
No one country can say “I want to be, and therefore I will be.” And no one country can say “You can’t be.” And isn’t that at the heart of the very issue we’re presented with in terms of Russia’s aggression, or stated aggression, toward Ukraine?"
"In fact, I told him [Zelenskyy] in our meeting, “The United States stands with you.” Because we do, as do this community [NATO] of Allies and partners."
Remarks by Vice President Harris in Press Gaggle
Feb 20, 2022
...just what exactly do
you think she's saying?
And when NATO says...
The NATO Secretary General and the Vice President discussed the serious crisis caused by Russia’s military build-up in and around Ukraine and NATO’s continued support for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Mr Stoltenberg stressed that NATO Allies are united in their efforts to pursue a diplomatic solution, while ensuring that NATO will protect and defend all Allies.
Secretary General meets US Vice President Kamala Harris
Feb 19, 2022
...just what exactly do
you think they're saying?
Even after the invasion Harris still has to be filtered...
Kamala Harris' Tweet Suggests Ukraine Part Of NATO, Outrage On Twitter
Mar 17, 2022
...or do you need to hear it from the horse's mouth...
Now, do I have to demote you even further?
Right when you been prwnd as Bob you just post a whole bunch of stuff like hamburgers & ketchup being thrown against the wall and see what sticks.
