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bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:17 pm
by bentech
got gifted half a plastic grocery bag of trim
bone dry
been in someones storage for a couple years
bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:20 pm
by bentech
so i dusted off my old bubblebucket gear
aint looked at this stuff in years
well
lets get started
bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:26 pm
by bentech
my system doesnt use sewn bags
it uses a couple of precisely cut buckets
to trap the screens
one at a time for each stage
its begins by first mixing in a 5 gallon
i cut the bottom out of a second 5 gallon
which slides into the first bucket
with a 5 gallon paint strainer bag in between
this prevents the filter bag from getting twisted up
by the mixers action
btw, this is done easiest by pulling the bag over the outside
of the bottomless bucket
btw,
one of my testors started a long thread on icmag.com almost 10 years ago
i tried to find it recently but couldnt. sure would like to if its still there
his name was "smiley" and "ben ttech" was a contributor
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bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:30 pm
by bentech
this mixer doesnt scrap plastic off the bucket walls
but it does clog up
oh well
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:35 pm
by bentech
after mixing
i like to let all the ice finish melting
before i pull this bag
i figure it lets the last of the tric's
which i figure get frozen up in the ice
fall out
ive made this work in several sizes
5 gallon is idea for this size a batch
and its the only size id still the assembly parts around for so...
i picked out my screen from the pile
and put the business together
its pretty self explainatory
bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:38 pm
by bentech
could have cut out the big hole in the 5 gallon lid a little bigger
i suspect if i rotated that part a spot or two
it would line up better
bubblebuckets
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:56 pm
by bentech
was cold here today
and i ran out of time
so i will finish the process tomorrow
figured id show you how the assembly is made
it takes two buckets
which you cuf off like so
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so that they will nest together
you want the top "ring" or "bottomless part
to slide 2 to 3 cm into the lower section which has all the holes
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and yes,
i had to fudge that last drawing
heh
bubblebuckets
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:53 am
by twilson
Anxious to see how much you end up with.
I save some of my trim cause when I run out I can get a buzz off of leaf after about 10 days of not smoking bud. You can only do this once a day however. Leaf is not strong enough to get you buzzed multiple times in one day.
bubblebuckets
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:29 pm
by Jesús Malverde
^^^ that's basically it. I must thrown or given away a lot because I didn't know what to do with it. Most of it, like the males, ended up being mulch. If you can make good hash from it, that'd be pure frosting.
bubblebuckets
Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:33 pm
by bentech
this is going to take awhile so
figured i wouldnt keep you entirely waiting
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:48 pm
by Jesús Malverde
Well, it *looks* nice--like good fresh made hash if fact. Approximately how much can be saved out from say a pound of OK trim shake?
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 12:34 am
by bentech
you know i completely failed to even think of weighing it before i started,
i can however give a very accurate volume by measuring the box it filled nearly to the top
and compare that to what i end up with here after its dried
bubblebuckets
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:10 am
by Roots
Glad to see you smoking on something good.
I disagree with your drying method, I don't press till about a week after out of water, I even chop up the clumps like a line of coke, but some of my patties are 10x the size you've shown.
bubblebuckets
Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:44 am
by bentech
i should mention
nothing is pressed yet
because there is no bag with the screen
you can fold em up and stick them in the freezer
after a quick set on a towel to wick of most of the moisture after pulling from the apparatus
i get most everything cleaned up and put away
then i start grabbing the frozen screens out and the extract just falls off the screen
in whatever shape it was in when it frozen
those pics are just a few minutes after i got each out
given the life this bag of trim lived getting to me
hard to think i could make it worse
what would you do different?
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:42 am
by bentech
ok,
lets get this done
the next day the ice had melted nicely
i lightly aggitated the floating mat of trim a bit
get the last of the last
then
i pulled the screen guarding bottomless bucket and the bag
then got to work getting
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:47 am
by bentech
these are the screen i selected
their variation in markings simply represents
different times over the years i worked on this project
i start by pouring off the top of the water
get it down to a couple of gallons
as in my process
youre adding water back in a little bit at nearly each stage
theres the stuff
snap that assembly on a clean empty bucket
and your off
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:51 am
by bentech
ok
you start with your coarsest screen
you place it over the bottom half of the assembly
and them you press the top half into it
tight, but not to tight
they friction fit together nicely
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:05 pm
by bentech
sorry no pictures of this critical bit
working alone and its two handed
now, there is a trick here that critical
its easy to make that screen at tight and flat as a drum this way
but if you do, the material will settle across it and clog it
the water wont drain
this is where the bubblemans bags are genius without even knowing it
and a guy using this buckets has some work cut out for him
and here is where an overlap of 3 cm in those buckets fitting together pays off
what you need to do
is make sure that when those two parts are fix together tightly
that the screen has as pronounced a droop in it as possible
what i do is first
press the ring bucket [bottomless upper section] down until it just begins to stick
then keeping downward pressure on it
i reach in with the other hand and gently
push it down
concentrating on pulling as much screen as possible through the friction as possible
while still maintaining it trapped all around
concentrate on the 4 points of the screen which have the shortest distance to the center
these are each 45 degrees away from the corners
once ive pulled each of these to the point that only a fraction of an inch still show outside the assembly
i press in the center of the screen
you want the droops bottom to have a definite spot and close to the center
then maintaining pressure on it
you press the ring bucket down good
i do this with a forearm layed across it
and apologizes for the first timer
this process is far easier the with the finer screen youll use later
but youll be learning with the coarsest
which makes it difficult
mabe practice a few times with one of the others
got it?
your ready to pour!
