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ben ttech wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:38 pm
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They did similar in the Floyd riots by calling them "mostly peaceful protests" which by any observer, were not.

that is utter horseshit
and you know it
19 dead is utter bullshit?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unres ... 4be8706d7a
Property damage estimates resulting from arson, vandalism and looting ranged from $1 to $2 billion, eclipsing the highest inflation adjusted total from the LA riots of Rodney King days.

Those racist blinders keep you from seeing anything you wish not to ben.

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roller24 wrote:
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Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 3:36 pm
"The two questions about rebuttal witnesses, and cross examinations were certainly answered."

Where? All I see is rational for: why the question was asked?

Yeah I'm dense could you do a cut and paste in the A: column
Q: Why would there be rebuttal Witnesses?
A:

You know I don't really care it was rhetorical. Demonstrating no rational answer is possible. As would be your argument. Please spare me the rationale "Witnesses weren't called". Sheeesh some are subpoenaed and refused to give testomony. Tap tap..
As far as your J6 questions, The two questions were a quote to demonstrate that critics perceived the committee as heavily lopsided with no allowance for exculpatory information to be brought forth or explored. However, many congressional hearings include witness from the opposing side to provide testimony in which to contradict or clarify accusations and circumstances of subject.
The cross examination would come from the members of congress during their questions of inquiry.
Exactly. And that's why many of the Witnesses interviewed was to confirm previous Witnessess' testimony.

As noted Jim Jordan who was in contact with Trump on j6, also including,
Former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows,
Former Trump chief strategist Stephen Bannon,
All who would be good 'rebuttal' Witnesses.

They're refused voluntary request and then they refuse a lawful subpoena request
And that's why I don't want to hear your bullshit rationalization "The cross examination would come from the members of congress during their questions of inquiry"

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18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
This is not cited in your list of charges."
Right right so you didn't read the context leading to "based on this conduct" if this was an insurrection under legal speak.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-di ... 76644.html

How about a real trial to legally verify if Trump is guilty of insurrection or not?
You're not in favor of trump having his say in court for such serious charges? Hell those charges were changed to accommodate The new SC presidential immunity decision, hence two grand juries.

And with him above the law and all :popcorn:

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The Senate acquitted Trump of incitement.
The indictment left out the charge because they would have to prove "incitement"
Second, the impeachment proceedings charged Defendant with “Incitement of Insurrection,” which is not charged in the Indictment. See Opp'n to Constitutional Motion at 60–62 (citing H.R. Res. 24, 117th Cong. (Jan. 11, 2021)). Although there are few decisions interpreting the analogous federal statute that prohibits inciting “any ․ insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof,” 18 U.S.C. § 2383, it is well-established that “incitement” typically means “advocacy ․ directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action” that is “likely to incite or produce such action,” Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444, 447 (1969). None of the statutes under which Defendant is charged require the Government to prove incitement. See 18 U.S.C. §


The issue is that incitement could not be proved in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt.
This is due to the fact that Trump never used any language that pass that barrier. The word "Fight" is used quite commonly by politicians. The language used by Trump was no stronger than any other politician in speeches.
He even said "March peacefully and patriotically to the capital", which could hardly be derived as inciteful.
There was no language such as "storm" or "breach" or "break into" .
He also less than an hour after the protest began, tweeted this.
“Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”
And:
“I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”

Like I said, it wasn't an insurrection. You can throw any label on a can of beans you want, but when the can is open, it's still just beans.
The j6 held back exculpatory evidence in their star chamber hearing, which would not be allowed in a courtroom.

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What wasn't an insurrection, the j6 riot or Trump's scheme with the fake electoral votes?
Cuz Congress only addressed the first.
His criminal indictments for insurrection addressed the second.

Are you even aware of the fake electoral scheme and the players?

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Intrinsic knows better than Jack.

:roflmao:

That TDS just won't let you admit when you're wrong. :p

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I know better than Jack of what?

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Trinny doesn't know Jack.
meanwhile in Georgia...

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Doesn't know what?

And you still don't know what the Fake Electoral scheme was to overturn the election results thus gain unlawful control of the presidency. Hint it didn't have anything to do with the j6 riots.
Whoopsie.
"Are you even aware of the fake electoral scheme and the players?"

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biden should send out the troops

arrest trump and all his proposed and their supporters


then line them the fuck up and shoot the lot dead.
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