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Janet Yellen - Secretary of the Treasury

2014 - 2018 ... Chair of the Federal Reserve
2010 - 2014 ... Vice chair of the Federal Reserve
2004 - 2010 ... President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
1997 - 1999 ... Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under President Bill Clinton
1994 - 1997 ... Federal Reserve Board Governor

Following her appointment to the Federal Reserve in 2004, she spoke publicly and in meetings of the Fed's monetary policy committee, about her concern about the potential consequences of the boom in housing prices.[22] However, Yellen did not lead the San Francisco Fed to "move to check [the] increasingly indiscriminate lending" of Countrywide Financial, the largest lender in the U.S.[23]

In a 2005 speech in San Francisco, Yellen argued against deflating the housing bubble because "arguments against trying to deflate a bubble outweigh those in favor of it" and predicted that the housing bubble "could be large enough to feel like a good-sized bump in the road, but the economy would likely be able to absorb the shock."[24]

On April 28, 2010, President Obama nominated Yellen...as vice-chair of the Federal Reserve...
Yellen simultaneously began a 14-year term as a member of the Federal Reserve Board that will expire on January 31, 2024.

...while Yellen was chair of the Federal Reserve...Yellen began the process of reversing some of the policies that had been enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis of 2008.

On June 27, 2017, Yellen generated controversy when she stated that she did not expect another financial crisis "in our lifetime."

Yellen was one of the signees of a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

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Adewale "Wally" Adeyemo - Deputy Secretary of the Treasury

2019 - present ... first president of the Obama Foundation

...worked as the chief negotiator for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

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Neera Tanden - Director of the Office of Management and Budget

She is the president of the Center for American Progress...where she has served in different capacities since 2003.

Tanden has worked on several Democratic presidential campaigns, including those of Michael Dukakis in 1988, Bill Clinton in 1992, and Barack Obama in 2008. Tanden advised Hillary Clinton's successful 2016 primary campaign and unsuccessful 2016 general election campaign. She was also a senior staffer on Clinton's unsuccessful campaign for the 2008 Democratic nomination. During the Obama administration, Tanden helped draft the Affordable Care Act.

She has been described as one of the "key architects" of the Affordable Care Act.

In 2003, Tanden had a central role in the founding of the Center for American Progress (CAP).
In October 2011, Tanden succeeded John Podesta as CAP's president and CEO.

In 2018, reports emerged that Tanden had revealed the first name of a CAP employee complaining of sexual harassment.

She is regarded as a loyalist and confidante of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

...she opposes single-payer healthcare, including Medicare for All proposals.

Tanden has been a vocal critic of U.S. Senator and former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, his policy proposals, and his supporters.

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Cecilia Rouse - Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

Rouse served as a member of President Barack Obama's Council of Economic Advisers from 2009 to 2011. Prior to serving in the Obama Administration, Rouse served in the National Economic Council under President Bill Clinton from 1998 to 1999.

She is...a director of the T. Rowe Price Equity Mutual Funds and an Advisory Board Member of the T. Rowe Price Fixed Income Mutual Funds.

Rouse signed a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

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Intrinsic wrote:Biden's biggest blunder is not being Donald J Trump. Right?

The current economic collapse is because of Obama? Not Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic.. Huh! I Did not know.

Antony Blinken - Secretary of State

2015 - 2017 ... Deputy Secretary of State
2013 - 2015 ... Deputy National Security Adviser
2009 - 2013 ... Deputy Assistant to the President and National Security Advisor to the Vice President.
2008 - 2009 ... Obama–Biden presidential transition team
2002 - 2008 ... Democratic Staff Director of the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
1999 - 2001 ... Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for European and Canadian Affairs
1994 - 1998 ... Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for Strategic Planning and NSC Senior Director for Speechwriting

He supported the U.S.–led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

From 2009 to 2013...he helped craft U.S. policy on Afghanistan, Pakistan...

A 2013 profile described him as "[o]ne of the government's key players in drafting Syria policy", for which he served as a public face.

Blinken was influential in formulating the Obama administration's response to the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation in the aftermath of the 2014 Ukrainian revolution.

Blinken supported the 2011 military intervention in Libya and the supply of weapons to Syrian rebels.

In April 2015, Blinken voiced support for the Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen.

Blinken worked with Biden on requests for American money to replenish Israel's arsenal of Iron Dome interceptor missiles during the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.

In 2017, Blinken co-founded WestExec Advisors, a political strategy advising firm, with Michèle Flournoy... WestExec's clients have included Google's Jigsaw, Israeli artificial-intelligence company Windward, and ...includes "the defense industry, private equity firms, and hedge funds". In an interview with The Intercept, Flournoy described WestExec's role as facilitating relationships between Silicon Valley firms and the Department of Defense and law enforcement...

Blinken is also a partner of private equity firm Pine Island Capital Partners, a strategic partner of WestExec. Pine Island's chairman is John Thain...

Blinken is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

On June 17, 2020, Blinken said that Biden "would not tie military assistance to Israel to things like annexation or other decisions by the Israeli government with which we might disagree."

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Avril Haines - Director of National Intelligence

2015 - 2017 ... Deputy National Security Advisor
2013 - 2015 ... Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency
2010 - 2013 ... White House Counsel as Deputy Assistant to the President and Deputy Counsel to the President for National Security Affairs at the White House.
2008 - 2010 ... worked for the State Department as the assistant legal adviser for treaty affairs
2007 - 2008 ... worked for the United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations as Deputy Chief Counsel for the Majority Senate Democrats (under then-chairman Joe Biden).
2003 - 2006 ... worked in the Office of the Legal Adviser of the Department of State, first in the Office of Treaty Affairs and then in the Office of Political Military Affairs.

In 2015 Haines was tasked with determining whether CIA personnel involved in the hacking of the computers of Senate staffers who were authoring the Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture would be disciplined. Haines chose not to discipline them, overruling the CIA Inspector General.

During her years in Obama White House, Haines played a significant role working closely with John Brennan in determining administration policy on "targeted killings" by drones. The ACLU strongly criticized the Obama policy on drone killings as failing to meet international human rights norms.

Haines has consulted for Palantir Technologies, and was an employee of WestExec Advisors. In late June 2020, shortly after taking on the role of overseeing foreign policy and national security considerations for the Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign transition team, references to Palantir and other corporations for which she had worked were abruptly removed from her resume as posted on the website of the Brookings Institution...

In 2018, Haines was an outspoken supporter of President Donald Trump's controversial nomination of Gina Haspel to serve as CIA director. While not commenting on Haspel's record, she praised her knowledge of the agency and intelligence, a position hailed by the White House as it promoted Haspel's confirmation. Haspel was reportedly involved in the operations of CIA secret black site torture sites in 2002 and 2003. Haspel also has admitted her role in helping destroy videotapes of torture by CIA interrogators.

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Jake Sullivan - National Security Advisor

...Sullivan worked as chief counsel to Senator Amy Klobuchar, who connected him to Clinton.

In 2008, Sullivan was originally an advisor to Hillary Clinton during the primary cycle, and then to Barack Obama during the general election campaign. He prepared Clinton and Obama for debates. When Clinton became Secretary of State, Sullivan joined as her deputy chief of staff and Director of Policy Planning, and he travelled with her to 112 countries.

He became then–Vice President Biden's top security aide in February 2013 after Clinton stepped down as Secretary of State. In those posts, he played a role in shaping U.S. foreign policy towards Libya, Syria, and Myanmar.

Sullivan was the chief foreign policy adviser to Hillary Clinton.

Sullivan was prominent in many of the Podesta emails released by WikiLeaks during the 2016 US presidential election, including Sullivan questioning if Democratic primary candidate Martin O'Malley's 100% clean energy by 2050 plan was "realistic."

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Butcher Bob wrote:

Intrinsic wrote:Biden's biggest blunder is not being Donald J Trump. Right?

The current economic collapse is because of Obama? Not Trump's mismanagement of the pandemic.. Huh! I Did not know.

I know you're being sarcastic, but it is true...Obama's handling of the last financial crisis created the policy, laws, and regulations that are responsible for our current collapse. The signal came in September last year, when the Fed started pumping billions into the banks' overnight EFTs. Sure, the pandemic has exasperated things, but the collapse started well before covid.

Intrinsic wrote:Okay, then by that logic the crash started long before the black socialist obama's policies or any government legislation.

John Kerry - U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate

Kerry signed the Paris Agreement on climate change on behalf of the United States.

As Lieutenant Governor of Massachusetts... He was also active on environmental issues, including combating acid rain.

In July 1997, Kerry joined his Senate colleagues in voting against ratification of the Kyoto Treaty on global warming without greenhouse gas emissions limits on nations deemed developing, including India and China. Since then, Kerry has attacked President Bush, charging him with opposition to international efforts to combat global warming.

On November 11, 2016, Kerry became the first Secretary of State and highest-ranking U.S. official to date to visit Antarctica. Kerry spent two days on the continent meeting with researchers and staying overnight at McMurdo Station.

In 1994, Kerry led opposition to continued funding for the Integral Fast Reactor, which resulting in the end of funding for the project. However, in light of increasing concerns regarding climate change, in 2017 Kerry reversed his position on nuclear power, saying "Given this challenge we face today, and given the progress of fourth generation nuclear: go for it. No other alternative, zero emissions."

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Climate Activists Want Biden To Bar Appointees With Fossil Fuel Ties

Biden faced backlash this week after naming Louisiana Rep. Cedric Richmond to lead the Office of Public Engagement.

Varshini Prakash, executive director of the Sunrise Movement, said it "feels like a betrayal" because Richmond "has taken more donations from the fossil fuel industry during his Congressional career than nearly any other Democrat."

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Cedric Richmond - Senior Advisor to the President and Director of the Office of Public Liaison

Richmond was one of a few Democrats who voted to authorize the Keystone XL pipeline. He is the fifth-biggest recipient of money from fossil fuel donors among House Democrats. The League of Conservation Voters gave him one of the lowest ratings for any Democrat in Congress.

Richmond was the first candidate in the 2010 elections to have President Barack Obama appear in a television ad on his behalf.

Richmond's (2020) campaign received almost $113,000 from the oil and gas sector, which donated more than any other sector to his campaign.

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U.S. green groups urge Biden to shun cabinet picks with oil ties

Separately, Greenpeace and 75 other climate and environmental justice groups on Monday had issued a statement urging Biden not to select Ernest Moniz, who served as energy secretary under President Barack Obama, for his cabinet.

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Ernest Moniz - potential Secretary of Energy

2013 - 2017 ... Secretary of Energy
1997 - 2001 ... Under Secretary of Energy
1995 - 1997 ... Associate Director for Science in the Office of Science and Technology Policy in the Executive Office of the President of the United States

Before his appointment as Secretary of Energy, Moniz served in a variety of advisory capacities, including at BP, General Electric, and the King Abdullah Petroleum Studies and Research Center in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.

Moniz has been criticized by environmentalists for his ties to the oil and gas industries.

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Why Is Joe Biden Considering an Anti–Green New Dealer for Energy Secretary?

...Michael McCabe is part of the Biden transition team’s agency review for the Environmental Protection Agency. McCabe, after serving in Clinton’s EPA, started managing DuPont’s communications department, otherwise known as, defending toxic chemicals. He used his intimate knowledge of — and access to — EPA documents to help DuPont sanitize the reputation of a chemical responsible for poisoning people’s drinking water and causing birth defects in children. Later, George W. Bush’s EPA fined DuPont over McCabe’s deceptions.

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Michael McCabe - volunteer member of the Joe Biden presidential transition Agency Review Team to support transition efforts related to the United States Environmental Protection Agency

McCabe started a consulting company, McCabe & Associates LLC, in 1996, registered in Delaware. From 2003 til at least 2006, McCabe worked as a consultant for DuPont, consulting for the company during an EPA investigation into the chemical PFOA. In 2007, Rob Bilott sued DuPont over PFOA contamination and McCabe was deposed in court by Bilott because of McCabe's previous work with DuPont.

