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roller24 wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 3:31 pm
we've been doing circles with this for years. No sense being redundant.
You are correct.

And yet, Ukraine is still fighting Russia after three years.

Zelensky still has majority support amongst his people, despite the war, despite martial law delaying elections.

What does that tell you, roller? That the so-called "US coup" could not have happened (even if it was a "US" coup – which it wasn't) without the support of the majority of people in Ukraine.

The only Ukrainians who do not support Ukrainian independence are some native Russian speakers in the east – and not all of them support Russia, otherwise there wouldn't be so much partisan guerilla warfare going on in Russian-occupied parts of Ukraine.

IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER what you or I think: Ukraine fights, therefore it is.

With apologies to Descartes: "I think, therefore I am."

Do you not understand the simple premise that if Ukraine wanted to be aligned with Russia, Ukraine wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail to expel Russian troops right now?

And that is why you are wrong. Because the people of Ukraine tell you – and others – that you are wrong, simply by fighting and not giving in to Putin.
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By "Europe" do you mean "Russia"? :rolleyes:

This is why you should watch the source material if you are going to comment...
...because otherwise your ignorance just makes you look stupid. :winky:


Mearsheimer has been wrong about just about everything he has ever said.

But evidently you're having trouble sourcing an example? :dunno:
Should I dig out the 'dunce' hat for not doing your homework? :p


...the so-called "US coup"...(even if it was a "US" coup – which it wasn't)...

<heavy sigh> :facepalm:
The "US coup" was the Dems thwarting Biden during the election.
You are discussing the Ukraine, or "Maidan Coup".
When exactly did that happen? :whistle:
Knowing that date, why do you think Biden gave open pardons back to January 2014 for his family members? :innocent:




I gotta think many of the players have not given full consideration to their situation...



...I mean just considering the numbers...







It would certainly appear that Ukraine AND the EU are fuk'd without US:...just saying. :dunno:

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Admit it, Bob – my post went straight over your head. Because everyone else here seems to know what I'm talking about except you.

You don't do irony, do you Bob? :rolleyes:
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Representatives from 32 NATO countries met to discuss Ukraine security and DID NOT INVITE THE USA.

The United States was just benched for colluding with the enemy.

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Zel does not have majority support the people want this dictator out.
Just because I can't spell misanthrope doesn't mean I'm completely stupid.

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For years one of the most corrupt countrys in the world. Reason the democrats laundered money back to them through Ukraine.
Just because I can't spell misanthrope doesn't mean I'm completely stupid.

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this video by gonzalo lira who waas killed in a ukranian prison, explains really well, exactly what went down just before the russians invaded, if you have a spare hour this is really good watch and will explain lots of stuff you didnt even probarley know about this conflict, RIP gonzalo.

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Lira was a piece of shit misogynist who moved to Ukraine to prey on poor women. He died of pneumonia in a prison hospital in Ukraine because he was a dumb fuck who denied the Bucha massacre and spread Russian propaganda – incredibly (and incredibly stupidly) whilst still living in Ukraine.

No sympathy. Just another Darwin Award.
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We've aired this video before.

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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/11/report-ukraine-agrees-to-30-day-ceasefire-now-attention-turns-to-moscow/ wrote:Ukraine has agreed to an immediate 30-day ceasefire negotiated by the United States if Russia also accepts the plan, officials announced Tuesday.

After Ukrainian representatives met with U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, they “expressed readiness to accept the US proposal to enact an immediate, interim 30-day ceasefire, which can be extended by mutual agreement of the parties, and which is subject to acceptance and concurrent implementation by the Russian Federation,” Ukraine’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs said in a joint statement with the U.S. Department of State:
Maybe this will happen and the bloodshed will slow.

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