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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:39 pm
by deran
got an 555 sql error

5 minutes ago ... lasted 5 minutes

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:41 pm
by deran
responsivness got slower

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:43 pm
by bentech
ya, i caught that too


hey deran!
were you on that little site http://www.mymarijuanagrow.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that was around for a couple years around the time planetganja.com showed up??

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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:15 pm
by deran
no that wasnt me

you should know the name deran is more or less a common name in some parts of serbia, meaning dude, and literally meaning young stallion. Its often used online (today - FB is full of it for example) but back then only a few were online, and even less were growing indoors, no need with that climate down there, and even less of those have a clue about most stuff ...

so im kinda of badly surprised to learn today that i wasnt the first "growing deran" online ... FUCK ... especially when talking about the serbian corner .... but what ive learned throughout the years online, deran is a often used name within the states, and i mean name , not handle/avartar whatever, and bc more n more idiots show up online with their real names, the word deran has become a hard term to google , 10 years ago you could only find me, now ive become invisible due to a multitude of derans out there

been on:
marihuana.com - with a totaly different handle (i liked the fact that you got free email, and its a nice email domain for some things hehe)
vutra.org - the ex-yugoslavia grow forums , with the handle i had at overgrow
overgrow and CW , i do remember my OG handle, but im not sure if the CW handle was the same or another i dont remember
(first?) old flying dutchmen forum - talked to eddie online with a handle i dont know anymore today lol
havent had a handle at high times, but i confess that i had one at marc emmerys Cannabis Culture site
when OG and CW went down, Ray shortly after that founded the now existing Cannabis World, where i still have a handle which i dont remember, with a password i dont remember and a registred email addy i dont remember as well ... i might even have posted 10 posts or less ... lol ...

yeah, thats a part of my weed online CW for further references , missing the most important activities you are aware of already lol

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:38 am
by Prawn Connery
Aren't you in Germany?
bentech wrote:hey deran!
were you on that little site http://www.mymarijuanagrow.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that was around for a couple years around the time planetganja.com showed up??
You mean myganjagrow - roller's old site?

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:39 am
by bentech
no, i meant 3xn0's site
and now that i think about it
it was up and running during OG's last year

it was running on a 64bit spark server sitting on the floor in his apartment

heh

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:14 pm
by Prawn Connery
myganjagrow.com - that was X3NO and roller's site after sharkstank.com and before PG

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:46 pm
by bentech
thanks prawn; i didnt realize rollers involvement

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:58 pm
by deran
Prawn Connery wrote:Aren't you in Germany?
bentech wrote:hey deran!
were you on that little site http://www.mymarijuanagrow.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; that was around for a couple years around the time planetganja.com showed up??
You mean myganjagrow - roller's old site?
yep, im in (west) berlin , but i lived also in serbia for some years, while my time as a student at the university, actually i was in serbia the whole time while the war lasted, from 92/93 to 02/03 with some small breaks in between, so yes im a serbian war hero ... survived 500 plants on parole

but thanks to inet, we are all living in a small globalized world, which is so small, that it spans space between your puter and the modem/router ... lol :D

actually it started with overgrow in their "ex-YU-liga" forum, although hosted on OG, those growers there didnt knew shit, so i started helping them within the threads .. the same im doing still today in here and somewhere else :D and one step led to another and suddenly i got a handle at https://www.vutra.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and bam i was screwd ... you may ask why .... well .. if the knowledge of the noob and the pro is too far apart, you will get booted as a liar or a phantast, so i quit there as fast as i started, its just impossible to carry out arguments among ignorants, so i went back to OG

1 thing tho really pisses me off, all ppl in serbia have a exeptionally well knowledge of the english language, bc when you watch movies, they are all original (english) with subtitles, so you must choose : either watch the movie or read the lines and miss the movie ....
in germany everything is syncronized on german .... and germans have a poor knowledge of english
and what pisses me off : the serbian ppl with more english "power" have less clue, than german ppl without english "powers" and difficulties for foreign languages ...
and vutra.org is a prime example of ignorancy, the biggest forum in that language, but the level of growing is like in a kindergarden, they could if they wanted to, but they dont want to; the germans on the other side, they can, tho they dont know .. so whos now crazy ??? besides me ? : lol

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:10 am
by Prawn Connery
I see it all the time - ignorance. It's just a form of mental laziness: it is easier to believe what you have always believed than it is to exercise an open mind.

Accepting new ideas - on the basis of understanding them - takes a lot of work. Maybe it's just that conservative-minded people are so physically and mentally tired enduring the daily drudge of their lives tat they just don't have the energy to expend. Maybe they just spend so much time thinking about themselves that they don't have time for other people's ideas . . .

