UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Unmoderated except for TOU and security breaches.
User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma Monster
Karma Monster
Has bestowed Karma : 1362 times
Received Karma : 1015 times
Posts: 4462
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Butcher Bob »

Prawn Connery wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:30 pm
Butcher Bob wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:11 pm
Eh, maybe it's because of this...:dunno:...

You mean because of Russian propagander?
Umm, I'm pretty sure Hindustan Times is Indian. :confused:
But you go with whatever makes you feel better. :p

User avatar
Prawn Connery
MPG Founder
Karma Bhudda
Karma Bhudda
Has bestowed Karma : 482 times
Received Karma : 586 times
Posts: 2878
Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 pm

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Prawn Connery »

ben ttech wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:50 pm
wonder what your one liners will be when z flees to an island he bought skimming off western americans

wont be long now
chiseler...
You mean the one Putin owns?
Licensed to Krill

User avatar
Prawn Connery
MPG Founder
Karma Bhudda
Karma Bhudda
Has bestowed Karma : 482 times
Received Karma : 586 times
Posts: 2878
Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 pm

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Prawn Connery »

Butcher Bob wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:55 am
Prawn Connery wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:30 pm
Butcher Bob wrote:
Thu Sep 05, 2024 1:11 pm
Eh, maybe it's because of this...:dunno:...

You mean because of Russian propagander?
Umm, I'm pretty sure Hindustan Times is Indian. :confused:
But you go with whatever makes you feel better. :p
Yes it is.

Who is the world's biggest buyer of Russian oil right now?

India.

The HT is notoriously pro-Russian and always has been. So if you prefer your Russian propagander served with a side of papadums and mango chutney, then who am I to argue?
Licensed to Krill

User avatar
roller24
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 366 times
Received Karma : 526 times
Posts: 3696
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:14 pm
Contact:

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by roller24 »

It's also the I in BRICS so one would assume it's pro Rusky.
I don't dismiss it's validity, but I would look for collaboration, or better yet the original source.
I'd guess out of the sum total of all reports web wide, it's an even split on being valid, and another split on the valid stories being altered in context.
You can't even wholly trust the fact checker sites.

You can trust news these days less than you can trust India Cuisine! I haven't eaten that shit, since I did a job in an India eatery. YUK. We are leaving from 2 - 5, just leave the chicken setting on the work table while we are gone. Turn off the kitchen lights. There was an ecosystem evolving on that mess.

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma Monster
Karma Monster
Has bestowed Karma : 1362 times
Received Karma : 1015 times
Posts: 4462
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Butcher Bob »

Prawn Connery wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:39 am
Who is the world's biggest buyer of Russian oil right now?
Umm, wtf does that have to do with anything?
You do realize that not only does US still trade with Russia, US still runs a substantial trade deficit with them...
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
So by your logic, all US media is Russian propaganda. :roflmao:

User avatar
Prawn Connery
MPG Founder
Karma Bhudda
Karma Bhudda
Has bestowed Karma : 482 times
Received Karma : 586 times
Posts: 2878
Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 pm

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Prawn Connery »

Butcher Bob wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:04 pm
Prawn Connery wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:39 am
Who is the world's biggest buyer of Russian oil right now?
Umm, wtf does that have to do with anything?
You do realize that not only does US still trade with Russia, US still runs a substantial trade deficit with them...
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html
So by your logic, all US media is Russian propaganda. :roflmao:
As I said, the HT is notoriously pro-Russian. There are other YouTube channels that are notoriously pro-Ukrainian. If you are going to quote a source, then at least acknowledge it's bias. Some are more biased than others – indeed, you could argue that every source of information has some form of bias or another from whence it originates – however, there are some that maintain at least some sembleance of neutrality.

US-Russia trade has declined more than 93% from 2021 (before Ukraine invasion) to 2024. Any remaining trade (less than 7%) is just forward contracts being honoured.

You claim to be economically literate, so you know what those figures mean. 93% might as well be 100%, such is the abrupt halt in trade between the two. Next year it will likely be only 1-2% of 2022 trade. There are anti-Putin forces inside Russia I'm sure the US would only be too happy to trade with if it fomented the fall of a dictator.
Licensed to Krill

User avatar
Prawn Connery
MPG Founder
Karma Bhudda
Karma Bhudda
Has bestowed Karma : 482 times
Received Karma : 586 times
Posts: 2878
Joined: Wed May 20, 2009 9:10 pm

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Prawn Connery »

Butcher Bob wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:04 pm
Prawn Connery wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 3:39 am
So by your logic, all US media is Russian propaganda. :roflmao:
By my logic, those countries that have increased trade with Russia since the Ukraine war – instead of imposing sanctions – are obviously more pro-Russian than they are pro-US/Western Europe – otherwise they would be following the US/Western European directives.

I will list just a few of them for you, just so that you understand:

India
China
North Korea

If you care to do some reasearch, you might also find this pro-Russian list, with India firmly at the top, along with China:
In 2023, Russia unveiled a Eurasianist, anti-Western foreign policy strategy in a document titled "The Concept of the Foreign Policy of the Russian Federation" approved by Vladimir Putin. The document defines Russia as a "unique country-civilization and a vast Eurasian and Euro-Pacific power" that seeks to create a "Greater Eurasian Partnership" by pursuing close relations with China, India, countries of the Islamic World and rest of the Global South (Latin America and Southern Africa). The policy identifies United States and other Anglo-Saxon countries as "the main inspirer, organizer and executor of the aggressive anti-Russian policy of the collective West" and seeks the end of American dominance in the international scene.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_r ... _of_Russia
Licensed to Krill

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma Monster
Karma Monster
Has bestowed Karma : 1362 times
Received Karma : 1015 times
Posts: 4462
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Butcher Bob »

You would think instead of arguing the perceived quality of the source, a "journalist" such as yourself would know to counter the information.
But I guess not. :p

And seems US has had a trade drop off with China as well...



...at least US exports anyways. And while he doesn't know why that is, I'm willing to bet it is mostly those canceled grain contracts. Gee, wonder where they're getting that grain from? :whistle:

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma Monster
Karma Monster
Has bestowed Karma : 1362 times
Received Karma : 1015 times
Posts: 4462
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by Butcher Bob »

Looks like US has decided to bomb residential areas in Moscow (as well as in other towns)...




Looks like Antony is getting worried aboot job security...
...getting ready to ramp up not only Russia, but Iran too...



Wait what?...he's mad at Iran for selling arms to Russia...
...while US sells arms to Ukraine? :confused:
Pot, kettle...kettle, pot. :p

User avatar
dill786
Karma Shaman
Karma Shaman
Custom Title: memento mori
Has bestowed Karma : 1120 times
Received Karma : 858 times
Posts: 1772
Joined: Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:45 am

UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Post by dill786 »

So another $700 million from the US
and another $600 million from the UK to zelensky
Kuchisabishii

Post Reply