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:17 pm
by bentech
disaster!
heh,
this happened the first time i ever did this,
so long ago i forgot
i forgot to drill some holes for air to escape the bucket your pouring into
so instead of the screen drooping nicely
it started to balloon upwards as i poured
the air being displaced needing to go somewhere
sigh
ok,
this is a good chance to demonstrate how you deal
with incidents of your trapped screen pulling all the way through
during a pour, should you not have gotten a proper seal of it
and how to remedy
pull the assembly apart
wash off the screen you were using in the bucket
pour all your water into one bucket and rinse the other buckets sides and bottom, as well as the assembly, to get all the particulates into one buckets water
after that, go drill those air holes
[ while i was at it, i cut out more of that 5 gallon lid so it wasnt in the path of the draining water ]
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:20 pm
by bentech
4 half inch holes around the rim will do it
and all back together...
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:21 pm
by bentech
ok
snap it back onto your empty bucket and pour
this is what youll get the first time
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:22 pm
by bentech
now, what you really want it this
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:27 pm
by bentech
various ways to get there
you can use that squeeze bottle to wash it all into the center
there is always a bit under the edge of the ring bucket so be sure to wash there
the squeeze bottle really isnt up to this task though
so i use a small retail water bottle
you fill it up and then hold it inside the bucket and pour it
flipping your wrist back and forth so you get a wash down all the sides
ive found that
as the screens get finer and drain slower
its advantageous to use a finger to swirl the draining water
as it gets down to the last this washes most into the center
once youve got it there
carefully remove the screen and set it on a dry towel
this is to wick out most of the water
the best way to do this without losing control of the screen
is to grasp the ring bucket trapping the screen to it as you pull it up
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:31 pm
by bentech
ok
now take your squeeze bottle and rinse the walls and bottom of the bucket you just pour out of into the bucket you just poured into
then rinse the bottom of the assembly
theres always some particulates here which didnt wash down
its being to flat
now, snap the assembly onto the empty bucket
trap your next screen
mind the droop
and your ready for your next pour
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:39 pm
by bentech
pour again
concentrate your fines
pull the screen and lay it on the towel
oh forgot!
the one that was sitting on the towel
pop it into the freezer
preferable folded in half
and by fold i mean as if youd folded it around a can or bottle
take the assembly off the bucket you just poured into
rinse the empty bucket and assembly again
back they onto the empty bucket
trap the next screen
pour
concentrate
this picture shows a point in mid concentration of fines where
the squeeze bottle works great for getting the last of the last into the center
feel free to tip the whole 5 gallon bucket to make this easier!
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:43 pm
by bentech
btw
the reason to put the screens in the freezer
is so you dont have to scrap the kif off the screens
that small bit of moisture in the kif when frozen
hold it together so well the whole piece literally falls off the screen
leaving nearly nothing behind!
this is the reason for spending the time and energy washing as many of the the particles together into one lump as possible
within reason...
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i like to get through the whole process
with all my screens in the freezer
and get everything else cleaned up before i start taking them out to finish
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:49 pm
by bentech
next screen on the towel
wash the system
repeat
120 on the towel
and a close up
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it only takes a bare minutes on the towel before its ready for the freezer
provided the towel is relatively dry that is
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:54 pm
by bentech
as you get down into the finer screens
they become more like fabric
and droop with many more folds
so you get this cool looking patterns as they drain
which get washed away as the water level falls down them
so they only last a few seconds
concentrated on on the towel
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 12:58 pm
by bentech
i got distracted and forgot to take pictures of the 45u and the 25u
but its simply more of the same
down in these smallest screens
the water starts to drain slower
drumming a bit on the side helps
BUT A WARNING!!!
druming on the side CAN unseat the ring bucket if your not careful
a real disaster, so be careful
better to reach in a swirl the water just over the screen really
i did take pictures of the last screen, 19u
i think this is somewhere in the 400 plus threads per inch range
its been to long since i did the conversions
smaller than anything you could get in a fabric bucket
there were some fines still in what washed through this screen
i didnt bother collecting them
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:04 pm
by bentech
get cleaned up and get onto getting the hash off the screens
i didnt get a picture of the 220 screen
but i did all the rest
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:06 pm
by bentech
and on and on...