Environmental activist Erin Brockovich called on Biden to "do the right thing" by creating an EPA transition team based on science, and not from the guidance of an "industry insider."

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The Problem With Putting a BlackRock Alum in Charge of Greening the Economy
Brian Deese, expected to head the Biden administration’s National Economic Council, is a longtime adherent of a disastrous energy strategy.

This week, the Biden campaign is expected to announce officially that it’s tapped former Obama adviser and current BlackRock executive Brian Deese to head the National Economic Council.

New York Communities for Change and the Sunrise Movement protested the rumors of Deese’s appointment outside the company’s Manhattan headquarters last week.

Deese...as deputy and then acting director of the Office of Management...preached “fiscal discipline”...championed the Trans-Pacific Partnership...During his two years as Obama’s climate adviser, Deese defended Arctic drilling...

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Brian Deese - Director of the National Economic Council

2017 - present ... Global Head of Sustainable Investing at BlackRock
2015 - 2017 ... Senior Advisor to the President
2013 - 2015 ... Deputy Director of the Office of Management and Budget (briefly served as the acting director in summer 2014)
2011 - 2013 ... Deputy Director of the NEC
2009 - 2011 ... Special Assistant to the President for economic policy, serving in the National Economic Council (NEC)
Following the 2008 presidential election, he served as a member of the Economic Policy Working Group for the presidential transition.
2008 ... work as an economic advisor to the Barack Obama 2008 presidential campaign.
2008 ... joined Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign as her economic policy director.
prior ... worked as a senior policy analyst for economic policy at the Center for American Progress.

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CODEPINK joins protest against BlackRock’s bid for top Biden appointments

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Butcher Bob wrote:..

No...I'm referring specifically to what we learned from the Great Depression, that the functions of commercial banking should be seperated from investment banking, which is why the Glass/Steagall Act was enacted...a concept you apparently can't grasp no matter how many times it comes up in our discussions. Clinton repealed that act, which made the 2008/2009 crash inevitable. After which, we again had a similar provision put in the Dodd/Frank bill...but Obama had it taken out before it got implemented, which made our current crash inevitable.

The concept is very simple...you CAN NOT allow banks to gamble with depositor's money, period. If a bank wants to aquire invester money to gamble (investment banking), that is fine...but not depositor money (commercial banking), used for personal and business normal economic functions. When you combine the two functions you encourage behavior to ride the lightning, putting us in the precarious position of guaranteeing a collapse at some point in the future.




On to climate change...

While I may not yet be thoroughly convinced that man causes climate change, I stand with the folks who do believe that. I do so because they will have to address pollution and resource utilization...both of which will need a more minimalistic approach if we wish to survive as a species.

"I do not support the Green New Deal."
Joe Biden

"I will not ban fracking."
Joe Biden

Mr. Biden said that on his first day as president, he would ask Americans to wear masks for 100 days. “Just 100 days to mask,” he said. “Not forever. 100 days. And I think we’ll see a significant reduction.”
...
The president-elect also spent considerable time addressing his response to the pandemic, saying that he had asked Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, to play a central role in his administration.

“I asked him to stay on in the exact same role he’s had for the past several presidents, and I asked him to be a chief medical adviser for me as well, and be part of the Covid team,” Mr. Biden said in the interview, adding that he had spoken with Dr. Fauci earlier in the day.
...
Mr. Trump has been overtly critical of Dr. Fauci and frequently ignored the advice of health experts throughout the pandemic, despite testing positive himself for the coronavirus weeks before Election Day.

Intrinsic wrote:Oh. You were talking about another Financial Banking crash. Not the crash from lack of distributation of tangible resources; Food clothing shelter medicine procreation. Not people out of work, low on real resources for they and theirs to stay alive and healthy; the resources are there, they just need to be distributed. Not The 2020 people crashing.

The bankers got it. Damn Obama didn't care about the poor bankers.

Wait wait, you're for government, i.e. Biden, action on climate change because greenhouse effect exist from petroleum burning, the global mean temperature has risen unprecedented over 3 degrees C in correlation . That these are facts the Congress and the president should address.
...
No reading more carefully you still deny the facts, unconvinced or whatever. You're not really talking about climate change. Bait and switch. But NOW you want to criticize Not-Trump [Joe] about it. Uh-huh.

Intrinsic wrote:Blunder #27

Biden urges action on the pandemic, saying he will ask Americans to wear masks for 100 days.

Ron Klain - White House Chief of Staff
(political consultant, former lobbyist, politician, and attorney)

2020 - present ... Biden's presidential campaign as a senior advisor
2015 - 2020 ... an external adviser to the Skoll Foundation Global Threats Fund and is Executive Vice President and General Counsel at the investment firm Revolution LLC
2014 - 2015 ... White House Ebola Response Coordinator
2005 - 2014 ... Executive Vice President and General Counsel of Revolution LLC, and President of Case Holdings
2004 - 2014 ... informal adviser to Evan Bayh
2008 - 2011 ... Chief of Staff to Vice President Joe Biden
2004 ... Klain worked as an adviser to Wesley Clark during Clark's run for president. In the general election, Klain was heavily involved behind the scenes in John Kerry's campaign.
1999 - 2005 ... registered as a lobbyist for Fannie Mae
1999 - 2005 ... partner at law firm O'Melveny & Myers
2000 ... General Counsel of Gore's Recount Committee
1995 - 2000 ... Staff Director of the Senate Democratic Leadership Committee
1995 - 1999 ... Chief of Staff to Al Gore
1994 - 1995 ... Chief of Staff and Counselor to Attorney General Janet Reno
1992 & 1996 ... involved in both of Bill Clinton's presidential campaigns.
1992 - 1994 ... Associate Counsel to the President, oversaw Clinton's judicial nominations
??? ... legislative director for U.S. Representative Ed Markey
1989 - 1992 ... Chief Counsel to the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary
1987 - 1988 ... law clerk for Supreme Court Justice Byron White

...Klain, according to Julie Hirschfeld Davis writing in The New York Times, had "no record or expertise in Ebola specifically or public health in general...

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Xavier Becerra - United States Secretary of Health and Human Services

...Attorney General of California...member of the United States House of Representatives...Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus...lawyer...administrative assistant for state senator Art Torres...deputy attorney general in the California Department of Justice...elected to the California State Assembly...Chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus...Vice Chairman of the House Democratic Caucus...member of the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction...member of the Inter-American Dialogue think tank...B.A. in economics...Juris Doctor...National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform...bicameral conference committee to find bipartisan solutions on the middle class tax cuts, unemployment insurance, and the Medicare physician payment rate...

In 2019, Becerra threatened reporters who had received records of California law enforcement officers who had been convicted of crimes in the past decade.

As of September 26, 2019, Becerra had sued the Trump administration 62 times in total.

Becerra has not joined antitrust efforts against any of the major tech companies.

In December 2020, Becerra was faulted by state district attorneys for not taking leadership to help stop what was described as the biggest taxpayer fraud in California's history.

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, I realize you do not understand how it affects the economy. However, your lack of understanding that banks are the hub of personal and commercial economics is astounding. 

I didn't think it quite made blunder status

Intrinsic wrote:Still, wow it was Obama's fault!

it's actually a goddamn breath of fresh air to actually be federally ordered to wear masks.

Jeffrey Zients - coordinator of the COVID-19 response

From February 2014 to January 2017, he was the director of the National Economic Council. Zients was also acting director of the Office of Management and Budget in 2010 and 2013. Before entering government, Zients was an executive at firms including The Advisory Board Company and CEB.
As of December 2020, Zients was on leave from his position as chief executive officer of Cranemere, an investment firm. He was a member of Facebook's board of directors from 2018 to 2020.

Zients worked in management consulting for Mercer Management Consulting (now Oliver Wyman) and Bain & Company. As a consultant Zients reportedly "fell in love with Bain's culture, teamwork … and analytical rigor". After Bain, he was appointed the chief operating officer of DGB Enterprises, a holding company for the Advisory Board Company, Corporate Executive Board, and Atlantic Media Company.

Following the error-plagued launch of healthcare.gov on October 1, 2013, President Obama and Chief of Staff Denis McDonough asked Zients to fix the website. While leading the "tech surge" to fix healthcare.gov, Zients had an ownership position in PSA Healthcare. The position of the White House was that Zients's stake in PSA Healthcare, a pediatric home health business, was not a conflict of interest.

In summer 2020, Saguaro Strategies, a media and consulting firm, heavily edited Zients's Wikipedia page as he became more prominent in the Joe Biden 2020 presidential campaign.

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retired four-star general Lloyd Austin - Secretary of Defense

In 2016, Austin joined the board of Raytheon Technologies, a military contractor. On September 18, 2017, he was appointed to Nucor's board of directors. On May 29, 2018, Austin was appointed as an independent director on the board of Tenet Healthcare. He also operates a consulting firm, Austin Strategy Group, LLC.

Austin will need a congressional waiver of the National Security Act of 1947 to bypass the seven-year waiting period after leaving active-duty military, as prescribed by 10 U.S.C. § 113(a), in order to be appointed as secretary of defense.

Tom Vilsack - Secretary of Agriculture

2017 - present ... President and CEO of the US Dairy Export Council
2009 - 2017 ... Secretary of Agriculture
1999 - 2007 ... Governor of Iowa
1993 - 1999 ... Iowa Senate
1987 - 1992 ... Mayor of Mount Pleasant

...volunteered in the 1987 presidential campaign of Joe Biden.

In first year of his second term <as Governor>, Vilsack used a line-item veto, later ruled unconstitutional by the Iowa Supreme Court, to create the Grow Iowa Values Fund, a $503 million appropriation designed to boost the Iowa economy by offering grants to corporations...
Candidates seeking to replace Vilsack...criticized this program. They complained that companies attracted to Iowa by the fund can be lured away by financial incentives elsewhere and that the legislation does not promote new business creation.

Vilsack vetoed a bill to restrict Iowa's use of eminent domain, citing its potential for negative impact on job creation.
His veto was overridden by the legislature.

In 2005, Vilsack established Heartland PAC, a political action committee aimed at electing Democratic governors.

Vilsack was the founder and former chair of the Governor's Biotechnology Partnership, and was named Governor of the Year by the Biotechnology Industry Organization, an industry lobbying group.

In March 2012, Vilsack joined three midwest governors in a campaign to defend the use of a processed beef product made from trimmings left after beef carcasses are butchered, dubbed "pink slime" by its critics.

At a Drake University forum on climate change April 22, 2014 Vilsack stated "agriculture tends to take the brunt of criticism about climate change, but the industry contributes only 9 percent of the greenhouse gases blamed for a warming planet" and that while there were "challenges globally in terms of agriculture and its contribution to greenhouse gas emissions that's not necessarily the case in the United States."

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Marcia Fudge - Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

In 2015, Fudge wrote a letter asking for leniency in the sentencing of Lance Mason. Fudge described Mason as "kind," and wrote that "Lance [...] has assured me that something like this will never happen again." Mason subsequently attacked and killed his (now) ex-wife, in 2018, stabbing her 59 times.

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Susan Rice - Director of the Domestic Policy Council

A former Brookings Institution fellow, Rice served as a foreign policy advisor to Democratic presidential nominees Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, and Barack Obama. After Obama won the 2008 presidential election, Rice was nominated as Ambassador to the United Nations.
...defended Israel at the Security Council, pushed for tough sanctions against Iran and North Korea, and advocated for U.S. and NATO intervention in Libya in 2011.

Mentioned as a possible replacement for retiring United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2012, Rice withdrew from consideration following controversy related to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi.

At the time of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, Rice reportedly said, "If we use the word 'genocide' and are seen as doing nothing, what will be the effect on the November election?" She denied the quote but acknowledged the mistakes made at the time...