One thing I do know: progressives always win. Because today's conservative was yesterday's progressive.

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:34 am
by Prawn Connery
bentech wrote:thanks prawn; i didnt realize rollers involvement
No worries. Roller's the man! :gadday:

He was the one who set up sharkstank.com when OG closed the original Tank - teaching himself to code along the way - which is pretty much how we all ended up on the crazy path that has led us here. My drug-addled memory is not up to remembering exactly how X3NO got involved (maybe roller can enlighten us), but I seem to recall roller got an offer from him to help set up a new and slicker site which became myganjagrow.com - the "black site" - which was around the end of 2003/beginning 2004. Gad started working on PG later that year.

Early 2004 was a pretty mad time for me, moving countries and starting a new life with a new wife (we're still married, bless her - best thing I ever did), so I didn't spend a lot of time online then - though I did start my first bare-bulb vertical grows.

Someone should write a chronology of the Tank>sharkstank>myganjagrow>planetganja before we're all too old and demented to remember!

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:45 am
by MadMoonMan
scared me .. im all out of er emergency room story telling ... about my near death shit... and the servers crash on me?

I'm worried how will people know I'm still alive

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:48 am
by MadMoonMan
Its not that I'm important in any way its .. a master story teller never ends a masterful story in an unresolved way.

perfection is a satisfying resolution

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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:59 am
by MadMoonMan
said the crawdad to the snake about the fish they caught in the middle. "I'll take the front half and you take the back half"

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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 11:54 am
by deran
Prawn Connery wrote:
Someone should write a chronology of the Tank>sharkstank>myganjagrow>planetganja before we're all too old and demented to remember!

i love this idea, as forums are living organisms, and only those "autobiographies" are written down, that had some trouble .. like OG, heavens stairway and so on .... no one cares whats going on with the rest, maybe some kind of a virtual map, spanning all forums we have been on and did visit them, it would end up like a travelers route description

we would have to gather some forum CWs from members and plot em graphically

too bad that im not the right person for this lol ....

thx for the downtime

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:09 am
by Prawn Connery
I messaged roller to come in here and recap a bit of history. I remember I crashed sharkstank.com one night - heheheh! - but my memory of MGG is pretty hazy due to circumstance.

I joined OG in 2001 under a different name - "Prawn Connery" was born in 2002 in the Tank (hell, I had a whole family of prawns in the Tank: "King Prawn", "Super Prawn", "Salmonella Prawn", "Prawn Star", "Judge Prawn", "Obi Won Prawnobi", "Messiah Prawn", "Massive Mandibles", "Love Mussel", "James T Perch", "Plural of Prawn", "Psycho Prawn", "Shark Prawn") - and then Cannabis World in 2002.

Apart from Sharkstank.com, MGG and Planet Ganja, I joined Sannie's Open Grow after Gad pulled the plug on PG and the other forums I was a member of were OzStoners, THCFarmer, Rollitup, and MrNice.

After a few years, I got banned at MrNice by Jesse one night after I got on his case. It's all a bit too sucky over there, as you can imagine.

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 4:08 am
by deran
fuck jesse

hes finally gone, and you can return safely back as the new mod is doing a great job ... i also got involved into an "online" fight with this asshole to name things / ppl adequately

bad for him: nevil and shanti were on my side ... lol .... you wouldnt believe how much dirty laundry has been washed infront of innocent users overthere , a reason to feel embarrassed for them!

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 7:59 am
by Roots
Roller had a Planetganja before Gad did.

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:14 pm
by Prawn Connery
Yeah, that's true - he registered the domain when he had MGG and I asked him to give it to us.

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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:28 pm
by Prawn Connery
deran wrote:fuck jesse

hes finally gone, and you can return safely back as the new mod is doing a great job ... i also got involved into an "online" fight with this asshole to name things / ppl adequately

bad for him: nevil and shanti were on my side ... lol .... you wouldnt believe how much dirty laundry has been washed infront of innocent users overthere , a reason to feel embarrassed for them!
He removed one of my threads and accused me of spamming Paradise Seeds after I asked about the Neville's Haze clone Luc had used to create my Stinky Captiss. I'd been talking to Nev about it and PMed JessE to let him know it was OK by Nev. He threatened to ban me. After a few PMs, I told him to get fucked: I hadn't broken any rules and got banned over what was said in a private message. I saw him bully others on the boards, too. I didn't feel much like going back after that.

