UKRAINE & EU v RUSSIA part 2

Prawn Connery · Post by **Prawn Connery** » Wed May 24, 2023 9:50 am

I wonder what's happening in Russia . . . er, I mean Ukraine, these past two days?

Post by **roller24** » Wed May 24, 2023 2:07 pm

https://understandingwar.org/background ... ay-22-2023

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Thu May 25, 2023 4:11 pm

Well, Jimmy got put on the "kill list"...

Now I know some of you are all like...

Jimmy Dore's a hack!
...because you're too thick to look further.

I'll agree to a certain extent...Jimmy can over hype.
But I find Max's reporting to be quite credible...
...and I find David Miller's (Carnegie Endowment for International Peace) reporting very credible as well...

“INDEPENDENT” UKRAINIAN “KILL LIST” ACTUALLY RUN BY KIEV, BACKED BY WASHINGTON
https://www.mintpressnews.com/independe ... on/284639/

Nice to see our tax dollars being spent wisely.

Post by **roller24** » Sat May 27, 2023 11:10 pm

Kremlin faces internal stirs of mutiny.
It seems that the Wagner leadership is at odds with the Russian military, according to this article.
Should Putin be ousted, the power vacuum would be filled by my guess, almost simultaneously.
Prigozhin seems like a ruthless and ambitious enough to make a run.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/kr ... 32da&ei=18

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun May 28, 2023 9:51 am

think about that for another minute

its author want you to believe that in the vacuum of power present,
the vacuum would 'pull in' a 'head of power' who has the LEAST money going for it...

???

that nonesense on its face.

capiche

ben ttech · Post by **ben ttech** » Sun May 28, 2023 9:57 am

in overthrows,
dont the incoming represent a minority power as opposed to whats being diposed?

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Sun May 28, 2023 9:59 am

the incoming ALMOST ALWAYS represent a minority of the people represented.

to have managed the overthrow THEY a minority need only have leveraged the sympathy of a majority in whatever venue it took to make the change...

rSin · Post by **rSin** » Sun May 28, 2023 10:07 am

so, call it a mojority all you want, but
where it was in action
the nuts and bolts of how things work

it wasnt...

Post by **roller24** » Sun May 28, 2023 10:09 am

I have no idea how it will play out or if it's even true. Russia and Wagner have had the appearance of dispute, but seem to be achieving an edge in the war. Wagner was on web complaining about being out of ammunition, but seemed to have enough to further slaughter Ukes attempting to take advantage of the reports. The old Ali rope-a-dope.
I watched a documentary on Lenin the other night, and wartime has seen several regime changes in Russia.
The region has always been rather fluid in that regard, as it pertains to geography and rulers.
Ukraine has been in and out of Russian rule in several eras.
I don't think they ever succeeded in holding on to independence.
Definitely something to monitor.

Post by **roller24** » Sun May 28, 2023 10:13 am

Interesting thing about Lenin. There were two factions of communists at the time he took power. The Bolsheviks and Mensheviks. Although allied up to this point, once in power, Lenin vilified the less authoritarian Mensheviks and brought Russia into the one party rule of authoritarianism.