Timothy M. Carney, former U.S. ambassador to Sudan, co-authored an op-ed in 2002 claiming that in 1997 Sudan offered to turn over its intelligence on bin Laden but that Rice...successfully lobbied for continuing to bar U.S. officials from engaging with the Khartoum government.

In the context of the Rwandan, Ugandan, AFDL and Angolan invasion of Zaire (later known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo) in 1996 and overthrow of dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, Rice is alleged to have said that "Anything's better than Mobutu." According to Gérard Prunier, a staffer to the Assistant Secretary said that "the only thing we have to do is look the other way," with respect to regional intervention in the conflict. New York Times correspondent Howard W. French said that according to his sources, Rice herself made the remark.

On July 7, 1998, Rice was a member of an American delegation to visit detained Nigerian president-elect Basorun Moshood Kashimawo Olawale Abiola. During this meeting, Abiola suffered a fatal heart attack.

Rice supported U.S. efforts to reach both the Lusaka Ceasefire Agreement in the Congo and the Lomé Peace Accord in Sierra Leone. Some observers criticized the Sierra Leone agreement as too indulgent of the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) and for bringing the war criminal Foday Sankoh into government, leading to the adoption of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1313, which blamed the RUF for the continuing conflict in the west African country.

Rice had a poor relationship with State Department veteran Richard Holbrooke...

...in a December 2002 NPR interview, Rice said, "It's clear that Iraq poses a major threat. It's clear that its weapons of mass destruction need to be dealt with forcefully, and that's the path we're on. ..."

Rice criticized Obama's Republican opponent in the campaign, John McCain, calling his policies "reckless" and dismissing the Arizona senator's trip to Iraq as "strolling around the market in a flak jacket."

As the 2011 Libyan Civil War progressed, the United States and its allies offered a choice for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and his aides: step down from power or face an international response. Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as "frankly, delusional." In a closed-door Security Council meeting in April 2011, Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence, and that Gaddafi's troops has been issued Viagra. Together with National Security Council figure Samantha Power, who already supported the U.S.-led military intervention in Libya, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who came to support it, the three overcame internal opposition from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, security adviser Thomas E. Donilon, and counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, to have the administration advance a UN proposal to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and authorize other military actions as necessary.

In January 2012, after the Russian and Chinese veto of a Security Council resolution calling on Syrian president Bashar al-Assad to step down, Rice strongly condemned both countries, saying, "They put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully," and adding that "we the United States are standing with the people of Syria. Russia and China are obviously with Assad." In her words, "the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."

2012 Benghazi attack...Rice appeared on five major interview shows to discuss the attacks. Prior to her appearance, Rice was provided with "talking points" from a CIA memo...
Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public.
A group of 97 House Republicans sent a letter to President Obama on November 19 to say Rice's statements were "misleading" and that she should accordingly not be considered a candidate to succeed Hillary Clinton in 2013 as Secretary of State. Some Republican senators, who would have had a vote on whether to confirm Rice, also voiced objections and said their meetings with Rice at the end of November 2012 did not ease their concerns.

Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes against Syria's chemical weapons facilities, following the Assad regime's use of sarin gas against civilians in August 2013. She argued to move forward with strikes to punish Assad, correctly predicting Congress would not grant authorization.

...during the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict. She also negotiated a new memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Israel in 2016 for $38 billion of military assistance, the largest such package in Israel's history.

Rice supported South Sudanese independence and initial U.S. aid to the government of president Salva Kiir Mayardit. When the South Sudanese Civil War broke out in 2013 between President Kiir's forces and forces led by vice president Riek Machar, the U.S. continued its support for the Kiir administration despite reports from U.S. embassy staff of atrocities committed by the government.

Rice was perceived as close to Rwanda's president Paul Kagame. Some critics of the Obama administration's Africa policy faulted Rice for what they viewed as the U.S.'s failure to take action against Rwanda for its role in the Kivu conflict.

On March 28, 2018, Rice was appointed to the board of directors at Netflix.

Rice also criticized Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria...

...is a member of the Aspen Strategy Group, American Academy of Diplomacy, and Council on Foreign Relations.

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Rice had a poor relationship with State Department veteran Richard Holbrooke,

she considered to be meddling on her turf and who in return felt she was rising too quickly in U.S. diplomatic ranks.

In January 2012, after the Russian and Chinese veto of a Security Council resolution calling on Syrian president Bashar al-Assad to step down, Rice strongly condemned both countries, saying, "They put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully," and adding that "we the United States are standing with the people of Syria. Russia and China are obviously with Assad." In her words, "the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."

2020 Benghazi attack...Rice appeared on five major interview shows to discuss the attacks. Prior to her appearance, Rice was provided with "talking points" from a CIA memo...
Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public.
A group of 97 House Republicans sent a letter to President Obama on November 19 to say Rice's statements were "misleading" and that she should accordingly not be considered a candidate to succeed Hillary Clinton in 2013 as Secretary of State. Some Republican senators, who would have had a vote on whether to confirm Rice, also voiced objections and said their meetings with Rice at the end of November 2012 did not ease their concerns.

Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public. However, none of the ten Benghazi investigations conducted by Congress—six by Republican-controlled House committees—determined she had. The Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee's two-year investigation did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.

Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes against Syria's chemical weapons facilities, following the Assad regime's use of sarin gas against civilians in August 2013. She argued to move forward with strikes to punish Assad, correctly predicting Congress would not grant authorization.

Rice and Kerry later worked to pursue a diplomatic solution with Russia instead. This effort led to United Nations Security Council Resolution 2118, which compelled Syria to destroy its declared chemical weapons stockpile and join the Chemical Weapons Convention. Under the agreement, 1,300 metric tons of chemical weapons were removed from Syria under international observation. However, the Assad regime either obtained or created gas for renewed chemical attacks in 2017.

During her tenure at the United Nations, Rice championed a human rights and anti-poverty agenda, elevated climate change and women's rights as global priorities, and committed the U.S. to agreements such as the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, and the U.N. Millennium Development Goals.Rice led the fight to advance LGBT rights at the U.N. Human Rights Council and was recognized for her staunch defense of Israel at the Security Council.[51][52] Rice won praise for leading the Security Council to impose the toughest sanctions to date on Iran and North Korea over their nuclear programs, and for reaffirming U.S. commitment to the UN and multilateralism.[53]

Intrinsic wrote:So?

"the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."

Her stance is pro people versus pro-government. So that's bad?

That wouldn't be doctor Rice's fault, would it?

Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes...
She argued to move forward with strikes...

And such goes on with the critique.

In addition from Wikipedia not mentioned.

Not sure what your big beef is with her...

Yep looking at the ratfucking picks currently going on from T**** administrations, she looks pretty dang good.

Pete Buttigieg - Secretary of Transportation

...second term as mayor...
In 2013, Buttigieg proposed a "Smart Streets" urban development program to improve South Bend's downtown area, and in early 2015—after traffic studies and public hearings—he secured a bond issue for the program backed by tax increment financing. "Smart Streets" was aimed at improving economic development and urban vibrancy as well as road safety. The project involved the conversion of one-way streets in downtown to two-way streets, traffic-calming measures, the widening of sidewalks, streetside beautification (including the planting of trees and installation of decorative brickwork), the addition of bike lanes and the introduction of roundabouts.

After Biden was declared the winner of the election on November 7, 2020, Buttigieg was again mentioned as a possible nominee for Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador to China or Secretary of Transportation.

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Jennifer Granholm - Secretary of Energy

2003 - 2011 ... Governor of Michigan
1999 - 2003 ... Attorney General of Michigan

First term <as Governor>...
Granholm also supported alternative energy jobs to Michigan to replace lost auto manufacturing jobs.

Second term...
She had one of the lowest approval ratings for any governor in the United States.
Granholm delivered her sixth State of the State address on January 29, 2008. The speech focused mainly on creating jobs in Michigan through bringing alternative energy companies to Michigan. Through passing a renewable portfolio standard, which would require that 10 percent of Michigan's energy would come from renewable sources by 2015 and 25 percent by 2025, Granholm expected the alternative energy industry to emerge in Michigan. Since the passage of the standard, Mariah Power, Global Wind Systems, Cascade Swift Turbine, Great Lakes Turbine, and 38 other companies have announced new projects in Michigan. The solar and wind power industries now provide over 10,000 jobs in Michigan. As a result of Granholm's efforts, Michigan is now fourth in the nation in the number of jobs in the solar industry and first in the nation for clean energy patents.

With the election of Barack Obama as president, Granholm joined his economic advisory team, having had extensive experience running the Michigan economy, and there was speculation that she might join the Obama administration.

As a senior advisor to The Pew Charitable Trusts' Clean Energy Program and founder of The American Jobs Project at UC Berkeley, Granholm spearheads a campaign for a national clean energy policy that promotes and funds American energy independence and home-grown manufacturing and innovation for wind, solar, and advanced battery industries across the United States.

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Intrinsic wrote:Forgive and forget is a better policy then prosecution...

Blah blah blah...

McConnell, Barr, Wolfe, Dejoy, the gop Senate et al are criminals. No forgetting.
No forgiveness for anyone supporting of Trump...

 failure to contain a man made virus released by a foreign country

is worse than lying us into imperialistic actions killing millions of innocents intentionally?

Oh look, the NDAA just overwhelmingly passed in short order with another increase to military spending...while Pelosi admits to holding up relief for citizens, in order to get Joe elected.

You did see the zoom where Biden tells civil rights leaders to STFU...right?

"Trump gone, now what?...NOW WHAT?!?"

Intrinsic wrote:Cue Q conspiracist.

What? ... What?

...Pelosi admits to holding up relief for citizens, in order to get Joe elected.

...Biden tells civil rights leaders to STFU...

So? Doesn't negate forgiving pandemic and economic disasters alone is still the bigger mistakes.

...y'all Trump apologist.

Butcher Bob wrote:

...y'all Trump apologist.

That has irony on so many levels...it's like a "where's Waldo", where everyone is Waldo.

Jesús Malverde wrote:The virus most likely originated from bats. It's almost impossible to conclusively prove any origin theory though.

Butcher Bob wrote: But Bo is right in that if Biden doesn't significantly embrace citizens' needs, i.e. healthcare, economics, climate change, etc., it will continue to destroy the Democrat party.

Intrinsic wrote:relief package...has an amendment attached to it that allows the Federal Reserve to purchase private equity, without the permission of the government.

Interesting, got a link. Does that mean the reserve purchase equities with government permission already?

Janet Yellen made millions in Wall Street, corporate speeches

In the past two years, President-elect Joe Biden’s pick to be Treasury secretary, Janet Yellen, has raked in more than $7.2 million in speaking fees from Wall Street and large corporations including Citi, Goldman Sachs, Google, City National Bank, UBS, Citadel LLC, Barclays, Credit Suisse, Salesforce and more.

Yellen, the former chair of the Federal Reserve, brought in nearly $1 million giving nine speeches to Citi alone. She earned more than $800,000 speaking to Citadel, a hedge fund founded by the Republican megadonor Ken Griffin. She also spoke to the law and lobbying firm Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/0 ... hes-453223" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yellen Earned $7.2 Million In Speaking Fees Over Last Two Years

Janet Yellen, President-elect Joe Biden’s nominee for treasury secretary, has earned more than $7 million in speaking fees from banks and large companies since leaving the Federal Reserve in 2018, a record that will force Yellen to seek permission before working at Treasury with some of Wall Street’s largest financial institutions.

- Yellen earned around $7.26 million from dozens of speaking engagements in 2019 and 2020, according to a disclosure form submitted by Biden’s transition team this week and posted by the Office of Government Ethics Thursday night.

- The former Federal Reserve chair’s clients included Citi (which paid for at least nine speeches in 2019 and 2020), Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse, Deloitte, Salesforce and several other Wall Street banks and large corporations.

