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Butcher Bob wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:32 pm
Intrinsic wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:19 pm
"Biden pardons thousands convicted of minor federal marijuana offenses"
That is a blatant lie.
You do know the government discloses all pardons, right?
Please show the proof for your lie.
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Dumfuk still can't figure out how to use Google search.

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'Biden pardons thousands of drug users'
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Why would I use outside sources? :confused:
You did and look where it's got you...just blindly repeating lies. :facepalm:
Try getting your info from the actual source...

Pardons Granted by President Joseph Biden (2021-Present)
I count three on the list.

And there is an open application process for marijuana pardons...
Presidential Proclamation on Marijuana Possession, Attempted Possession, and Use
...the Office of the Pardon Attorney has issued 257 certificates of pardon.

Grand total of 260....a far cry from "thousands". :roll:


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Biden admin quietly clears away border wall parts for auction ahead of Trump’s second term

The Biden administration is reportedly spending its final weeks quietly clearing away unused southern border wall materials to put up for auction — a move characterized by some lawmakers as an apparent ploy to sabotage President-elect Donald Trump’s goal to secure the US-Mexico border.

Alarming footage taken by a US Customs agent captured numerous flatbed trucks hauling away dismantled sections of the steel wall near Tucson, Arizona — a hotspot for illegal crossings — with the agent estimating a half-mile’s worth of parts are being removed daily, “They are taking it from three sections: Nogales, Tucson, and Three Points,” the agent, who spoke under the condition of anonymity, told the outlet. “The goal is to move all of it off the border before Christmas.”

The materials are being transported to Pinal Airpark in Marana, Arizona, where it’s being sold through GovPlanet, an online auction house specializing in military surplus, with bidding starting at just $5.
Online auctions for the parts — listed as Steel Bollard Wall Sections w/Grout — already happened this month, with another scheduled for Dec. 18.
The materials were left unused following President Biden’s decision to stop the wall’s construction and roll back Trump’s immigration policies upon taking office in 2021, resulting in a massive surge of illegal immigrants and unaccompanied minors crossing the southern border.

Up to $300 million worth of taxpayer-funded wall components have been left to rust since Biden came to office, Republicans have said, condemning the Democratic president for worsening the migrant crisis.
Now lawmakers believe this effort to sell the wall leftovers — which the Biden administration also did last August — will undermine Trump’s plan to secure the southern border.

“The Biden Administration is well aware they shouldn’t have reversed the construction of the border wall,” Rep. Eli Crane (R-Ariz.) told the Daily Wire.

“If it’s true, they’re purposefully hamstringing an incoming president, it wouldn’t be shocking. Why would they want to see President Trump succeed with policies they aggressively sabotaged.”
“When Trump comes back, and he wants to start the border wall all over again, the whole entire funding fight is gonna happen again,” the border agent told the outlet.

“That’s their play. He’s gonna have to fight for this — again.”
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Butcher Bob wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:04 pm
Why would I use outside sources? :confused:
You did and look where it's got you...just blindly repeating lies. :facepalm:
Try getting your info from the actual source...

Pardons Granted by President Joseph Biden (2021-Present)
I count three on the list.

And there is an open application process for marijuana pardons...
Presidential Proclamation on Marijuana Possession, Attempted Possession, and Use
...the Office of the Pardon Attorney has issued 257 certificates of pardon.

Grand total of 260....a far cry from "thousands". :roll:

Wrong actual government source. Currently updated. December 12, 2024:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... nt-list-7/

Okay not thousands, yet, on drug related but 18 are newly listed parrdons listed for drug charges, they're still over a thousand commuted that aren't listed to what the crimes are, just names. And the Biden claims they're not done.

Whatever I guess that's a blunder in yer book pardoning anyone on War on Drugs.

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Let's recall your original statement...
Intrinsic wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:19 pm
"Biden pardons thousands convicted of minor federal marijuana offenses"
...because after being called out for lying, you are now trying to change your story...
Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:32 am
Wrong actual government source. Currently updated. December 12, 2024:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... nt-list-7/

Okay not thousands, yet, on drug related but 18 are newly listed parrdons listed for drug charges...
First off, that source is for clemency, not pardons...which is why they are listed separately, because they are not the same thing.

Secondly, we're not talking aboot "drug charges, we're talking aboot "federal marijuana offences. Most of the "drug" pardons are for crack/cocaine...and I'd bet most of the clemencies as well. Christ, more people have been pardoned for meth than marijuana. Joe's doing this over the guilt that it was his fukking crime bill that put most of those folks there to begin with...not because he's a marijuana advocate. For over half a century Biden has been a staunch opponent of marijuana. He is a detestable human being for his actions and now you want to whitewash him using lies.