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:08 pm
by bentech
the 25u screen hadnt been in the freezer long enough
so it didnt come off nicely
should have taken another smokebreak after cleaning up the buckets
and the photo studio
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:10 pm
by bentech
heres that 19u
i never could get bubbleman or anyone else to fess up about using more screens than the product shipped with
i always wonder if those "ice" hashes that started making the rounds a few years after the bubblebuckets came out wernt using more screen to super select the grade they wanted to continue processing
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:14 pm
by bentech
well
be sure now to rise all your screens real good
i hang em to dry
takes about 3 minutes
and here it all is
i gotta drive it so this is packed for shipping
the 19u is under that taped down waterbottle cap
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 1:15 pm
by bentech
that bag of trim had quite a bit of popcorn bud in it,
i pulled the best of it out before crushing the rest in the bag before starting
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:26 pm
by twilson
Great tutorial. Throwing away leaf is a big waste. I don't get much cause my grow is small but a guy I know gets about half a black garbage bag full with each harvest. He gives it away to his nieces boyfriend who uses this process. The boyfriend has another source for trim who gives him massive amounts. Too bad they are down in Maryland cause I'd like to watch him do it sometime.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:33 pm
by bentech
wait wait wait,
did you means uses "this" process as in bubblebags
or a bucket system just like this?
cause if its the latter,
he would have either to be a beta testor i sent one out to
or someone who one of those sets got passed to
or he built it following that threat on icmag
i sent more than a dozen about 8 years ago
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 3:51 pm
by twilson
bentech wrote:wait wait wait,
did you means uses "this" process as in bubblebags
or a bucket system just like this?
cause if its the latter,
he would have either to be a beta testor i sent one out to
or someone who one of those sets got passed to
or he built it following that threat on icmag
i sent more than a dozen about 8 years ago
I don't know exactly which method he uses. I just know it's a method that turns leaf into something much better. He also makes a shit load of cana butter with the concentrate he ends up with. A guy that has a shipping container size grow gives him bags of leaf.
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:25 pm
by bentech
i do have to give it up for the bags in several respects
i used to believe my way was easier
you dont get soaking wet from the thighs down in the process
and you dont leave anywhere near as much kif on the screens scooping it off with a spoon
but you could put your bags in the freezer...
after a dozen runs over the years i see that mine in fact takes more work
many more steps
not to mention lifting and pouring all those gallons
and of course it cant ship in a big padded envelop
the bulk of mine was what really did it in
one of testers was super jazzed though
he was involved with a medical clinic
was planning to get groups together to teach using it
and then give em the gear
about the smallest you can affordably purchase the mesh fabric is by the yard which will make 9 screens for the 2 gallon size
done that way, the cost was about 25 bucks a set, buckets and all at the time
at that point i was building a tool that would cut the buckets correctly
without any need to measure yourself
i liked his idea and figured i could make these tools for clubs and collectives
but he told me that the owners lawyer didnt like the idea and nix'd it
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:35 pm
by twilson
Didn't know this was your own method. You should stop calling it bubble buckets and call it Ben buckets.
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 6:52 pm
by bentech
and the redux
from 336 cubic inches of trim
thats 1.45 gallons
5.5 liters
i got 8 grams
and that is excluding the stuff the 220 and 190 screens produced
i dont have a loope but their obviously full of plant material
bubblebuckets
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:46 pm
by Earl
Mmmm...bubble hash! Looks tasty, my friend!
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:44 pm
by twilson
bentech wrote:and the redux
from 336 cubic inches of trim
thats 1.45 gallons
5.5 liters
i got 8 grams
and that is excluding the stuff the 220 and 190 screens produced
i dont have a loope but their obviously full of plant material
Didn't think you'd get that much. That's impressive.
bubblebuckets
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:38 pm
by bentech
you know,
i just might have gotten that wrong...
will recheck tomorrow
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Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 am
by bentech
ok,
whew,
you got me concerned; mabe id fucked the tares up and weigh'd the paper plate in!
but i didnt
i weighting the 220 screen full after reading your comment got me thinking
there was 3 grams in that screen
plenty of plant fiber in it
but hey twilson!
for those who end up smoking their trim,
surely this would be and upgrade!
bubblebuckets
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:31 pm
by bentech
found it!
https://www.icmag.com/modules/News/show ... adid=40129" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:55 am
by Roots
Fuck, they banned my account again.
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:19 pm
by Intrinsic
Hey! I want my fare share of banning. but too lazy to register.
Thanks Ben.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:01 pm
by Dick Fein
Do you have a good source for screens?
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:36 pm
by bentech
unfortunately no
my sources were just making the rounds of the local screening supply companies at the time
its been more than a decade...
I discovered these places discarded the end of their roll
any length under 36 inches that is
and on a couple of occasions was given good sized pieces of sizes I wanted
rSins RSO
Posted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:26 am
by anu
i know you want to keep it out of dispensary's but how can i try some ? i just ended skin cancer treatments on forehead and bald head by adding 900 mg THC oil to ounce of CBD oil used ( Topically ) about every 3 or 4 hrs. sometimes i noticed i was high when not smoking ) in combo with Efudex which basically kills all the skin and it falls off leaving me with the softest, purtiest skin, i looked like a monster for 3 wks. so i laid low !! more power to your bubble bags mon !!
anyone got jack x g13 or ortega99