- Yellen has also earned $350,000 in consulting and speaking fees from Magellan Financial Group, an Australia-based asset management company, though she doesn’t hold any equity in the firm and says she’ll resign from her consulting post there if she’s confirmed as treasury secretary.

If the Senate confirms Yellen to helm the Treasury, the paid speeches she’s given to large banks could complicate her job overseeing them. Per government rules, she committed this week to seeking written permission from a Treasury-appointed ethics official for at least one year if she needs to participate “personally and substantially” in any matters involving Citi, Goldman Sachs, or any other bank that has paid her. This ethics requirement could drag on for the first nine months of the Biden administration because she spoke to multiple financial institutions in October of 2020.

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Intrinsic wrote:...Progressive sites saying Republican party is dead and or is splitting too.

bentech wrote:the right blogosphere is talking about a civil war within the democratic party

Intrinsic wrote:Don't you see that now??

Trump is right now thinking about nuking Iran. FUCK

25th.

Gina Raimondo - Secretary of Commerce

...an American politician and venture capitalist...

Raimondo acted as senior vice president for fund development at the Manhattan offices of Village Ventures, a venture capital firm based in Williamstown, Massachusetts, and backed by Bain Capital and Highland Capital Groups. Raimondo returned to Rhode Island in 2000 to co-found the state's first venture capital firm, Point Judith Capital. Point Judith subsequently relocated its offices to Boston, Massachusetts. At Point Judith, Raimondo served as a general partner covering health care investments; she retains some executive duties with the firm.

...as general treasurer of Rhode Island...
In May 2011, Raimondo released "Truth in Numbers", a report that advocated for benefit cuts as the solution to Rhode Island's pension problems, and she helped lead the effort to cut pensions...
Under Raimondo's tenure, the pension fund was criticized for underperforming when compared with its peers. Raimondo's critics attributed the underperformance to a sharp increase in fees paid to hedge fund managers...

...governor of Rhode Island...
Raimondo has cut taxes every year and removed 8,000 pages of regulations — 30 percent of the state's regulations.

State Health and Human Services computer system failure
A widely-criticized rollout of a new computer network system for the Rhode Island Executive Office of Health and Human Services dubbed the "Unified Health Infrastructure Project" (UHIP) in September 2016 saw scores of people without access to government programs such as food stamps and child care due to glitches in the software, designed by Deloitte. This computer crash created a backlog of over 20,000 cases.
The Raimondo Administration received several letters from the federal government in August and September 2016 warning that UHIP was not ready to be launched. On the orders of Raimondo, the UHIP launch occurred as planned despite these federal warnings. The U.S. Food and Nutrition Service's Northeast Regional Administrator, Kurt Messner, urged Raimondo to postpone the launch because it would interrupt or interfere with benefits that the agency oversees. Messner said in the letter which local news outlets described as "strongly-worded" that "The transition plan remains inadequate and unacceptable." Messner also pointed out that the state had failed to gradually launch UHIP in phases or administer a live pilot test of UHIP. Messner opined that "Launching a system without having conducted a live pilot is against the intent of the regulations and against our best advice." The Raimondo Administration ultimately ignored the federal warnings resulting in benefit delays, system downtime, and benefit loss caused in error.
December 2016 saw the federal government give the state Department of Human Services less than a month to fix the UHIP computer system or risk losing $13 million in federal funding. Federal officials judged that the state was not compliant in lowering a significant case backlog, starting a sufficient call-center, adequate staff training, and improving wait times at Health and Human Services field offices.
In February 2017, Executive Secretary of Health and Human Services Elizabeth H. Roberts resigned from her cabinet post in the Raimondo Administration due to the failed roll-out of the UHIP.
In March 2017 Rhode Island Monthly reported that the U.S. Department of Justice opened an investigation into UHIP, specifically false claims and statements made about the Health and Human Services computer network rollout. The investigation was still underway as of summer 2017. In an interview, House Oversight Chair Rep. Patricia Serpa (D-West Warwick) said, "There’s plenty of blame to go around. The auditor’s report found that [the contract with Deloitte] was poorly written, poorly overseen and poorly executed. They were warned against the implementation because the system was not ready. Not only did they implement it, they displaced all of the most senior workers with the wealth of experience. We pulled all the plugs to make sure this was a failure."
According to documents submitted to the federal government, the cost estimate for UHIP through 2021 is $656 million. State taxpayers will pay $154 million of this amount while the federal government will pay the remainder.
In January 2020 State Senator Sam Bell said that a Rhode Island Senate Fiscal Report on Raimondo's budget proved that "a single UHIP update kicked 5,500 Rhode Islanders off their Medicaid" in November 2019 without due process and the decisions were based on a computer update. Bell went on to say that "Medicaid terminations need to be done with some due process. They should not come from a notoriously glitchy computer system. You should have a chance to fight the decision to rip away your health insurance. When you lose your Medicaid with no warning and no effort to transition you onto the exchange, the consequences can be deadly."

RI DCYF fatalities and near-fatalities
Under Governor Raimondo, the Rhode Island Department of Children, Youth & Families has come under fire due to its relatively high rate of deaths and near-deaths of children in its care. In a period between January 2016 and December 2017, there were 31 fatalities or near fatalities of children in its care, with eight being confirmed fatal.
Raimondo appointed Trista Piccola as her new DCYF director in January 2017. Piccola's term was marked by the death and near-deaths of children, high staff turn-over rates, votes of no confidence, and high budget deficits. Rep. Patricia Serpa and Rep. Charlene Lima called for the resignation of Piccola, which finally occurred in July 2019.
In October 2018, the United States Department of Health and Human Services' Administration for Children and Families ordered the Raimondo Administration DCYF to improve in 33 of 36 areas assessed. The federal report noted that DCYF services were "inadequate, not developed when needed, or lacked consistent monitoring." Harvard Kennedy School professor and former Obama Administration official Jeffrey Liebman agreed with the recommendations and analysis of the report from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and claimed that the DCYF is "the most messed-up agency ever."

Between assuming office and the end of 2019, Raimondo consistently ranked in the bottom four approval ratings for all governors in the United States.

In early February 2020, Raimondo appeared alongside former Republican New York City Mayor and Democratic presidential hopeful Mike Bloomberg at the Wexford Innovation Center in Providence to endorse his candidacy, a move she described as “an easy call.” Raimondo was named a national co-chair for the Bloomberg campaign.

She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations

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Jared Bernstein - Member of the Council of Economic Advisers

From 2009 to 2011, Bernstein was the Chief Economist and Economic Adviser to Vice President Joe Biden in the Obama Administration.

...bachelor's degree in music...Master of Social Work...master's degree in philosophy and a PhD in social welfare...

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Heather Boushey - Member of the Council of Economic Advisers

She has also worked as an economist at the Center for American Progress...

In 2016, it was announced that Boushey would have been the chief economist on Hillary Clinton's presidential transition team had she won. Previously an economic councilor to President-elect Joe Biden...

After Boushey's role in the Biden administration was announced, Claudia Sahm, a former employee at Equitable Growth, accused her of mismanagement. Sahm claimed that she had been pushed out of her job after publishing a blog post regarding racism, sexism, and elitism in economics that Boushey took issue with. Equitable Growth denied Sahm's account. Wikileaks documents mention that five former staff members cited Boushey's management as a factor in their resignations.

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Intrinsic wrote: I agree most Americans would be happy to see Trump go away. But not just go away but rot in prison..

Witchking wrote:...the ACA destroyed my good healthcare.

The Democrats and the media hated Trump right from jump street. His whole term was nothing but defending himself against an autocratic power structure in Washington..run by career politicians who long ago sold their souls and were determined to keep their extreme corruption under wraps.

Intrinsic wrote:Obviously, that is because had a long history. Many knew him who he was already. nothing to like about him nothing to respect. I'm against a businessman running a 'for the people' structure on that alone if it wasn't already for his corrupt and failing resume.

You want to get protesters off the streets?...give them healthcare like the rest of the world does. It's a good place to start.

Intrinsic wrote:

You want to get protesters off the streets?...give them healthcare like the rest of the world does. It's a good place to start.

Who says I want the protesters off the street, strawman.
I'm on board with more BLM protesters, they better not stop.

Intrinsic wrote:Dang that's a lot of crazy to unpack. I'm going to Cherry pick...

Mmmmm.I'm not sure about that...

Yeah that was hyperbole. Buoyed by the the poll I cited in thread 25,

Trump got elected because he spoke to a country of disenfranchised people. That was ALOT of people. We are still ALOT of people..trust me.

Yeah obviously, I live in maga country. but that doesn't mean what he spoke was good truthful or helpful. I didn't see any indication,
I present contrary evidence: January 6th.
And it ain't nothing new.

Did he helped you, How? How?


The Democrats and the media hated Trump right from jump street. 

Obviously, that is because had a long history. Many knew him who he was already. nothing to like about him nothing to respect. I'm against a businessman running a 'for the people' structure on that alone if it wasn't already for his corrupt and failing resume.

The criticism is Justified. He lies continually, unbelievable people fall for that bullshit.

Sorry your feelings got hurt snowflake. Yeah trumps the victim.


 in today's day and age, we got exactly what we needed. Yin and Yang..they came out with their Identity politics and political correctness...we came out with Trump.

I'm on board with that you did a vent and identify (takes a slow step back)
do you think you can deal with reason? Bob's against truth and justice.

If not Then I don't get to QED ya. Or vice versa.
meh but it might be fun playing cat in mouse.

Fuck Trump with a large green turkey dick.
We will never forget Lafayette Square massacre.

Yeah that hyperbole, I wish he would just disappear so I can finally get on about biden.

But you're right there's plenty of trumpets to grift. Yanno need a king. The south will rise. Anti science. Yup a whole swath of 'em.

Witchking wrote:What would happen if Joe Biden really DIDN'T win the election?? Now lets play devils advocate here..Would you accept the results?
No. You would riot(c'mon you know you would).

"Ahhh so you have chosen to bite already. Wow, that didn't take long. I didn't really think it would. You guys are so predictable"

"You don't think the Dems are lying(or have never lied) too you."

"To answer one of your questions ...Yeah he did help me...he gave me the best many economy is years for one, he put more money in my pay check, gas prices were as low as I've seen them in many years. Great stock market for my 401K, See these are all tangible things that directly benefited me as an individual. "

What would happen if Joe Biden really DIDN'T win the election?? Now lets play devils advocate here..Would you accept the results?
No. You would riot(c'mon you know you would)."

Please don't tell me you're guys vision for America is any better than mine or Trumps. As far as I am concerned the left has every bit the power to destroy as much as the right. Stalin would tell you so.. So would Hitler. Both sides have been taking turns fucking us for 100 years."

"UnSustainability should be your biggest fear "

Jaime Harrison - DNC Chair

Harrison broke U.S. Senate campaign fundraising record by raising $109 million.
Harrison lost the election to Lindsey Graham by over ten percentage points...

...working for Jim Clyburn as his director of floor operations while Clyburn was the Majority Whip of the United States House of Representatives. Harrison went on to serve as executive director of the House Democratic Caucus and the vice chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party. He later served as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group. His clients at the Podesta Group included banks, such as Bank of America and Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway, pharmaceutical companies, casinos, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, and Walmart, among others.

He defended his eight-year record at the Podesta Group, saying, "It's how I pay back the $160,000 of student loan debt."

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Intrinsic wrote:

"Ahhh so you have chosen to bite already. Wow, that didn't take long. I didn't really think it would. You guys are so predictable"

As opposed to ignoring you cuz yanno not wanting to deal with same old debunked shit. ..

... looks around for Merry's Dunedain dagger.

"You don't think the Dems are lying(or have never lied) too you."

No. I've pointed it out many times here.

"To answer one of your questions ...Yeah he did help me...he gave me the best many economy is years for one, he put more money in my pay check, gas prices were as low as I've seen them in many years. Great stock market for my 401K, See these are all tangible things that directly benefited me as an individual. "

if you vouch for the cause and effect. Cool.

