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If you only see one viewpoint as propaganda, then you are controlled by propaganda.

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roller24 wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:25 pm
If you only see one viewpoint as propaganda, then you are controlled by propaganda.
Right.
Yup if you spread info that Ukraine is suppressing religious freedom as the only Viewpoint and not why they're closing churches you're only using one viewpoint. Impling one is being controlled by that propagand thus an asset of the propagandist.

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case in point.

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Ukraine has lost, according to MSNBC.

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Intrinsic wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:00 pm
By Redirecting/ignoring why the churches we're closed,. As Russian propagandist do. Is What makes it propaganda.
I didn't ignore why the churches were closed. I posted comments by a member of the Rada who said any crimes done were by individuals and were no reason to ban the entire church.

So far you have not listed any crimes by the church or individuals that would justify such a ban so lets examine one.
SBU detains former deacon of the UOC of the Moscow Patriarchate in Odessa

The former deacon sent people abroad under the guise of church missionaries who did not want to fight against Russia and serve in the Ukrainian army.
@Slavyangrad

OMG...detained for doing God's work. Someday this former deacon will be honoured as a hero like those who smuggled jews out of Nazi Germany or black slaves out of the US and into Canada.

The real reason for banning the church was because it was seen as too close to the Moscow patriarchy even though it declared it's independence and the Ukraine regime can't have any vestige of Russian society left in order to claim it's dominion over the eastern part of former Ukraine.
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The real reason for banning the church was because it was seen as too close to the Moscow patriarchy even though it declared it's independence and the Ukraine regime can't have any vestige of Russian society left in order to claim it's dominion over the eastern part of former Ukraine.
See you left the part out where Russia is currently trying to exterminate all of Ukraine. Ukraine did not close the churches until Russia full on invasion to exterminate ukrainians. Wasn't a political decision, it's a fight for survival. They were spying for Putin's invasion, the churches were a Russian intelligence operation.
I didn't ignore why the churches were closed
Tulsi Gabbard did. Hence a Russian asset.

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Intrinsic wrote:
Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:02 pm
The real reason for banning the church was because it was seen as too close to the Moscow patriarchy even though it declared it's independence and the Ukraine regime can't have any vestige of Russian society left in order to claim it's dominion over the eastern part of former Ukraine.
See you left the part out where Russia is currently trying to exterminate all of Ukraine. Ukraine did not close the churches until Russia full on invasion to exterminate ukrainians. Wasn't a political decision, it's a fight for survival. They were spying for Putin's invasion, the churches were a Russian intelligence operation.
I didn't ignore why the churches were closed
Tulsi Gabbard did. Hence a Russian asset.
I left that part out because it is a figment of your imagination brought on by absorbing Ukraine and US/UK propaganda. :facepalm:

Fewer civilians killed by Russia in almost 2 years compared to Israel in 1 month with US support. And how many civilians does the US kill in one of their operations? :rolleyes:
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left that part out because it is a figment of your imagination brought on by absorbing Ukraine and US/UK propaganda. :facepalm:
Ahh so it's just my imagination Russia didn't invade Ukraine they aren't near daily sending missiles into ukrainians civilian structures. it was Just My Imagination Running Away With Me. Thanks.
Fewer civilians killed by Russia in almost 2 years compared to Israel in 1 month with US support. And how many civilians does the US kill in one of their operations? 
And this has to do with Gabbard being a Russian asset how? Or is this trying to refute the Orthodox Church as a Russian asset?


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It is to do with your claim that Russia is trying to exterminate Ukrainians.

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The leftists have a tactic these days as claiming exaggerated absurdities as conclusive facts. This piece of shit, does that and then lectures people about fallacies. The hysterical irony is, he doesn't see it at all.
(absurdly dishonest accusations)
1. Russia wants to take over Europe, and Ukraine is just one of many to be conquered by Putin's global conquest.
2. Trump, Gabbard, Tucker, and Guiliani are all Russian assets intent on making sure Trump gets elected, not because that's what half of the US voted for, but because that's what Putin wants..
3. Trump is Hitler/Nazi/Dictator who has a plan to destroy democracy. Even though it was democracy that brought him to the White House.
4. People who vote for Trump are now extremists intent on bringing harm to democrats, queers, foreigners, & non-whites, as soon as Trump gives the order.
5. The greatest absurdity is that they still think themselves to be on the moral high ground.

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