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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:55 pm
by Jesús Malverde
Everyone having multiple identities makes any coherent chronology a *real* challenge.

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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:08 pm
by roller24
:smoke:
Ok, to the best of my recollection....
I was OG member roller24 when the site was live, I joined about 1 yr before RC stole the site from Shebang. It was around this time that the moderation of the tank began which ensued by a flamewar between tank folk, and the mods, at the time apparently being led by OldPink.
Soon enough RC had the tank closed. It was at this time that I opened up a very rough phpbb site at sharkstank.com, PureEvil should be credited for spamming the site on OG along with Killer Kricket, but the two of them tested the boundries of what I would moderate... Some post contained 5 and 6 pages of smilies, others were vulgar porn, and any other manner they could think of at the time.
A few tankies came to visit, but the biggest influx of traffic began after OG was confiscated by the RMP and was closed. This brought many OGer's by to see the site, those who were aware of it's existence anyway... Hardcase was the villian of the day, as were many others who thoroughly enjoyed the no holds barrred atmosphere.
WHitehat was x3no 's handle and he pm'd me to make me aware of some vulnerabilities which we fixed, and then this discussion evolved into the idea of opening a new cultivation site on a private server in the NW, so soon enough MyGanjaGrow.com was opened on a vbulletin frame. I spent 600$ on a halfpage ad in cannabis culture's 50th issue, and everything seemed like it would be great. However, x3n0 shut down the site a day after the ad came out, and we heard little of him again.
I had given him all the domain ops, so we started from scratch building planetganja.com which was
built on phpbb and self hosted.
Gadabout who was also unethical grower, offered to host the site in Canada, and had much more knowledge of security than I did, so once again I handed the site over to another in hopes of it becoming awesome, but once again, the admin closed up shop for a reason I was not aware of , due to I had become obsessed with other things irl and wasn't online alot.
Planetganja.net was opened around the same time as MyPlanetganja.com and both sites operated, but it was this one, which smokebreaks created with Oldjoints. dot net went by the wayside, and now here we are.

THis is certainly the readers digest version, but it encapsulates the journey that I remember.

K+ to the members I remembers
Salts (the site sista soldja)
PureEvil (sharktanks first admin, other than me)
Prawn Connery (literary genius and master troll)
Killer Kricket (PE's partner in crime)
4rcfed (trolled me the most)
Whitehat
koda <3
Hardcase (most triggered troll)
Old Pink (came around to hear gossip)
Sportster (og mod)
unethical grower
Booboy (swamp cracker)
Topaztic (major player in this site)
Old Joints (.nets first defense auction)
Smokebreaks (big daddy)
Kendo
edge
and of course Juice!!

So many others I can't list em all.

thx for the downtime

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:20 pm
by roller24
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Jaybird won the ad design contest and got his avatar in the ad, it was a simple screenshot, and looked great in the copy proof, that I approved, but the printing was not as clear, and kind of disappoi ting.
Jaybird won the ad design contest and got his avatar in the ad, it was a simple screenshot, and looked great in the copy proof, that I approved, but the printing was not as clear, and kind of disappoi ting.

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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:47 pm
by Irwin the Troll
Redundancy.
roller24 wrote:WOW, A whole thread about me and not one slanderous post. :tup:
I'll address some inquiries and then give you all an accurate account of where I am coming from and where I want to go with Planet Ganja.
Godaddy is being used only to park the domain name. Their servers then point the name at my server.
I cant see investing in a pay as you go server, until the NEED arises.
I have several computers and have enough bandwidth to service a community forums site.
I have three ads total on the site I believe, One for Kaylyx.com and two google ads. I threw them in because the accounts already exist from another site, which I do use strictly for ad revenue, and should get back to developing soon, due to the close completion of PlanetGanja.

When I first met Gadabout his name was Uber, on OG. He was running a thread, promising 50 or 100 BC bigbud seeds to the winner, who would elaborate on a given SURVIVOR THEMED scenario.
I won
But low and behold no seeds were ever delivered. The joke was on the contest entrants.
I was growing alot of bud in a tub as some of you may have read at .NET and utilized OG as my homebase for info and support, but most of all... While I was waiting out the Veg and Flower stages and grew weary only posting in the grow forums, I slipped into the sharktank for a dip.

I was like a fat kid in a cake shop. The Tank back then was politically slanted with a few flame wars from the grow forums thrown in. The mood was tense at all times, and if you said anything unsubstatiated, you were called down and became the victim of a feeding frenzy.