What would happen if Joe Biden really DIDN'T win the election?? Now lets play devils advocate here..Would you accept the results?
No. You would riot(c'mon you know you would)."

You got some weird ideas about me. I didn't vote for Hillary but no one rioted then. I'll tell you what, I'm dead set against electoral, vote suppression, gerrymandering rigging white supremacist shit.
And I didn't riot. as Prawn noted, historical evidence seyz yer wrong.

Huh are you saying you did riot?

Fwiw Trump bitches stormed the capitol as Prawns pawns in Trump's coup d'etat. Played as suckers. Trump said he was going with 'em too. Hook Line & Sinker.

Please don't tell me you're guys vision for America is any better than mine or Trumps. As far as I am concerned the left has every bit the power to destroy as much as the right. Stalin would tell you so.. So would Hitler. Both sides have been taking turns fucking us for 100 years."

I think that's kinda the general view here. But HelI i don't even know what your vision for America is. White?

"UnSustainability should be your biggest fear "

It is. But I'm armchair ecologist. Yanno the big picture not yer petty politics.

Why are you bringing race into this? Why would my vision of America be White? Pretty presumptuous statement considering you don't even know me....no idea where you came up with that..unless of course your just done with this, and that would be fine with me.

Intrinsic wrote:@ bob I don't understand chair, chair of what? What are their duties? Does that mean Biden is picking Democratic Party positions. Is that a president's prerogative?

Butcher Bob wrote:

Intrinsic wrote:@ bob I don't understand chair, chair of what? What are their duties? Does that mean Biden is picking Democratic Party positions. Is that a president's prerogative?

Why you play dumb so much? You know the party votes...you also know who's nominations they'll vote for. The guy still sucks. And that will be a detriment to the party doing the right things for it's constituency. These two people will not be serving our best interests...they will be serving their own.

Butcher Bob wrote:Biden's blunders...
...let's keep track.

I once heard a quote from a coach..."If you're not losing 50% of the time, you're not going to get any better.". It sounds a bit nuts on first glance, until you realize the context. He was pointing out that if you do not put your abilities up against real challenges, to identify weaknesses and failures, you will never improve. And I concur whole-heartedly, so I would like to apply that philosophy to Biden's presidency.

If you see Biden fuk up, post it up. But let's leave rumorous pissing match material out of it, and stick to sourced information. If sourced info is wrong, we can hash that out here. We can have opinions aboot things, but they should be based on reality.


I'm going to start with an area of personal interest to me, Biden's "economic team" cabinet appointments...

Janet Yellen - Secretary of the Treasury

2014 - 2018 ... Chair of the Federal Reserve
2010 - 2014 ... Vice chair of the Federal Reserve
2004 - 2010 ... President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
1997 - 1999 ... Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under President Bill Clinton
1994 - 1997 ... Federal Reserve Board Governor

Following her appointment to the Federal Reserve in 2004, she spoke publicly and in meetings of the Fed's monetary policy committee, about her concern about the potential consequences of the boom in housing prices.[22] However, Yellen did not lead the San Francisco Fed to "move to check [the] increasingly indiscriminate lending" of Countrywide Financial, the largest lender in the U.S.[23]

In a 2005 speech in San Francisco, Yellen argued against deflating the housing bubble because "arguments against trying to deflate a bubble outweigh those in favor of it" and predicted that the housing bubble "could be large enough to feel like a good-sized bump in the road, but the economy would likely be able to absorb the shock."[24]

On April 28, 2010, President Obama nominated Yellen...as vice-chair of the Federal Reserve...
Yellen simultaneously began a 14-year term as a member of the Federal Reserve Board that will expire on January 31, 2024.

...while Yellen was chair of the Federal Reserve...Yellen began the process of reversing some of the policies that had been enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis of 2008.

On June 27, 2017, Yellen generated controversy when she stated that she did not expect another financial crisis "in our lifetime."

Yellen was one of the signees of a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

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Adewale "Wally" Adeyemo - Deputy Secretary of the Treasury

2019 - present ... first president of the Obama Foundation

...worked as the chief negotiator for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

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Neera Tanden - Director of the Office of Management and Budget

She is the president of the Center for American Progress...where she has served in different capacities since 2003.

Tanden has worked on several Democratic presidential campaigns, including those of Michael Dukakis in 1988, Bill Clinton in 1992, and Barack Obama in 2008. Tanden advised Hillary Clinton's successful 2016 primary campaign and unsuccessful 2016 general election campaign. She was also a senior staffer on Clinton's unsuccessful campaign for the 2008 Democratic nomination. During the Obama administration, Tanden helped draft the Affordable Care Act.

She has been described as one of the "key architects" of the Affordable Care Act.

In 2003, Tanden had a central role in the founding of the Center for American Progress (CAP).
In October 2011, Tanden succeeded John Podesta as CAP's president and CEO.

In 2018, reports emerged that Tanden had revealed the first name of a CAP employee complaining of sexual harassment.

She is regarded as a loyalist and confidante of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

...she opposes single-payer healthcare, including Medicare for All proposals.

Tanden has been a vocal critic of U.S. Senator and former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, his policy proposals, and his supporters.

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Cecilia Rouse - Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

Rouse served as a member of President Barack Obama's Council of Economic Advisers from 2009 to 2011. Prior to serving in the Obama Administration, Rouse served in the National Economic Council under President Bill Clinton from 1998 to 1999.

She is...a director of the T. Rowe Price Equity Mutual Funds and an Advisory Board Member of the T. Rowe Price Fixed Income Mutual Funds.

Rouse signed a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilia_Rouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm just scratching the surface with these folks...it's just commonly accepted info from Wiki. I'm sure I will be doing more thorough digging on Yellen and Tanden as we go. And yeah, I cherry picked info...because I am only looking for things that I consider to be weaknesses/failures.

Yellen...
...has spent almost her entire career with the Federal Reserve in some capacity, most of it in top positions.
...recognized, but failed to act on, the housing bubble that caused the 2008/2009 crash.
...retracted safeguards put in place as a result of that crash, which has/is causing another crash, that she predicted we would never see in our lifetimes.
...endorsed racial discrimination at Harvard.

Adeyemo...
...is heavily tied to Obama policies, which arguably brought us Trump.
...was a key architect of the extremely flawed TPP.

Tanden...
...is CAP.
...is a partisan political player, involved with more than half of the presidential campaigns in the last three decades.
...was a key architect of what most consider to be a very flawed ACA.
...doxed an anonymous sexual harassment victim.
...is opposed to M4A.
...is opposed to all of the progressive policies Sanders advocates for.

Rouse...
...was an advisor to Clinton's economic policies that caused the 2008/2009 crash.
...was an advisor to Obama's economic policies that caused the crash we are currently experiencing.
...has a current conflict of interest with her positions in a capital/debt investment company.
...endorsed racial discrimination at Harvard.

These things are huge red flags to me.

The Secretary of the Treasury is supposed to represent the country's interests when dealing with the Fed. Giving that position to Yellen is akin to giving robbers unfettered access to the vault. Her background leads me to believe she will act in the best interest of the Fed, not the country. Not that she could even get things right when they really matter anyways. And she gets a yes man for a side kick.

If you think congress and the president have the most control over the country's spending, then you do not understand what the OMB does. They have more influence on the budget than anyone else in the process. Tanden is a pro-war advocate...who publically supported military action in Libya, so that we could take their oil. But when it comes to money spent on citizens...she has publically stated that she believes that social security, medicare, and medicaid all need cuts...has publically opposed social programs like M4A, college, college debt forgiveness, etc. that Sanders advocates in favor of.

Rouse is now going to be Biden's top economic advisor...after helping Clinton get it wrong...and then helping Obama get it wrong. But I'll bet the private firm she's serving did well before, are doing well now, and will continue to do well for the foreseeable future, no matter what.


None of these top finance/economic appointments are good for the citizens of this country.

And on Jan. 29, the immigration themed day, Biden is expected to sign executive orders to direct a review of the public charge rule and create a task force to reunify families separated during the Trump administration.

Intrinsic wrote:If I saw any of that news Shrugged It Off yet more corrupt Party politics, worthless to consider.

...if it's just that sort of party bullshit I don't care. sorry.

WhiteHotAfterburner wrote:Hello BB!

So good to see you're still active here. And even better you're not glossing over President Biden's nearly 50 years of being on the wrong side of every policy presented him

Good work, my friend! *I'll be dipping my toe into the water after I get some other matters sorted out *

Awesome seeing you here!



,
WHAB

Intrinsic wrote:Hmmm. Still sounds just like his initial disaster of taking six months plan.
Chop chop. We should tell him he can't see his children till it's done.

To his credit...

So your OK with a party that blatantly commits election fraud controlling our government?
Personally, I would like to see the Dems be better than that.

Butcher Bob wrote:

Intrinsic wrote:If I saw any of that news Shrugged It Off yet more corrupt Party politics, worthless to consider.

...if it's just that sort of party bullshit I don't care. sorry.

So your OK with a party that blatantly commits election fraud controlling our government?
Personally, I would like to see the Dems be better than that.

WhiteHotAfterburner wrote:Hello BB!

So good to see you're still active here. And even better you're not glossing over President Biden's nearly 50 years of being on the wrong side of every policy presented him

Good work, my friend! *I'll be dipping my toe into the water after I get some other matters sorted out *

Awesome seeing you here!



,
WHAB

WHAB !!! ...good to see you brother.

Someone was wondering aboot you a little while ago....I figured you were due to check-in soon...and here you are. I see you have a little project on your hands. A bit of work on the eves and gable ends and that house will look awful sweet.

Eh, I'm doing the thread mostly for a quick point of reference. My IRL brother's political views are very close to Intrinsic's. So this is a good spot to collect info, and to get Intrinsic's input in case there is something I've neglected to consider.

Hope you will hang around...I'm looking forward to seeing any of the work you do on the house.

Intrinsic wrote:Hmmm. Still sounds just like his initial disaster of taking six months plan.
Chop chop. We should tell him he can't see his children till it's done.

That is fukking hilarious....yet oddly, would be appropriate.
I think we're going to be seeing a lot of "six month" time frames. That time frame has been swirling around in media lately. There's some significance to it, but I can't seem to remember it at the moment.

To his credit...

I also saw Joe say he was putting an immediate halt on the wall construction...that he wanted to appoint committees to determine which parts to continue, and which parts to tear down...to be reported back to him...in six months.

Intrinsic wrote:Ummm the six-month time frame is from that Beau of the fifth column video I posted earlier. 'Member?

Intrinsic wrote:

Why are you bringing race into this? Why would my vision of America be White? Pretty presumptuous statement considering you don't even know me....no idea where you came up with that..unless of course your just done with this, and that would be fine with me.

Huh it wasn't a statement it was a question. that's the point I don't know. that's why I asked.
I didn't think so, I hoped not , but now methinks tho protest too much.

My vision of America, well for people in General:
Decisions based on science, using the scientific method 4 problem solving. Reason. sustainable economy. Respect
Empathy. An educated population. Socialism, that is structures that are needed by people should be owned by the people. Not the bullshit trumpian Mccarthism right wing garbage 180 degree Distorted lie. This does not exclude capitalism, I have an essay here somewhere using the United States Forest Service in a real life example of socialism and capitalism married and works. Sustainable. Compared to a what happened to land run for profit. I'm saying if you want to talk socialism be sure you understand it.

Those are a few of the things I like.

Stay, go whatever, I will track you down regardless at the Cabana bwaaa haaaaa haa...
Joking. You don't have to respond you can just rant, go off on a tangent.

Witchking wrote:I don't trust socialism. I get a lot of what it is supposed to do for humanity, but History has repeatedly shown that socialist models of government don't work as well in reality as they look on paper.

