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Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 pm
by mistergrafik
*SKKKKREEEEEEEEETTTTCHHHHHKKKKrkrkrrkrkHHGGG ARGHHH***

Fuck! I just scraped my new spaceships rims on the curb...

Hey there - MPG :smoke:

How do you say we make a sub irrigated bin out of a couple nutrient bottles, a knifes and a trashcan?

No power tools needed for this hippy sipper to throw you 10 LBS+ per plant :smoke:
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Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:21 pm
by ripper5
Ten pounds per plant would be awesome to see. :volcano:

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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:05 pm
by mistergrafik
ripper5 wrote:Ten pounds per plant would be awesome to see. :volcano:
Ah man I was going to hold back this year and just do some sunflowers :smoke:

Maybe we throw this one in a Hippy Sipper?
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:15 pm
by mistergrafik
Ok so let's get into it.'

You can use empty 2 litre bottles also but for this here whammy I'm using my own source of ChOnkY perlite.
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Rule #1 - The soil media, preferably inert, has to be touchin the bottom where the reservoir will be feeding the ruts by about 25-30%

Rule #2 - You need a channel that passes most of the medium and drops the water/feed direct into the res. Many people use PVC pipe but since we are broke motherfuckers I will show you how to use your brain and a broomstick.

So here you will see I layout my nutrient bottles in a 3 point fashion which will create pockets for my wicks. This helps visualize the function.
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Now with this layout we grab the knife
Put the knife to the wall - see next pic for alignment
Put the knife to the wall - see next pic for alignment
This is to create an air-pocket for the ruts and also drainage for overflow.
It is important to align it BETWEEN your wicks.
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Now leter havit!
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I haven't drank Coffee for two days so I'm going to take a break before I explode into SATAN HISSELF!

After you cut holes between each wick placement go wash it!
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Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:25 pm
by ripper5
My bad! Sunflowers are cool :lurk:

Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:44 pm
by mistergrafik
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:46 pm
by mistergrafik
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Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:47 pm
by mistergrafik
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Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:49 pm
by mistergrafik
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:54 pm
by mistergrafik
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I don't need the extra stress mane.

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 12:59 pm
by Intrinsic
umm what am I looking at other than the sunflower, a thumb and a couple fingers poking up through the soil, amongst the rocks?

Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:03 pm
by mistergrafik
Hey there mi compa -

If you see the two bottles stacked above the hole which the broom left:
We fill around that with soil creating another pocket all the way to the surface.
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The bottles are removed and filled with perlite and topped with river rock / beach rock
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I add the fingers I made and an arrow also.

This is the indication for where to pour the water to fill the resivour as
we created a channel that passes the medium and goes straight to the base of the bin.

The holes we made you can see drain out the excess agua.

It's important to fill the perlite up to those holes and cover em a bit *
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:06 pm
by mistergrafik
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:07 pm
by Intrinsic
ta bien

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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:15 pm
by mistergrafik
Intrinsic wrote:ta bien
Gracias -

I make hands for most of my plants.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 1:17 pm
by mistergrafik
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 9:20 pm
by WhiteHotAfterburner
mistergrafik wrote:
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I don't need the extra stress mane.
Interesting work, Mister G! :tup:

Why no Cannabis in the bin, though?

:puffpass:,
WHAB

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 7:01 am
by deran
a few years ago, i became crazy, as i sprouted an automatic strain, actually a whole pack , it was something Afghani and i cant even remember the breeder, i got them for free at the canna fest in Prague , you know the ganja/growing fair, an awesome come together party for us Europeans, and as most know, the ganja "crews" are only a few, and you can talk directly to the breeders, and they open their eyes very wide when you tell em your user name from the forums, nd they remember you, thats a cool feeling, family like ..

anyways, im sue you are familiar with the air-pots , you know those plastic pointed and hole drilled pots, that you have to roll and to insert the bottom, to make a "container" for the substrate, as you can use anything you choose

well i found out, that automatics have this main tap root, an bc its autos, you have to make so much room for the main tap root, as you can, bc only then you will get most out of the genetics, as soon as the main tap root gets stressed and or slowed down, for example due to re-potting, which you should also avoid, the growth / yield , slows down.
its best to sprout automatics directly into their final big pot, and not doing any transplanting or such things

so i thought a bit an counted one plus one and got the best return !

i took 2 air pots (each about 25 or so liters) and stacked em one upon another, so i made one pot out of twp pots, it was double the hight and hold place for a whole bag of grow mix 50 liters

so i stacked also some dirt, the bottom got the stronger nuted all mix, with en ec of 1.8 , i put 25 liters of it into the bottom, and topped up the rest with light mix ec of 1,2 or 1,3 , my reasoning was, that when the plant grows and the main tap root hits the botton, the all mix would help in boosting more growth and yield

i sprouted the seed directly within those double height air-pots and thought of ideas like stacking even more together, it would be easy to form a pot the size of 100 liters for the roots, but that would be something only for big outdoor plants

anyways i choose only 2 seeds of the 5 pack, and had them in those double air-pots and they grew rly well, considering their location on a nearly north facing terrace at 52 degrees north, in the end each plant delivered only 25 grams and the high wasnt that strong nor that yummy, it was a guerrilla situation, i mean i didnt had two water the pots, the rain was taking care of it

i didnt had any other plants or someting that i could make some observations

in the end it as all smoked up within a week or so lol

just that as an idea, if you happen to cross routes with air-pots

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:41 am
by mistergrafik
Hey Deran,

Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it honestly.

