DEA Announces Intent to Schedule Kratom

smokebreaks · Post by **smokebreaks** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:06 pm

When the end result is the same, why go through it? You're going to die anyhow, any good reason beyond profit to put your loved ones through hell?

My best friend had once described going through chemo as setting your body on fire and then just a light mist of rain as we were walking out of the oncology center felt as though he was being cut with millions of razor blades.

Certainly didn't help him, and since the oncologist told him when he was diagnosed that at stage 4 treatment option was futile he had 18 months?

Well he didn't accept that, took his chances with chemo and radiation, hoping for a miracle, he made it 11 months.

When the cancer came back it was more aggressive and the end result, he died at age 43.

Freakalicious · Post by **Freakalicious** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 2:05 pm

saved my wife, gave my father another 8 years. but when your kid or wife gets cancer you can certainly not use chemo if you prefer.

smokebreaks · Post by **smokebreaks** » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:45 pm

I guess it all depends on how hard you want to fight? I don't have kids, and if I were to be in a position where the quality of life is not worth the agony of the treatment, knowing that inevitable outcome which awaits us all, I don't think I'd go through with it.

This world is pretty much fucked and the longer I stay alive the more disappointing it seems to become.

Honestly the profits being sucked out of the populace from EpiPens to Anti-Virals to Insulin and who knows how many other drugs/chemical combinations really highlights the profits over patients mentality in the boardrooms that affect the overall healthcare system.

Many of the specialist clinics will run you through treatment so long as your insurance will pay too, but once you hit that lifetime maximum payout you're fucked

deran · Post by **deran** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:51 am

the land of the free , producing fenta, selling oxy and banning kratom .....

i heard already a few times from ex users that kratom is a wonder drug when you go turkey, knowing already a few kinds of turkeys from personal expirience (yes they are all different, but have one in common, they are mean... ) i give a shit about the "problems" of abuse "potential" as ppl cant open their eyes and see the real problems ...

most deaths coming from fenta and or smack, from meth psychosis, while all fine housewives double up doses every week, and fucking doc prescribing this shit ...

i have a radical view on things, no doc should prescribe a substance that he or she hasnt evaluated personally, just to get a glimpse of reality .... reading about side effects or turkey symptoms is just on a completley another level than expiriencing those

but we are already too late, jsut look at their success (having already 3 to 5 "legal" derivates from china, dosage in the µ range or less) - yes give this to your dumbed out nation and watch them fall ... blame somebody else, ban a plant and go to war to make money ....

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:59 am

Banning a Promising Cure for Opioid Addiction Is a Bad Idea

the DEA said that the Centers for Disease Control received 660 complaints about kratom (including reports of constipation and vomiting) between 2010 to 2015, out of 3 million calls annually reporting adverse reactions to assorted other foods and drugs. To put this number in perspective, the National Poison Data System registers more than 3,700 calls about caffeine annually, every year leading to multiple overdoses that result in death.

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deran · Post by **deran** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:49 pm

i could bet thos calls are from "educated" parents .. geeezzz

MadMoonMan · Post by **MadMoonMan** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:44 pm

You guys can do your Kratom or whatever. I'm done drug testing. Done did it. Enjoy Marijuana and no drugs except coffee tea and moderate alcohol

I offer this advice. Change the name.

Maybe something like hey.. Stool Relief.

and get commercial time where you sell the idea of KrapNow... or KRAPMomemnt .. to long

and get a jingle song kinda like

I was walking in the fields one day and stepped in deep bear crap..(sung in deep voice)

Then I saw my horse was sneezing in the hay field.

MadMoonMan · Post by **MadMoonMan** » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:49 pm

I'm doing this on the fly ... I can refine it.

brb.. have a call

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bentech · Post by **bentech** » Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:01 am

Is Kratom the CBD of Opioids?

http://www.alternet.org/drugs/kratom-cbd-opioids" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **Jesús Malverde** » Sun Oct 02, 2016 9:31 pm

I've never had it, but it kinda seems like it.