I guess it really comes down to how much social and economic control do you want to live under?

First the pathological far left need to become adults and need to drop the vengeance agenda so that can happen.

Also big tech needs to realize that by censoring people, those conversations can't and won't happen.

I thought Joe Biden was supposed to be a moderate? His statements and actions say something quite different? He has signed 30 executive orders in his first 6 days in office, compared to Obama who signed 2. Clinton signed 1. He claims he wasn't going to govern through the use of Executive order...

Biden also has had several moment where he could have said something to help unify people but he chose to pander to to the pathological left instead.

The difficult conversations have to be had. time to dispense with the positive reinforcement loop we are stuck in and find some neutral ground in which we can at least talk. First the pathological far left need to become adults and need to drop the vengeance agenda so that can happen.

This is unacceptable.

We now need to know more about @RobinhoodApp’s decision to block retail investors from purchasing stock while hedge funds are freely able to trade the stock as they see fit.

As a member of the Financial Services Cmte, I’d support a hearing if necessary. https://t.co/4Qyrolgzyt

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 28, 2021

Fully agree.  https://t.co/rW38zfLYGh

— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) January 28, 2021

I am happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there’s common ground, but you almost had me murdered 3 weeks ago so you can sit this one out.

Happy to work w/ almost any other GOP that aren’t trying to get me killed.

In the meantime if you want to help, you can resign. https://t.co/4mVREbaqqm

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) January 28, 2021

Liberals....sorry but you were lied to. God help you if you're a moderate Liberal, because you will be the first killed and eaten.

Intrinsic wrote:Unity by accountability. Call divisive bullshit for what it is.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1 ... 6843830272" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

aoc angry.jpg

Intrinsic wrote:I think Biden has already ratified SALT.

President Biden is seeking a five-year extension...his administration is preparing to impose new costs on Russia pending a newly requested intelligence assessment of its recent activities.

Biden’s plans for potential punitive actions toward Russia at the outset of the administration is unique among his recent predecessors, all of whom attempted to turn a new page with the Kremlin in the hopes of encouraging a more productive relationship.

The skeptical posture follows four years of growing animus toward the Kremlin within the Democratic Party for its interference in the 2016 election against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Intrinsic wrote:

Butcher Bob wrote:

Intrinsic wrote:Unity by accountability. Call divisive bullshit for what it is.

...bullshit Russiagating...

"russiagate bullshit" whoa, citation?

.
Ahhh so you have chosen to bite already. Wow, that didn't take long. I didn't really think it would. You guys are so predictable.
I

...which could easily be argued caused the divide that made such unrest possible to begin with.
You know, that pesky goose/gander thing. 

Now, aboot holding accountable those who spouted that divisive bullshit...

AOC can go fuk herself. The same could be said aboot the bullshit Russiagating...and she didn't say shit aboot that.

Intrinsic wrote:Ok i Googld: Russiangate Bill Binney.
Boy that was a wasted half hour research.

...which could easily be argued caused the divide that made such unrest possible to begin with.
You know, that pesky goose/gander thing. 

'Easily argue' whata weasel phrase. Don't mean shit.

The division already existed from when Trump was propagating Obama's birth certificate lies.

Butcher Bob originally wrote

AOC can go fuk herself. The same could be said aboot the bullshit Russiagating...and she didn't say shit aboot that.

Hmmm why would she?

Butcher Bob wrote:

Intrinsic wrote:Ok i Googld: Russiangate Bill Binney.
Boy that was a wasted half hour research.

Eh, here you go...

Bill...

Butcher Bob wrote:..
Really?! So it wouldn't have anything to do with a woman who labeled inner city black youth as "super predators"...who later labeled her opponent's supporters as "a basket of deplorables"...and then when she lost, started smearing innocent people with mccarthyistic lies of collusion, helped by her party, the media, and her supporters? That didn't play any role eh?

Yeah, the Dems haven't been divisive at all.

Tell me again, what exactly have Dems done in the last 4 years, beside divide our country with that fabricated nonsense?...aside from handing Trump everything he wanted legislatively and judicially.

Butcher Bob originally wrote

AOC can go fuk herself. The same could be said aboot the bullshit Russiagating...and she didn't say shit aboot that.

Hmmm why would she?

Because it's generally better to be on the side of truth, rather than be a perpetuator of lies.

I had high hopes for AOC, but she just continues to shatter them.

Intrinsic wrote:Dude it's too late, I already said I researche...

Sounds like AOC is on the side of Truth, calling bullshit as bullshit.

Intrinsic wrote:I was engaging our newest member witchking.

Intrinsic wrote:Unity by accountability. Call divisive bullshit for what it is.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AOC/status/1 ... 6843830272" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

aoc angry.jpg

Butcher Bob wrote:AOC can go fuk herself. The same could be said aboot the bullshit Russiagating...and she didn't say shit aboot that.

Intrinsic wrote:Yet another strawman...

Butcher Bob wrote:
only strawman is you bloviating aboot Cruz.

You don't seem to get it. If you want to hold Trump, Cruz, and others accountable for their divisive lying...I am all for that...right after we hold Clinton, Podesta, Maddow, and others accountable for their divisive lying

Intrinsic wrote:I never said I wanted "Trump, Cruz, and others accountable for their divisive lying"

Intrinsic wrote:

...which could easily be argued caused the divide that made such unrest possible to begin with.
You know, that pesky goose/gander thing. 

The division already existed from when Trump was propagating Obama's birth certificate lies. To Trump giving the big lie thst he won the 2020 election.
Lied lied lied about election fraud lied lied lied Lied to the end. The division propagated by his continual lying from birth certificate And ended up in his failed insurrection.

Now, aboot holding accountable those who spouted that divisive bullshit...

That's what I've been saying the guys that caused the insurrection, enabled Trump:
Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Nunes Trump, Barr, Miller Ted Cruz Donald Trump jr., practically the whole GOP Senate, every single newscaster and politicians that told the BigLie, and enabling all of Trump's previous lies. Leading to the big one> insurrection.

That's what I've been saying the guys that caused the insurrection, enabled Trump:
Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, Nunes Trump, Barr, Miller Ted Cruz Donald Trump jr., practically the whole GOP Senate, every single newscaster and politicians that told the BigLie, and enabling all of Trump's previous lies. Leading to the big one> insurrection.

Back to the point after that wasted red herring.
Butcher Bob originally wrote

AOC can go fuk herself. The same could be said aboot the bullshit Russiagating...and she didn't say shit aboot that.

Hmmm why would she? It was Ted Cruz that voted for the big lie after the insurrection.

But blame AOC for the division that led up to the insurrection, blame AOC for Ted Cruz voting for the big lie...

..cuz her tweet didn't include Russiangate.

.. sure makes perfect sense. /s

Intrinsic wrote:Anything to exonerate Ted Cruz's Seditious murderous Behavior eh?

Witchking wrote:...Joe Biden...has signed 30 executive orders in his first 6 days in office, compared to Obama who signed 2. Clinton signed 1. He claims he wasn't going to govern through the use of Executive order, (he said this on national TV), rather he was going to let the legislature do their job ..but yet turns around and start signing them like they're going out of style.

Executive Order 13988
Preventing and Combating Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Sexual Orientation

Every person should be treated with respect and dignity and should be able to live without fear, no matter who they are or whom they love. Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to...school sports.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documen ... rientation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Roots wrote:Biden might be a turd, but Trump is the holding tank of a portal potty on a hot summer day at a chili cook off that used recalled beef and a kid went around spiking the chili with ipecac.

Roots wrote:If only you showed some consistency of how critical you are of Presidents...

Butcher Bob wrote:

Roots wrote:If only you showed some consistency of how critical you are of Presidents...

Critiquing Trump's performance as president, would be like critiquing a five year old's performance in the Olympics. No political experience...numerous, high profile, large scale failures in his career as a businessman...and a well known reputation as a despicable human being...frankly, I'm surprised/relieved things didn't turn out worse than they have.

It amazes me that folks would be critical of things Trump did, while refusing to acknowledge...that it was Hillary that suggested to him to run...that it was Hillary that told her press pals to "pump Trump, dump Bernie"...that it was Hillary, conspiring with DNC officials, committing fraud, cheating Sanders out of the nomination...and that it was Hillary that lost to a completely incompetent boob.

These problems we have right now...none of them were created by Trump...they were created by people like Joe, Mitch, and Nancy.

These problems we have right now...none of them were created by Trump...they were created by people like Joe, Mitch, and Nancy.

bentech wrote:...your TEAM...

Intrinsic wrote:Hillary was not a president.

These problems we have right now...none of them were created by Trump...they were created by people like Joe, Mitch, and Nancy.

You mean like the current problems such as,

...blah, blah, blah...

Butcher Bob wrote:...refusing to acknowledge...

Right on cue...providing the perfect example.

And just how was it possible for Trump to attain a position he had no business being in?...his credentials must have been impeccable, no?...he must be an exceptional person, to gain the highest position in a field he had absolutely no experience in, no?
Keep ignoring the real problems...but then don't complain when things go to shit. 

These problems we have right now...none of them were created by Trump...

Intrinsic wrote:

And just how was it possible for Trump to attain a position he had no business being in?

Trump reached his position because of stupid racist voters and Trump apologist such as yerself refusing to acknowledge it.

Idiot voters elected him. Not Hillary, not nancy, not intrinsic.... but white supremacist and apologist like you.

I don't get what you want me to acknowledge that Hillary is responsible for? Trump being president?

No, that's not true.

That Hillary promoted Trump has a candidate to run against, OK true.

The evidence says you're the one in denial...

First you say he was a failure and despicable, and surprised it wasn't worse.
Then you turn around and say Trump didn't create any problems.

So, you think all the folks that voted Trump are "stupid/idiot racist/white supremacist voters"?

...and that they, along with folks like me that didn't vote for him because we knew he was a terrible choice, got him elected?

If not for Hillary's actions, Trump would have never been president...so yeah, she pushed him over the top.

Denial?...um, let's see...
...2016 election...FAIL
...Russian collusion...FAIL
...impeachment I...FAIL
...impeachment II...FAIL
...getting anything done during Trump's term...FAIL
...stopping Trump's agenda...FAIL
...stopping Trump's judicial appointments...FAIL

. that we've been living with a disbanded pandemic response team. Instead whom gave us Pence?

Which leaders weren't wearing a mask setting a bad example, thus exacerbating our epidemic and consequently economic problems?

Which leaders promoted deregulation on our environmental policies?
Which leaders policy's were that global warming is a hoax?

Which leaders separated children from families completely unnecessarily?

Which leader lead us to a now infamy date of a January 6th insurrection?

Which leaders openly condone white supremacist and police brutality?

Keep talking shit...pointing fingers and calling names...acting like a petulant child...and you're just going to help Trump, 

Intrinsic wrote:...i never said all...

...trump apologist. Even Claiming here Trump was a viable candidate.

It's The voters. stupid voters, we have these things called elections, Remember.

There was Russian collusion, he did it live on national TV.
He was impeached first time
He was impeached the second time
Stopped Trump's agenda by voting him out as a 1 term impeached president.

Intrinsic wrote:They are going to Limit Biden's use of military force.
The guy is already out of control. A maniac.

A blunder by Joe Biden but a big win otherwise.

Intrinsic wrote:Yes a win for the country, it puts the power of Waging War back to Congress as the Constitution intends.

The White House on Friday said it is "committed" to working with Congress on new legislation to repeal current presidential war powers to be replaced with a "narrow and specific framework" to protect U.S. national security, while "ending the forever wars."

The commitment comes after a bipartisan group of senators, led by Sens. Tim Kaine, D-Va., and Todd Young, R-Ind., on Wednesday called for the repeal of presidential war powers granted by Congress in 1991 and 2002, which would revoke authorization for military force in the Middle East, as tensions rise between the U.S. and Iran.