I have been looking at Air Pots - Funny enough inspired when I saw Ben's posting here 'POTPORN'

As I knew of these before they didn't interest me much; I saw a youtube video in there where they created these giant channels with them instead of conventionally wrapping them around the included base.

For the autoflower, and me - I have grown to like the timetable. As in like a game of chess

Thank you for ur response mi compa. Just ordered a few Smart Pots ~

Sippin' With Grafik : 30 Gallon Sub Irrigated Bins

Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 10:49 am
by mistergrafik
WhiteHotAfterburner wrote: Interesting work, Mister G! :tup:

Why no Cannabis in the bin, though?

:puffpass:,
WHAB
Thank you White Hot ~

If I put one of my plants in the bin I would get in trouble. Like Jack in the Bean Stalk ~ Some type of beacon for aliens to fuel their ship.

Maybe when I get a piece of land and no neighbors :twisted:

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Posted: Thu May 13, 2021 11:41 am
by mistergrafik
Still haven't fed er yet.. Probably another week until I will fill up the res for the first time.

Did you know; massive variety of sunflower have the ability to grow a taproot nearly 4 feet downward?

Found some holes but... Not trippin on any pests :smoke:
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Posted: Sun May 16, 2021 5:58 pm
by mistergrafik
Fed her this mornin' ...

I just be throwing my kitchen scraps in there as we go; don't judge me
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:49 pm
by mistergrafik
Fed her this mornin'. I let her dry up a bit too much before soakin' the res again you can see some curls..
Anyways, She's eye level now.. can't see the top;

The holes are from birds landing on it eating lil' leaf hoppers and other bugs.

Their beaks and feet leave lil holes ~
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 9:54 pm
by ripper5
Thems some big leaves

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:02 pm
by mistergrafik
Thank u my bro ~

I didn't transplant this one real good or early so I think we may not get as much vertical as I was shooting for.. Oh well, maybe next time.

I pay too much attention to the leaves.. I love me some big leaves, it's like my thing..
But pest also like big leaves too! I'm glad for the birds and also been having these ladybugs come about recently. Really nice paint jobs on their shells ~

Candy Coated :
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:17 pm
by ripper5
That's getting to be a lot of plant for the pot it's in but that's the goal, correct?

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:48 pm
by mistergrafik
ripper5 wrote:That's getting to be a lot of plant for the pot it's in but that's the goal, correct?
I agree ~

Yes correct good sir that is the goal. Last year was my biggest at 18' at 16" head in a container 1/3 this size. These are seed from that head. Also that container last year was not sub-irrigated ...

So I tripled it up and added some good ole' canna-innovation ~ now hopeful for a big dawg again

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:51 pm
by mistergrafik
The sunflower has the ability to cast taproot nearly 4' downward in healthy soil.

So this is why I attempt to skew the taproot with the chunky perlite base, to act as an air pruner while also feeding the lateral roots (I am hoping it made). But if you notice in my transplanting post the roots were already circling that smaller pot which is not what I wanted to see.. Rather few roots and the larger tap which would continue downward. Went ahead anyways and hopeing it shot to the base of the large bin..

From the looks of the growth it is working OK.. Not the best though.

This is what I do for mother plants, with perlite base, to avoid getting rootbound sans sub irrigation ~

Hope ur having a good weekend

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Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 10:59 pm
by ripper5
Well damn. Excited to see how it turns out :popcorn:

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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:24 pm
by mistergrafik
ripper5 wrote:Well damn. Excited to see how it turns out :popcorn:
Hope everyne has a good weekend :smoke:
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Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 12:26 pm
by mistergrafik
Was being dumb and gave it the runoff last week.. Bit of curl and unruly petals but took it like a champ for the most part.

Nice n' full

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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:24 pm
by roller24
I gotta hand it to you, pretty impressive.

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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:35 am
by Mister Grafik
roller24 wrote:
Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:24 pm
I gotta hand it to you, pretty impressive.
Although life got in the way of the height of this years sunflowers..

f7's
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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:40 pm
by anu
i feel better now about the giant bag of perlite i bought last year,i was ready an hour ago to either start a movement against plastic pot makers who don't make enuff holes in the bottom(is that just{planned obso,
thank you Grafik i'm gonna start many sunflowers indoors next year,all of my camo-fence was eaten by slugs before it got going,i had plenty of time to start more and i didn't cuz i'm fkn lazy, the landlord was here yesterday and didn't even check out my chicken area... and thanks for confi
rming some auto info.

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Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 2:01 pm
by Mister Grafik
Hey there Anu ~

A big bag of perlite will last quite some time. Note: you can put a layer in the bottome of pots and this will help air prune lower roots as they try to reach out of those holes. Preventing/prolonging a plant becoming rootbound. Coco coir it won't matter all that much but I will do this anyways. Plants love to engulf coco without much bondage.

I'm glad you found something useful. Hopefully most of the pics loaded. I can't see if I posted the sunflower from the solo cup or not, followed by the transplant. Would be cool if you do some sunflowers but really, you canplant most nutrient loving plants in a sip (Sub Irrigated Planter).

In my opinion Sub irrigation is pretty neat. Hard to beat too. Maybe next..
You can use any container really as long as it's not see through.

For example I would split a 30 gallon tote with the center divider being perlite (just like the channel I used in this trash bin). 15 gallons of my soil mix on each side and two auto flowers. I've been trying a few different things out but far from confident enough to share. Working on something I call 'eight-trays'.

Closing in on getting some new lights and finishing a few loose ends and I'll probably post some other bins in here.

Thanks for commenting ~

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