Why are you not willing to accept the truth?...especially when it's laid in plain view for you. :dunno:

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Butcher Bob wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 11:46 am
Let's recall your original statement...
Intrinsic wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:19 pm
"Biden pardons thousands convicted of minor federal marijuana offenses"
...because after being called out for lying, you are now trying to change your story...
Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:32 am
Wrong actual government source. Currently updated. December 12, 2024:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... nt-list-7/

Okay not thousands, yet, on drug related but 18 are newly listed parrdons listed for drug charges...
First off, that source is for clemency, not pardons...which is why they are listed separately, because they are not the same thing.

Secondly, we're not talking aboot "drug charges, we're talking aboot "federal marijuana offences. Most of the "drug" pardons are for crack/cocaine...and I'd bet most of the clemencies as well. Christ, more people have been pardoned for meth than marijuana. Joe's doing this over the guilt that it was his fukking crime bill that put most of those folks there to begin with...not because he's a marijuana advocate. For over half a century Biden has been a staunch opponent of marijuana. He is a detestable human being for his actions and now you want to whitewash him using lies.

Why are you not willing to accept the truth?...especially when it's laid in plain view for you. :dunno:
Okay bucko here's the raw facts over Biden's whole term ...so far

Marijuana Possession Pardons: In October 2022, Biden issued a proclamation pardoning approximately 6,500 individuals who had been convicted of simple possession of cannabis under federal or Washington, DC law. This was expanded in December 2023 to include offenses as attempted possession and use of cannabis, potentially affecting thousands more.


In additional President Biden also granted clemency for a variety of non-violent drug offenses.
On April 24, 2024, he pardoned 11 individuals and commuted the sentences of 5 others for non-violent drug crimes.Additionally, in December 2024, he granted 39 pardons, including for non-violent drug crimes, which included an Indianapolis woman, Emily Good Nelson, for offenses committed nearly 20 years ago.

You're letting your Biden derangement syndrome blind you. :popcorn:

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Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:43 pm
Marijuana Possession Pardons: In October 2022, Biden issued a proclamation pardoning approximately 6,500 individuals who had been convicted of simple possession of cannabis under federal or Washington, DC law. This was expanded in December 2023 to include offenses as attempted possession and use of cannabis, potentially affecting thousands more.
Well that sounds vaguely familiar.
Oh that's right, from the source I gave...

"On October 6, 2022, President Biden issued a presidential proclamation that pardoned many federal and D.C. offenses for simple marijuana possession offenses. On December 22, 2023, President Biden issued another proclamation that expanded the relief provided by the original proclamation. The December 2023 proclamation adds to the list of pardoned offenses the following: offenses under federal law for attempted possession of marijuana; additional offenses under the D.C. Code for simple marijuana possession; and violations of certain sections of the Code of Federal Regulations involving simple marijuana possession and use. The December 2023 proclamation also extends the original proclamation by pardoning offenses for simple possession of marijuana in violation of federal law prior to December 22, 2023. Both the October 2022 and December 2023 proclamations apply only to federal offenses, including violations of the U.S. Code, the D.C. Code, and the Code of Federal Regulations."
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/presiden ... possession

Except for a couple additions you've made, which I've highlighted in red.
Liar liar, pants on fire...eh. :roflmao:

And since you want to keep pointing to clemencies, which are not pardons, at least point out which ones are for marijuana and not crack/cocaine, meth, and heroin. You know, to be fair in judging the accuracy of what you said....or are you unable to do that? :innocent:

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You're wrong I'm pointing out only pardons:
Biden pardons thousands convicted of minor federal marijuana offenses.

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Intrinsic wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:19 pm
"Biden's Commutations...
Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 3:32 am
Wrong actual government source. Currently updated. December 12, 2024:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo ... nt-list-7/

...over a thousand commuted...
Intrinsic wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2024 6:43 pm
In additional President Biden also granted clemency...
...but yet you claim...
Intrinsic wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:53 pm
You're wrong I'm pointing out only pardons:
Biden pardons thousands convicted of minor federal marijuana offenses.
:roflmao:

Where's your source for those "thousands" of pardons?...we're still waiting. :whistle:

I've given the official government record...yet you can't seem to accept that.
You just keep repeating your lie, and repeating your lie, and repeating your lie...
I guess we'll just mark you down as a liar that can't be believed. :dunno:

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