Senators from across the ideological spectrum signed onto the Kaine-Young bill as co-sponsors on Wednesday, including Sens. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Chris Coons (D-Del.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

Intrinsic wrote:

Senators from across the ideological spectrum signed onto the Kaine-Young bill as co-sponsors on Wednesday, including Sens. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Chris Coons (D-Del.) and Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2021/ ... ers-473312" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

because the people that make the rules want it, not some appointees.
The White House wants it.
Members in both houses wants it. bipartisan support.
The American people want it.

Even The warmongers Want it.

Kaine and Young have introduced similar efforts before...

Butcher Bob wrote:Broken promises...

Well, evidently the whole "no deportations for the first 100 day" was a load of crap as well.

Good thing he wasted all that time on 'immigration reform'....instead of getting those checks out.

Intrinsic wrote:Faux talking points. He's too left, Or It's the same as Trump.

Binden's FDR Legacy,



Joe Biden leaked immigration plan.

Intrinsic wrote:Faux talking points.

Intrinsic wrote:I was pre commenting on the videos i presented below.

Didn't know I was obligated to counter your statements, regardless.

Intrinsic wrote:Binden's FDR Legacy,

Joe Biden leaked immigration plan.

rSin wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:41 pm

trump did two things right

didnt missile iran when they shot down our drone in their airspace
like all the generals wanted

and decided to pull out of afganistan


you can BET that in the redux
we will find alot of genreals who made purposely shitty decisions as to the withdrawl

so as to inflate the crisis

and teach any future presidents that they have no business being commander and chief...

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:03 pm

Watching the passionate video I shuddered thinking of rsin's observation from another thread, bold emphasis mine:

rSin wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:41 pm

trump did two things right

didnt missile iran when they shot down our drone in their airspace
like all the generals wanted

and decided to pull out of afganistan


you can BET that in the redux
we will find alot of genreals who made purposely shitty decisions as to the withdrawl

so as to inflate the crisis

and teach any future presidents that they have no business being commander and chief...

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:35 pm

Really, no critiqes of biden anymore?

roller24 wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 27, 2021 7:48 pm

So does Lt. Col. Scheller


resigns commision

Lrus007 wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:12 pm

i guess it is time for the dems to wear brown shirts.
there propaganda is working as planned.
just a note. there are good and bad people.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:15 pm

Careful, Biden's DOJ says speaking contrary to the government's narrative is a terrorist activity.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:39 pm

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:15 pm

Careful, Biden's DOJ says speaking contrary to the government's narrative is a terrorist activity.

Citation.

The Trump administration broke the law by withholding congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine last summer "for a policy reason," a top government watchdog said Thursday.

Trump refused to release the funds to Ukraine at the same time he was pressuring that country's new president to announce investigations of former Vice President Joe Biden and of Biden's son Hunter, who had served on the board of a Ukraine gas company. Joe Biden is the current front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.

The funds were only released after the block on the aid became publicly known, sparking the congressional probe which led to the Republican president's impeachment by the Democratic-controlled House.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:46 pm

Now Joe Biden thinks windmills are the solution.
What is this green deal socialism? Selling off America for $4.37 billion.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:26 pm

And Biden is currently headed to Saudi Arabia to beg them to increase oil production. They told him to fuk off last time...wonder what they'll say this time?

The project summary states that trees up to 20 inches in diameter could be cut down in Yosemite across approximately 2,000 acres and 40 miles of park roads and trails. “In some places, the logging that they’re doing in Yosemite Valley is so intensive, it’s actually clear cutting,” said ecologist Chad Hanson, co-founder and director of the John Muir Project. “They’re actually clear cutting the forest – mature and old forests – in Yosemite Valley.

rSin wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 30, 2022 11:00 pm

cops are fucks...

YOU want to know what I want you to do??
Get the hell out of my party. Go start your own fuckin political party, the seditious caucus or whatever the hell you want to call it

rSin wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:52 am

btw, mo
solyndra fails due to international economic forces entirely outside the presidents administration to for see or control
it was also one investment in a portfolio of such which's success rate FAR outpaced ANYTHING so accomplished by any other administration.

your watching hate niqqer television IF the story of that investment is in your craw.

arb wrote: ↑

Sun Sep 04, 2022 8:46 am

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov
Seems the NIH has changed its tune a bit about the old horse dewormer........goddamn you guys are gullible.
...

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 20, 2022 6:10 am

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:26 pm

And Biden is currently headed to Saudi Arabia to beg them to increase oil production. They told him to fuk off last time...wonder what they'll say this time?

Well, looks like they told him to fuk off...again.

dill786 wrote: ↑

Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:51 pm

i think the rest of the world apart from Europe knows that there's gonna be a worldwide powershift in our lifetime, the US only makes up 4.2% of the world's population, and western Europe makes up 2.52% its CHINA, eastern Europe ( russia+india+stan countries) that are going to come into play and the Saudis know it....

smokebreaks wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:25 am

The US Market is where these foreign entities need to sell their wares and the current supply chain woes and the economic uncertainty...is driving up demand leading to scarcity and creating artificially inflated good prices.

What if Biden were to say fuck it, just lift the sanctions and let Venezuela turn on the Chevron pumps again.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm

...inflation...
...it is a direct result of an oversaturation of USD in the markets, due to US sanctions, and loss of control of the petrodollar.

2021:
Jan...1.4%
Feb...1.7%
Mar...2.6%
Apr...4.2%
May...5.0%
Jun...5.4%
Jul...5.4%
Aug...5.3%
Sep...5.4%
Oct...6.2%
Nov...6.8%
Dec...7.0%
2022:
Jan...7.5%
Feb...7.9%
Mar...8.5%
Apr...8.3%
May...8.6%
Jun...9.1%
Jul...8.5%
Aug...8.3%
Sep...8.2%
Oct...7.7%

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 18, 2022 2:14 pm

Up to 8.5% now (20.5% by 1980's calculation standards)
Last saw that during Carter...
...remember the gas lines and interest rates back then?
Better get that under control...or things could get ugly quick.

...Skyrocketing credit card rates
Published: Nov. 21, 2022, 8:00 a.m.
By Lindsay Moore

The nationally average credit card rate is at 19.14%...highest rate...ever recorded since...1985.
The national average of credit card rates started this year at 16.30%...
"...chances are your credit card rate has moved even more than the national average,”...
...54% of active credit card holders carried a balance in the last quarter of 2022...
...27% of shoppers will go into debt this season.
...40% said inflation will change the way they shop this season.
...credit card balances hit record highs this year, according to the quarterly reports from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
The November report showed a 15% increase in card balances, the largest increase in the last 18 years.
Credit cards are the most prevalent type of debt in the U.S. according to The Fed.
About 73% of Americans have a credit card by age 25 and half of all American adults have at least two cards. For those under 30, their balances are now above where they were pre-pandemic.
...more than 43% Americans have used a buy now, pay later service, up from 31% the year before.
Among them 42% reported being late on their payments.

https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2 ... rates.html

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:54 am

"...chances are your credit card rate has moved even more than the national average,”...
The chances, the probability, is exactly 50%. Kind of stupid. Doesn't understand how averages work.
you have exactly 50/50 chance being below or above the average.

...54% of active credit card holders carried a balance in the last quarter of 2022...
Yes that's how credit cards are work, but is a meaningless stat unless you compare it to other years.

...27% of shoppers will go into debt this season.
Uh huh. Every year xmas Shoppers go in cc debt. It's an American cliche. Good to see it predicted to go down this year. Maybe it's from Bidens efforts to get rid of all the hidden and excess fees.

...40% said inflation will change the way they shop this season.
Every fucking year. Checking over-consumerism is a good thing.

...credit card balances hit record highs this year, according to the quarterly reports from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York
So people misusing thier credit cards is POTUS fault. Gotcha.

rSin wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:35 pm

gas is back down under 5bucks here
was over 6 bucks 6 weeks ago

MadMoonMan wrote: ↑

Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:10 pm

It's all about power money etc.... men live how long? Then they die. So some like the Caesars gloried in their statues to perpetuate their might and power. Rest in Peace. Oh glorious leaders of lore. Shielded from your odious deeds in life will find you out in your demise.

Rest in Peace oh Odious Ones.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm

smokebreaks wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:25 am

The US Market is where these foreign entities need to sell their wares and the current supply chain woes and the economic uncertainty...is driving up demand leading to scarcity and creating artificially inflated good prices.

What if Biden were to say fuck it, just lift the sanctions and let Venezuela turn on the Chevron pumps again.

Let's update the inflation data...

2021:
Jan...1.4%
Feb...1.7%
Mar...2.6%
Apr...4.2%
May...5.0%
Jun...5.4%
Jul...5.4%
Aug...5.3%
Sep...5.4%
Oct...6.2%
Nov...6.8%
Dec...7.0%
2022:
Jan...7.5%
Feb...7.9%
Mar...8.5%
Apr...8.3%
May...8.6%
Jun...9.1%
Jul...8.5%
Aug...8.3%
Sep...8.2%

Is that "artificial"?

No, it is not...it is a direct result of an oversaturation of USD in the markets, due to US sanctions, and loss of control of the petrodollar. If it were artificial, we would see a corresponding deflationary period to correct it...but that's not going to happen, these increases are permanent.

If Biden dropped sanctions against Venezuela, it wouldn't be Chevron pumping oil...it would be PDVSA.
...and that would not fix the USD problem...it would aggravate it.

I'm thinking it's very likely we will see a third quarter of GDP contraction when the report comes out later this month.

smokebreaks wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:06 pm

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 3:47 pm

smokebreaks wrote: ↑

Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:25 am

What if Biden were to say fuck it, just lift the sanctions and let Venezuela turn on the Chevron pumps again.

If Biden dropped sanctions against Venezuela, it wouldn't be Chevron pumping oil...it would be PDVSA.
...and that would not fix the USD problem...it would aggravate it.

Guess we’re gonna see how that plays out.


U.S. Eases Sanctions on Venezuela With Chevron Resuming Oil Output
https://time.com/6236995/venezuela-us-e ... s-chevron/

rSin wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:05 pm

and yet gas is down 2 bucks in 6 weeks here,

these prices arent tracking oil comodities...

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 21, 2022 1:04 pm

Gasoline prices are still the highest I've ever paid.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:26 pm

...MMT is the economic policy Biden adopted...so expect inflation to continue to rise.

At a time when the US should be tightening it's fiscal belt, it is my understanding that US has given $57 billion to Ukraine just this year...

rSin wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:52 pm

but isnt the workers labor constantly creating value which must be matched by some currency increase otherwise the growth would be deflationary?

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:56 pm

Did things remain constant??

I was under the understanding one can indeed increase the amount of money available if you have the natural resources to back it up...

as for aid to Ukraine we didn't give them the money, we gave them goods and services, the money stayed here

but isnt the workers labor constantly creating value which must be matched by some currency increase otherwise the growth would be deflationary?

Yes...is it a bad thing to have deflationary factors?
...because those gains are not economically transferred on in the form of wages.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:11 pm

...it didn't come from our pockets if it was created Out thin air right!

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:06 pm

Right, you agreed didn't take anything out of the pocket, If thin air

What do you mean control the markets, so??

Furthermore under yes bad illustration I would still have 60% control of the markets if it means anything worthwhile

rSin wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:25 pm

my point is that you can print hundreds of billions and still not overcome this deflationary force.

we can stop borrowing this new money into existence anytime by simply printing differently you know.

and ive heard there is a provision in the federal reserve act which allows the government to at will to repurchase the debt it owns for a paltry amount.

Roots wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:59 pm

You don’t even know how the math works in your example.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:11 pm

More natural resources than gold, or even minerals in general. Timber, water, surface area, oil, energy..
and has been pointed out human work is also a natural resource.

The point is the money goes to create more jobs, it didn't come from our pockets if it was created Out thin air right!

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:38 pm

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:11 pm

...it didn't come from our pockets if it was created Out thin air right!

