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Incoming indictment for Putin's cheet-o puppet, Finland is joining NATO—which will more than double the NATO=protected border with Russia. What a massive strategic self-own. It was a good day. :tup:
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it's a good job none of the Finnish citizens burned pages of the koran huh!!

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Some Conjecture

Controlled Demolition

This war could possibly be the final step in establishing the new global order.
U.S. Dominance will end, because the U.S. Dollar will collapse.
The powers that be, know this will occur, and are trying to avoid a power vacuum, by establishing a NEW system which will secure their wealth.

They've already gotten out in front of dealing with the unavoidable civil unrest which will accompany the collapse. Covid lockdowns were instrumental in testing the limits of authoritarianism and mass information campaigns.

America has been driven to the brink of civil conflict as the democrat's tyranny and propaganda aim at establishing a one party nation. They have gone as far as to insinuate that republican voters are extremist and prone to violence against authority.

While western eyes are fixed on Ukraine, China is consolidating world wide power and influence, while steering world trade away from the U.S. Dollar. Biden is and will block any efforts by American nationalists to hinder China's goals. He is more than likely compromised by the millions of dollars China gave his family.

Here's how I see it playing out.

Chaos will ensue in western countries due to each of their governments enact policies that will only bring hardship to the civilian population.
The Dutch Farmers, The French Pensions, Mass immigration, Manufactured fuel shortages, massive inflation, moral decay etc. No consideration will be given to the strife caused as this chaos is needed to expedite the publics demand for resolution.

Banking institutions will begin to fail as the dollar becomes less significant. Shortages of food, and fuel will render even more despair and upheaval.

The war will escalate to an eminent nuclear threat and perhaps even some smaller nuclear strikes to hasten the descent.

Hope will be all but lost, and the people will grab any life line thrown to them.
The life line will be a new digital currency system based on compliance to social norms and the civil structure.
Once this monetary system is fully established, full control over the population will be achieved.
Those who do not comply with the new tyranny, will simply be made unable to conduct any commerce, and starved back into compliance.
All wars are banker's wars

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Prawn Connery wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:56 pm
I'm not even going to tell you to google all those authors and publications.
Yeah, its a bitch ain't it...
...four very different sources, all arriving at the same conclusion of who is to blame for starting this shit.
Ending with Mearsheimer, who is credited with being US's foremost authority on US/Russia relations.
Yet you're not buying it... :facepalm:...idiot.

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each of those four brings a keen individual insight to their argument

if your argument doesnt incorporate them all; if it ignores any one as it proceeds,
you dont have an argument...
the intolerance of the old order is emerging from the rosy mist in which it has hitherto been obscured.

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I would even go so far as to claim that this war, for whatever reason was paramount to U.S. foreign policy. I'd speculate that there are 30 billion plus reasons, plus a goal of some future windfall of captured natural resources.
So paramount, that in 2016 the DNC was tasked with ensuring a win for Clinton. Their first priority was to manipulate the republican electorate so that the weakest possible candidate would be nominated. That candidate was Trump. The DNC and mass media went to work. Trump received the lion share of news casts to a degree, that few other candidates were even noticed.
https://observer.com/2016/10/wikileaks- ... p-clinton/
When it became apparent in the polls that Trump was a viable contender, the primary objective changed to destroying Trump by any means necessary.
His stand on securing the border, became labeled as xenophobic racism. If there was even the slightest chance to belittle his character it was taken.
In the same moment, his supporters were shamed as deplorable, and of no higher character than the man himself.
By the time of the 2nd debate, Clintons lead was narrowing, so to steer the debate away from her indiscretions, she played the Russian card.
The Clinton campaign colluded and paid foreign actors to assemble a false dossier to slander Trump, and bring implications of being a foreign asset.
Absurd as that sounds, the public ate it up due to the already manufactured disdain for the man. Regardless of all of the mud slung, Trump was elected.
His presidency was plagued by the fake Russian investigation for the first 18 months of his term.
Then, he began involving himself in Ukraine, mainly due to the fact that the collusion hoax came out of the Ukrainian Embassy.
The establishment went into full panic mode, if Trump discovered the coup for a proxy war that was orchestrated, the whole plan would have been scuttled. Their reaction was to immediately start impeachment by saying the phone call was election interference, instead of what could have been the onset of an investigation into the activities of the deep state. Trump ceased inquiries from Ukraine, mission accomplished.
Again, for the most part Trump survived and his bid for re-election looked like a sure thing. PANIC set in and the globalist were against the wall.
This is when the status quo and world sculptures pulled out the big guns.
Covid seems to have been exactly what the left needed to pull of the most discredited election in US History.
The expense of this crime of the century, was collateral damage that all but crippled the economy.
Biden was elected, and the operation in Ukraine was back in US control. The situation was escalated from a surge in assistance and Putin invaded the east.
Trump however was never out of the picture. The arrows kept coming with tribunal hearings on Jan 6, A raid on Trumps home, and numerous politically motivated indictments, supreme court leaks, etc.
This will continue until Trump steps down or dies. Another Trump term is not an option.
God help us if he gets nominated that will surely triple time escalation on this war.
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Sean Penn has done a complete 180 from viewpoint expressed in this movie.
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biofriendly ecological uranium recycling :grin:
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well, Putin has just cancelled $20 billion dollar debt Africa owed Russia..

he knows how to make friends huh!!

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People....people are easily fooled...
...they inhale the propaganda hook, line, and sinker...and run with it all day. :facepalm:

Hmm, if only we had some way of being completely objective and logical in analyzing the war...
Ut-oh, someone's on to something...you can fool people, but AI is a different story...



But..but, that's going to be problematic...
...if it sees through those lies so easily, what's going to happen when the lies are even more obvious?...







In completely unrelated news, a thousand CEO's asked for the <pause> button to be hit on AI development...



...until after a propaganda module has been coded in to it. :whistle:

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