UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

MadMoonMan · Post by **MadMoonMan** » Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:46 pm

is it or is it not true Ukraine is wholly corrupt? As many of our GUVERMents.

MadMoonMan · Post by **MadMoonMan** » Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:50 pm

We are just Peons. in a urinary puddle? As they say in France.. "Is that your socks not knicked?" Whats wrong with you?

I may have botched the translation. It's difficult to translate into English. A more literal translation as the insult goes is "You been wading in piss again Yank?"

ben ttech · Post by **ben ttech** » Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:34 am

your spot on mad,
ukraine today is a gross experiment in capitalist control of governance via national stress application

as a functions of of the outside funds pouring in theyve all be forced into a grotesque system their money all being effectively online.
nationally it was forced on them
goes with war and what they seemingly have to do to stay in opposition to russia's police action...

Post by **roller24** » Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:21 am

ben ttech wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:34 am
your spot on mad,
ukraine today is a gross experiment in capitalist control of governance via national stress application

as a functions of of the outside funds pouring in theyve all be forced into a grotesque system their money all being effectively online.
nationally it was forced on them
goes with war and what they seemingly have to do to stay in opposition to russia's police action...

ben ttech wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:35 am
still no evidence or law breaking,
meanwhile the outstanding lawbreakers youve not a word about...

Yet you support the biggest profiteer of this war, Don't you?
Playing both sides of the fence.

ben ttech · Post by **ben ttech** » Sat Aug 05, 2023 9:43 am

hmmmm

anti-war myself
but all for defense

would walk a vest into raytheon if i though it would help...

what do you mean by accusing me of playing both sides???

im a huge fan of putins work keeping russia on the map as a strategic threat to american hegomony.
i suppose thats a voice driving american investment in oblivion but shit
the americans were gonna support their empire even if the enemy was nothing but camel jockeys

seriously,
what gives?

Post by **roller24** » Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:56 pm

ben ttech wrote: ↑
August 5th, 2023, 4:35 am
still no evidence or law breaking,
meanwhile the outstanding lawbreakers youve not a word about...

You seemed put out because I'm shedding light on the crimes committed by the sitting president.
Why?
Because you hate Trump and think that all sights should be aimed upon him?
Now you are in here against a war that Biden was complicit in bringing about and escalating.
Trump being elected put the brakes on their NATO expansion, and had he been re-elected, I would have to speculate that the European situation would be not what it is today.
You seem to stand against every aspect of the administrative state, yet seem repelled by the one man who wants it dismantled.
How could you hear that message though through all the blaring ad hominem.

And exactly what are these crimes committed that I should be shedding light on? Everything I've seen thrown at him is to either cover up DNC corruption or diminish his eligibility for another term.

Post by **roller24** » Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:03 pm

besides.
There is ample posting on Trump here.
I'm sure all your desired perspectives have been addressed redundantly.

Post by **roller24** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 10:17 am

dill786 · Post by **dill786** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:56 am

recently Zelensky has sacked top ukraine army officials for corruption

no surprise there then,,,

Post by **roller24** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:15 pm

Do they have to turn in their BMWs?

I found something I wrote back in 2016 on the morning before Trump/Clinton debate. The one when she got flustered about her emails and pulled the Russian card from up her sleeve.
This is what signaled her cronies to set in motion the investigation using fraudulent intel from foreign sources.
She and the entire democratic party were certain that this was her moment to break the glass ceiling for a female POTUS.
They had cemented the bureaucracy in D.C. and had made history with electing the first non white POTUS.
It was going to be glorious! This was how things were destined to be, and the neoliberals and neocons were all anticipating what they had been touting for years. Regime change in Russia.
While Biden and Nuland were prepping Ukraine, Clinton put her sights on Syria, as she had already dismantled Libya, and Russians had started supporting Assad. Remember all the no fly zones that were initiated just a month prior to the 2016 election? Tensions were raised between Russia and the US to a point of war talk in the media. If I recall, Trump and Russia were both targeting ISIS, and after the task, Trump seemed to retreat to a point of observation.
Had Clinton won, I believe that situation would have been escalated to a broader conflict in that region, and then Ukraine could have been used as more of a political theatre of operations, to secure the route from the east.
I've heard some rattles from Syria recently in headlines and such, and wonder if this area will start heating up again.