To illustrate...
You have 60 units of money...the total money supply is 60 units...
...therefore you have 100% of the money, which gives you 100% control of the markets.
Then I come along and create 40 units of money 'out of thin air'...
...now giving me 40% of the money and therefore 40% of the markets.
But I didn't take anything from your pockets.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 8:59 pm

Wow.....we really should be including this material in K-12 education.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 3:06 pm

Right, you agreed didn't take anything out of the pocket, If thin air

What do you mean control the markets, so??

Furthermore under yes bad illustration I would still have 60% control of the markets if it means anything worthwhile

Sorry, the sarcasm doesn't come thru in text. Just showing that even though none of your units have been taken, 40% of their value has been.

Markets function by way of money (unless you're strictly barter), therefore if you control all the money, then by default you control all the markets. This is why stuff like petrodollar/oil markets and world reserve currency/world markets are so important.

You are failing to recognize that 40% of your value has been taken, without taking any of your units.
out is the inflationary effect to individuals, when their government adds a shit ton to the money supply.

MadMoonMan wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:38 pm

The true problem is you can't stop printing. It's not only too late. The whole market system is based on a continuing inflationary system. Devaluation of the dollar.. or "whatever" Inflation is a control the old frog in a warm pot of water. lllllll

The whole world system is a governmental pyramid scheme.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:20 pm

Well you totally lost me it sounds like gibberish. "Thin air money" goes into the economy. I benefit from a increased economy, more jobs, increased infrastructure, more people able to patronize my business, how do I have less? I would have less if there was predatory price gouging.

Again: What do you mean by controll of the market?

Prawn Connery wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 10:38 pm

MadMoonMan wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:38 pm

The true problem is you can't stop printing. It's not only too late. The whole market system is based on a continuing inflationary system. Devaluation of the dollar.. or "whatever" Inflation is a control the old frog in a warm pot of water. lllllll

The whole world system is a governmental pyramid scheme.

Out with the Full Moon I see? You are, of course, correct about our economic model being based on a pyramid scheme. Everything relies on ever-increasing asset inflation – it's the only way constant borrowing can work. Then one day it all comes crashing down.

OTTAWA, Ontario (AP) — Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Saturday that on his order a U.S. fighter jet shot down an unidentified object that was flying high over the Yukon, acting a day after the U.S. took similar action over Alaska.

North American Aerospace Defense Command, the combined U.S.-Canada organization that provides shared defense of airspace over the two nations, said it had detected an object flying at a high altitude over northern Canada. It wasn’t immediately clear how high up it was flying or what it was.

Trudeau said he also spoke with President Joe Biden, who himself ordered the downing of an unidentified object over remote Alaska on Friday.

A spokesman, Maj. Olivier Gallant, said both Canadian and U.S. jets operating as part of NORAD had been deployed. The jets were scrambled and it was a U.S. jet that shot it down.

F-22 fighter jets have now downed three objects in the airspace above the U.S. and Canada over seven days, a stunning development in the skies that is raising questions on just what, exactly, is hovering overhead and who has sent them.

Lrus007 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:20 pm

also have to wonder if this is a distraction.

while the biden white house and china
are each doing underhanded shit.

pickpocket * look a balloon points up.
snags wallet and walks away..

The takeaway from the UFOs being shot down over Lake Michigan & Lake Huron today is that Ohio has been poisoned, not by aliens but by our own government. Animals are dying. The toxins are in our ground and water. Reporters your being arrested for reporting. This affects us all, not just Ohio.

@choc1012
Intentional -deregulation enabled the company to skirt getting brakes that would make their trains safer. Company lobbied Trump admin. Trump admin removed the substance from highly flammable list. Cheaper transport. But hey! Shareholders $$

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:15 pm

Joe biden owns this blunder. the railroad safety concerns were made to during the strike that he busted up.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:09 am

Pete Buttigieg - Secretary of Transportation
...evidently Joe thinks doing a small town main street beautification project qualifies you to oversee the nation's transportation infrastructure.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 13, 2023 2:20 am

I count 14 bank failures under Trump.
I count 4 under Biden
According to the FDIC
I think it happens under all presidents.

Intrinsic wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 14, 2023 11:02 am

The Biden administration’s approves of a massive oil development in northern Alaska. Yet another decades long disastrous project.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 01, 2023 12:20 pm

"A Biden administration ban on incandescent lights bulbs starts Aug. 1. On that day, Americans will only be able to purchase LED lights from retailers due to Department of Energy requirements that manufacturers only make and sell energy-efficient light emitting diode, or LED, light bulbs. LED bulbs, while more expensive, last 25-50 times longer and use less electricity."
https://www.mlive.com/news/2023/08/us-b ... aug-1.html



Odd...my personal experience is that the LEDs cost 10x as much, and last aboot the same length of time as an incandescent.

Prawn Connery wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:41 am

There are filament bulbs that have been burning continuously for over 120 years!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light

Prawn Connery wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:58 am

I doubt the US Prez has time to go to dog training, but its mostly true there are no bad dogs, only bad owners. However, dogs are like people - they come in all colours and personalities – and some have bad histories making them more pre-disposed to being fear-aggressive, whilst others are bred to bite.

I own service-bred dogs and I do protection training with them. They are pretty serious dogs. One of the problems we encounter with some dogs is that they don't want to bite. Or they won't bite under pressure. Or won't bite when confronted. You'd be surprised how few dogs will really bite – and hang on – when put under pressure, in a real confrontational situation.

When you find a dog that does bite under pressure, we say that dog "bites for real". You can train dogs to bite almost anything, but they are only doing it for fun, not "for real".

Here's one of mine. Note the equipment. This bitch is mean and will bite anyone who walks through the door – invited or uninvited – unless I tell her not to. That's the key: you need to teach these dogs NOT to bite – which goes against their natural instincts.

Bities.jpeg

I love this bitch, but I also have a male dog who is a machine. He's bitten me a few times in training (by accident) and gone down to the bone. He's the most beautiful dog when he's your friend, but he has a switch and can crush bones when he gets the command.

You cannot let these dogs off leash at any time unless you have voice command control over them, and that takes time and training.

roller24 wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 06, 2023 2:22 pm

Not posting for any other reason than a sample of Joe not in command of his pet.
Joe should have cats, or a chihuahua.

Prawn Connery wrote: ↑

Fri Oct 06, 2023 4:58 am

I doubt the US Prez has time to go to dog training, but its mostly true there are no bad dogs, only bad owners. However, dogs are like people - they come in all colours and personalities – and some have bad histories making them more pre-disposed to being fear-aggressive, whilst others are bred to bite.

I own service-bred dogs and I do protection training with them. They are pretty serious dogs. One of the problems we encounter with some dogs is that they don't want to bite. Or they won't bite under pressure. Or won't bite when confronted. You'd be surprised how few dogs will really bite – and hang on – when put under pressure, in a real confrontational situation.

When you find a dog that does bite under pressure, we say that dog "bites for real". You can train dogs to bite almost anything, but they are only doing it for fun, not "for real".

Here's one of mine. Note the equipment. This bitch is mean and will bite anyone who walks through the door – invited or uninvited – unless I tell her not to. That's the key: you need to teach these dogs NOT to bite – which goes against their natural instincts.

Bities.jpeg

I love this bitch, but I also have a male dog who is a machine. He's bitten me a few times in training (by accident) and gone down to the bone. He's the most beautiful dog when he's your friend, but he has a switch and can crush bones when he gets the command.

You cannot let these dogs off leash at any time unless you have voice command control over them, and that takes time and training.

smokebreaks wrote: ↑

Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:22 pm

I have a girlfriend who owns a Belgian Malinois. Aggressively fucking attacks everything… get a chuck-it and throw a tennis ball fucking dog is gone.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:48 am

President Biden came out slamming drugs and addiction with no mention of cannabis legalization

rSin wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:19 pm

had the oppertunity to meet a number of cartel subs in colorado
taked of day jobs in shipping containers processing blocks of fentanyl into powder using industrial blenders

wft?!??!

must have been stepped on already as no respirator in the world would save them from kissing off in that scenario...

Can fentanyl be absorbed through the skin or by touching an item or surface where it is present?
It is a common misconception that fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin, but it is not true for casual exposure. You can't overdose on fentanyl by touching a doorknob or dollar bill. The one case in which fentanyl can be absorbed through the skin is with a special doctor-prescribed fentanyl skin patch, and even then, it takes hours of exposure.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlin ... in/2022/10

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:10 am

Biden... the first sitting president to suggest removing it from schedule one... and looky there, I don't have to pretend it.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:20 am

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:48 am

President Biden came out slamming drugs and addiction with no mention of cannabis legalization

..."financial banking protections" that were all that Obama did, in his eight years.

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:17 am

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:10 am

Biden... the first sitting president to suggest removing it from schedule one... and looky there, I don't have to pretend it.

You are fukking delusional...Biden suggested no such thing.

But I guess that shouldn't surprise me...you can't even get a quote right...

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:20 am

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:48 am

President Biden came out slamming drugs and addiction with no mention of cannabis legalization

I didn't say that...Thom Baccus at cannabis.net did.

And what is marijuana currently classified as?...Schedule 1.

Oh, and the...

..."financial banking protections" that were all that Obama did, in his eight years.

...weren't a fukking thing either...
Changes Needed to Protect Banking and Financial Services When Dealing with the Marijuana Industry
August 04, 2016

Un-fukking-believable...your lacking.

For the first time ever, a sitting United States President has acknowledged the failure of cannabis criminalization and pledged to take bold action to address it. It is particularly notable that this came from Joe Biden, a politician who has traditionally been among the biggest drug warriors in the Democratic Party and largely seen as among the least supportive of marijuana reform among modern Democrats.
~~~••
Longtime cannabis reform advocates from organizations like the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the Marijuana Policy Project, and the Drug Policy Alliance, along with cannabis industry trade groups like the National Cannabis Industry Association have praised President Biden for this historic announcement. And rightly so, given their decades of activism and advocacy that helped create the current political climate that led longtime drug warrior Joe Biden to make the political calculation that a major marijuana reform announcement would be good politics less than one month from a major midterm election.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:34 am

You should pipe down!
I think alot of the problem with maga types is...

WASHINGTON – The Justice Department sent a shiver of uncertainty through the now-thriving legal marijuana industry Thursday by rescinding Obama administration policies not to interfere with state laws allowing people to use pot for medical and recreational uses.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions characterized the dramatic policy shift as a "return to the rule of law" in a memo outlining the change

Later Thursday, White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said President Trump supported the action. "The president strongly believes that we should enforce federal law," which recognizes marijuana as illegal, Sanders said. However, the comment stands in contrast to what Trump said on the campaign trail: that marijuana legalization was an issue that should be left up to the states.

The move sowed new unpredictability into an industry that has flourished largely because federal prosecutors have maintained this hands-off approach.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:06 am

"Pipe down" doesn't necessarily mean to shut up but rather to calm down and/or lower your tone. It was appropriate because you were ranting over next to nothing

Now analyze this one!

Butcher Bob wrote: ↑

Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:05 pm

Oh, and Kamala is just another Biden blunder.
Fukking embarrassment she is.
Name anything she's done that hasn't been a failure or made her look like an adjunct simpleton.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 6:16 pm

This is about Biden’s supposed "presidential blunders"...not ancient history Senator or maybe high school? Ffs.
You're quoting Biden when it's the Union leader who spoke?

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:05 pm

...proof of a Biden accomplishment...

roller24 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:11 pm

...the union president admitted that a "great majority" would not be voting for Biden in the 2024 presidential election.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:59 pm

Roller as far as the majority claim statement...who knows? That's just a prediction at this point.

ripper5 wrote: ↑

Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:05 pm

Biden also is the 1st sitting president to ask for an evaluation into rescheduling our favorite flower of peace. It is now under serious consideration.