POM was untouchable in those days, as his intellectual wit was matched by few, King Prawn trolled the tank as well with superior writing skills, and roller24 was trolling daily for fresh meat. I particularly liked the taste of DankDuck.
Saltwatergirl, Topaztic, and many friends were made there, along with numerous foes.
Then one cold winter's eve, while Shabang was on Holiday (every other month) the tank forum was locked due to numerous complaints by the more serious(sensitive) growers. Days later the tank got flushed.
What was I going to do? I wasn't about to troll members of the Texas Resin Company in the grow threads, as moderation was heavy due to the tank closure. So I did exactly what smokebreaks did and modded a phpbb into sharkstank.com hoping to capture the same atmosphere of free speech as the forum at OG. PureEvil(phunk) was my first member there, and my first member at every other tank and site that Ive opened, including .NET. He has a special place in my heart. His most memorable post was right after I told him that the only moderation that would be done, would to keep a members anonymity and nothing else. So he and Killer Kricket posted several topics with hundreds and I mean hundreds of smilies for page after page after page. It was obnoxious but funny as hell.
The site peaked after Ethical Grower showed up claiming to have some OG information he was about to out to the public using the Tank as his forum. GOD(a very active member) apparently got the info in a PM and the ruckus built up for what seemed like a month. I finally realized that Ethical G was no other than Uber, up to his old pranks. The gig was up, but by now, the mistrust of the tank led to a rapid decline in member activity, and it began to fade. In the mean time Whitehat joined and informed me of a small security issue with the site and helped me fix it before it became compromised.
His OG handle was x3n0 and he had saavy cpu skills. Prawny gave the rest of the story of MGG and PG in his aforementioned post.
As for the past couple of years, I havent been growing, so my posting frequency has declined immensely. I hit rock bottom hard in my last business venture (restaurant) and was totally absorbed in that debacle while PG was growing to a site that would rival it's mother, OG. I still browsed the site regularly, and posted as Satanclaws at xmas time. Where is Hellboy anyway?
My X moved south with my two youngest children, so I finally threw in the towlie on my shop, and moved down here as well.
Prior to .COM's demise, I began doing some cpu stuff to generate some extra income as my 10$/hr janitorial position is not even close to what I am accustomed to earning and barely enough to make ends meet. Im at the cpu a few hours each day, so I decided to reopen the planet with one goal in mind.
To stay online for as long as I was capable of staying on line, and then passing the site to someone else to keep alive should I become unable to do so. Two Great sites were yanked out from under the feet of a DEDICATED membership, and SO much grow knowledge disappeared in an instant.
Im a hardcore OGer and the idea of overgrowing the world is still the best reason to make sure that some harbor for veteren OGs and PGs and new growers can call home. If I had known that smokebreaks had opened myplanetganja.com, I would have balked, but It wasnt until I was about to go live, that prawn informed me of a potential opportunity to rebuild with smokebreaks. I'm still mulling the idea over, and Im pretty sure my software has the ability to migrate this site into it's forum, or anything else you want it to do. It's a great piece of module software, with endless features.

So before I commit to any merger, I would like to see what .COM is going to do. If Uber gets his shit together and brings back the site with db in tact, then we have served our purpose well by providing harbor to abandoned members, and can return to our home planet. OR we could join together and pay back Uber for burning me on those bigbud beans :twisted:
Let's just see how the breeze blows for now.

That's my story and Im sticking to it.
R24

thx for the downtime

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 3:32 am
by Prawn Connery
Yeah, we fucked with the stank something wicked. Tardcase and I had a fight one night that ended up with dozens of pages of complete and utter shit - we just kept copy and pasting crap to fill up the server - until the site crashed and roller got upset with us. :toker1:

But it was only for one day :wink:

I almost forgot about the first incarnation of planetganja.com - it took a lot of convincing, eh roller(?), to get you to hand it over to Gad.

Much as I'm an anarchist, it was pretty clear after the stank that there had to be some moderation. I remember PG had the bare minimum to begin with - no real details, no porn (Gad's rule - fair enough, there are trillions of porn sites) - and that was about it. Then the rules started getting longer and longer. Then PoM came along and broke what few rules we had - I don't think Gad ever forgave me for letting PoM run amok. All I wanted - like roller - was a place for everyone to be free to say whatever the fuck they wanted. It was all good fun until it started getting real . . .

I miss PE/KK - whatever happened to him?

And I remember that tub grow, roller - that was fuckin' ghetto. You were growing some type of haze hybrid (C99 F2?) and you let them veg until they got totally out of control. They all ended up burned on the light or something.

thx for the downtime

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:43 pm
by deran
we had em all ....

we even trolled franco out of the door .... lol