UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

[Intrinsic]

It is to do with your claim that Russia is trying to exterminate Ukrainians.

Please keep up.

either one or the other. Still a red herring. You question my claiming gabbard was a Russian asset. then you asked me to show where she told a lie, I showed you her Russian propaganda.

what you posted was a red herring. At best. Maybe a strawman:

I left that part out because it is a figment of your and imagination brought on by absorbing Ukraine and US/UK propaganda. 

Fewer civilians killed by Russia in almost 2 years compared to Israel in 1 month with US support. And how many civilians does the US kill in one of their operations? 

Let's say i concede they're not trying to exterminate them just a little death and destruction. You win the strawman.
Still you left out that part this invasion was going on when they close the churches.
a distraction, a red Hhrring fallacy, doesn't address Gabbard or the churches as a Russian asset.


But that's okay I'll try to keep up.

[Butcher Bob]

You question my claiming gabbard was a Russian asset. then you asked me to show where she told a lie, I showed you her Russian propaganda.

Reeally?

Because your side of the Tulsi conversation...

Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset. pos <spits>

If after coming from back from Russia and you have a platform and you parrot Russians lies, campaign for other Russian assets then you are a Russian asset.

Regardless she's still a POS politician

You will have to point out the Russian lies to me in her video. Everything she said is common knowledge...

A Lie? Ok not a lie per se. Echoing the Russian propaganda about closing Ukrainian orthodox churches leaving out the churches are a Russian asset for extermination of Ukraine. Gabbard, as Trump, is a Russian asset.

I am not using it as derogatory...it's your biases that see my use of "russia" as derogatory.

...As Russian propagandist do. Is What makes it propaganda.

Tulsi Gabbard did. Hence a Russian asset.

And this has to do with Gabbard being a Russian asset how?

...is just slanderous bullshit.

[Intrinsic]

Random Quotes not all address to Stork whom I was speaking to in your initial quote. Or even linear in time. Yet you claim that is a conversation Oh my!

When you got nothing jes cry it's all bullshit.
Damn that logic is impeccable. you're a fucking genius.

[Maribou Stork]

You question my claiming gabbard was a Russian asset. then you asked me to show where she told a lie, I showed you her Russian propaganda.

Even the truth can be propaganda when it is used to influence opinions.

Her video was only 1 minute 18 seconds long so why expect her to go to great lengths to detail that "the churches are a Russian asset for extermination of Ukraine"? She probably doesn't believe that....I certainly don't. The only ones who talk about exterminating Ukrainians are Nato leaders who mostly said, "To the last Ukrainian".

Russian and Ukrainian negotiators made a deal and initialed it early on in the conflict. The West intervened as they wanted more Russians dead and they didn't care which side of the Dnieper they lived.


Frequency 149.200, callsign Volga....save your life....More and more Ukrainian conscripts are doing just that.

[Intrinsic]

Even the truth can be propaganda when it is used to influence opinions.

Exactly my point thank you.

Her video was only 1 minute 18 seconds long so why expect her to go to great lengths to detail

Logical fallacy strawman, I didn't say she had to go in Great Lengths.

that "the churches are a Russian asset for extermination of Ukraine"?

No not that. But what's the Ukrainian reasons why the churches were closed. Not jes the Russian side. She deliberately didn't. so by yer words propaganda. "Even the truth can be propaganda when it is used to influence opinions." ~ Stork. Remember that was my original contention she's sprouting propaganda favoring Russia.

She probably doesn't believe that....I certainly don't. The only ones who talk about exterminating Ukrainians are Nato leaders who mostly said, "To the last Ukrainian".

Nup, if you need to I can go back and Source it but there's tons of examples where the Russian leaders and news outlets have called for the exact thing, the extermination of all Ukraine. Usally Something about they're all Nazis. I'm sure I posted a few of those in this thread already. See I don't just watch Ukrainian propaganda I also watch Russian tv news too.
Google: "Russia calls for the extermination of Ukraine"

[Butcher Bob]

Random Quotes...

Not random...you made a claim...

I showed you her Russian propaganda.

...so I quoted all the Tulsi material from your posts...
...to show that you are full of shit.
What you ARE doing, is pulling a Hillary....tired.

[roller24]

Since it was Hillary, that ACTUALLY paid a Russsian to scuttle her opponent's campaign, then it was her and not Trump that colluded with Russians to interfere with the election.

Special counsel John Durham this week obtained an indictment of Igor Danchenko, a Russian who provided information for the dossier. Danchenko is charged with lying to the FBI, but the bigger story of the indictment is Democrats’ central role in every aspect of the dossier and the FBI investigation.

Then she made it public by accusing Trump of being an Russian asset during the last debate in 2016. This was a lie, she knew it was a lie.
Then she made the same accusation about Gabbard, not because there was any substance, but because Gabbard was critical about the handling of Syria, and was speaking out against the warmongering policies of the US.

By this logic, Intrinsic, you are a anti semetic Hamas stooge and an asset of the Iranians.

[Intrinsic]

Random Quotes...

Not random...you made a claim...

I showed you her Russian propaganda.

...so I quoted all the Tulsi material from your posts...
...to show that you are full of shit.
What you ARE doing, is pulling a Hillary....tired.

Stork asked me where she lied I pointed it out where. I up front stating it wasn't a lie but propaganda. True, but propaganda by omission.
Stork asked, i answered.

You seem to be under the impression that propaganda must necessarily be lies. As Roller pointed out propaganda is often true but framed to to sway the readers opinion.

You on the other hand are full of shit cuz you showed nothing just calling something bs it's not showing anything. Hence yer full of shit. Projection much.

[Intrinsic]

Since it was Hillary, that ACTUALLY paid a Russsian to scuttle her opponent's campaign, then it was her and not Trump that colluded with Russians to interfere with the election.

Special counsel John Durham this week obtained an indictment of Igor Danchenko, a Russian who provided information for the dossier. Danchenko is charged with lying to the FBI, but the bigger story of the indictment is Democrats’ central role in every aspect of the dossier and the FBI investigation.

Then she made it public by accusing Trump of being an Russian asset during the last debate in 2016. This was a lie, she knew it was a lie.
Then she made the same accusation about Gabbard, not because there was any substance, but because Gabbard was critical about the handling of Syria, and was speaking out against the warmongering policies of the US.

By this logic, Intrinsic, you are a anti semetic Hamas stooge and an asset of the Iranians.

I hadn't brought up Hillary I didn't even know she criticized her. Straw man argument. If you don't think russia tries to sway our elections you're the stooge. USA does it, Ireland does it, England does it, France does it Russia does it, China does it, Australia does it, Malaysia does it Chile does it, Canada does it Israel does it big time. Everybody's doing it to everyone else.
It's an international poker game and everybody's cheating, capiche

[roller24]

You called Gabbard a Russian asset, this is bringing up Hillary, as it was Hillary's proclamation that began the fallacy about Tulsi.

Hillary Clinton emerged from relative political obscurity last week to claim that Tulsi Gabbard, a Democratic presidential candidate and member of Congress from Hawaii, was “the favorite of the Russians” prepping for a third-party spoiler run during a podcast interview. She went so far as to imply that the representative was “a Russian asset.”

If you didn't know this, then you are truly just a parrot.