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It's a party blunder this time...

Last time, after the Clinton debacle, the party tried to put Keith Ellison as Chair...which would have been a good choice. But then Obama stepped in and forced Tom Perez on the party instead...and he has proven to be a miserable failure. So now Biden is picking his replacement...
Jaime Harrison - DNC Chair

Harrison broke U.S. Senate campaign fundraising record by raising $109 million.
Harrison lost the election to Lindsey Graham by over ten percentage points...

...working for Jim Clyburn as his director of floor operations while Clyburn was the Majority Whip of the United States House of Representatives. Harrison went on to serve as executive director of the House Democratic Caucus and the vice chair of the South Carolina Democratic Party. He later served as a lobbyist for the Podesta Group. His clients at the Podesta Group included banks, such as Bank of America and Wells Fargo, Berkshire Hathaway, pharmaceutical companies, casinos, the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity, and Walmart, among others.

He defended his eight-year record at the Podesta Group, saying, "It's how I pay back the $160,000 of student loan debt."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaime_Harrison" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So, he sets fundraising records...but still loses by a large margin.
Looks like this is some payback to Clyburn for his endorsement of Biden.
Podesta puts him in the Clinton camp.
And the list of clients lets us know who's interests he'll be working for.

Going back to the same....only worse. :facepalm:

But wait!...there's more...
He also picked MI governor Gretchen Whitmer as one of the co-chairs. A little payback for not giving her the VP slot. She has mishandled the Flint water prosecutions...she has non-stop exceded her authority during the pandemic...there have been non-stop efforts to have her recalled since the day she took office. Her behavior as governor has been very divisive to our community.

Joe sure is shaping the party in his image. :frown:

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Intrinsic wrote:
"Ahhh so you have chosen to bite already. Wow, that didn't take long. I didn't really think it would. You guys are so predictable"
As opposed to ignoring you cuz yanno not wanting to deal with same old debunked shit. ..

... looks around for Merry's Dunedain dagger.

"You don't think the Dems are lying(or have never lied) too you."
No. I've pointed it out many times here.
"To answer one of your questions ...Yeah he did help me...he gave me the best many economy is years for one, he put more money in my pay check, gas prices were as low as I've seen them in many years. Great stock market for my 401K, See these are all tangible things that directly benefited me as an individual. "
if you vouch for the cause and effect. Cool.
What would happen if Joe Biden really DIDN'T win the election?? Now lets play devils advocate here..Would you accept the results?
No. You would riot(c'mon you know you would)."
You got some weird ideas about me. I didn't vote for Hillary but no one rioted then. I'll tell you what, I'm dead set against electoral, vote suppression, gerrymandering rigging white supremacist shit.
And I didn't riot. as Prawn noted, historical evidence seyz yer wrong.

Huh are you saying you did riot?

Fwiw Trump bitches stormed the capitol as Prawns pawns in Trump's coup d'etat. Played as suckers. Trump said he was going with 'em too. Hook Line & Sinker.
Please don't tell me you're guys vision for America is any better than mine or Trumps. As far as I am concerned the left has every bit the power to destroy as much as the right. Stalin would tell you so.. So would Hitler. Both sides have been taking turns fucking us for 100 years."
I think that's kinda the general view here. But HelI i don't even know what your vision for America is. White?
"UnSustainability should be your biggest fear "
It is. But I'm armchair ecologist. Yanno the big picture not yer petty politics.
Why are you bringing race into this? Why would my vision of America be White? Pretty presumptuous statement considering you don't even know me....no idea where you came up with that..unless of course your just done with this, and that would be fine with me.

You say I have you pegged wrong . because I don't know you. Just like you don't know me..Please you have the floor..
explain your vision for America. I'd like to hear it.(thats genuine by the way)

I kinda think Trump is now becoming almost the secondary issue, almost a no issue. What his presidency exposed is what now concerns me. freedom of speech being taken away, the same freedom you enjoy by the way.. look at whats going on with big tech...
A totally biased bullshit mainstream media that is engaged in some weird psychological warfare against it's own audience..

Toe that party line.

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@ bob I don't understand chair, chair of what? What are their duties? Does that mean Biden is picking Democratic Party positions. Is that a president's prerogative?

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Why are you bringing race into this? Why would my vision of America be White? Pretty presumptuous statement considering you don't even know me....no idea where you came up with that..unless of course your just done with this, and that would be fine with me.
Huh it wasn't a statement it was a question. that's the point I don't know. that's why I asked.
I didn't think so, I hoped not , but now methinks tho protest too much.

My vision of America, well for people in General:
Decisions based on science, using the scientific method 4 problem solving. Reason. sustainable economy. Respect
Empathy. An educated population. Socialism, that is structures that are needed by people should be owned by the people. Not the bullshit trumpian Mccarthism right wing garbage 180 degree Distorted lie. This does not exclude capitalism, I have an essay here somewhere using the United States Forest Service in a real life example of socialism and capitalism married and works. Sustainable. Compared to a what happened to land run for profit. I'm saying if you want to talk socialism be sure you understand it.

Those are a few of the things I like.

Stay, go whatever, I will track you down regardless at the Cabana bwaaa haaaaa haa...
Joking. You don't have to respond you can just rant, go off on a tangent.
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Intrinsic wrote:@ bob I don't understand chair, chair of what? What are their duties? Does that mean Biden is picking Democratic Party positions. Is that a president's prerogative?
Why you play dumb so much? You know the party votes...you also know who's nominations they'll vote for. The guy still sucks. And that will be a detriment to the party doing the right things for it's constituency. These two people will not be serving our best interests...they will be serving their own.

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Intrinsic wrote:@ bob I don't understand chair, chair of what? What are their duties? Does that mean Biden is picking Democratic Party positions. Is that a president's prerogative?
Why you play dumb so much? You know the party votes...you also know who's nominations they'll vote for. The guy still sucks. And that will be a detriment to the party doing the right things for it's constituency. These two people will not be serving our best interests...they will be serving their own.
I guess its my fault for joking around so much, but it was a sincere question when it comes to Party politics, I am willfully ignorant. I still don't know what 'chair' means. guess I could Google it. Probably meaningless, whatever :dunno:

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Really? You mean you've forgotten how Debbie Wasserman Schultz (along with 3 other DNC officers) was forced out of the position on the day before the convention because e-mails revealed by Wikileaks showed she had colluded with Clinton to rig the primaries? It was pretty big news. Or how aboot how the DNC, under Tom Perez's direction, got caught committing election fraud in the Iowa caucuses? That was pretty big news too. Seems like you would have learned aboot the chair of the party during one of those events. But, to cut down on your google search time...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrati ... _Committee" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I still think you're trying to bait me for something. :p

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Nup, as I've said many times before Homie don't play Party politics.

If I saw any of that news Shrugged It Off yet more corrupt Party politics, worthless to consider.

I was being polite if ya thought it was important, maybe it was. Yeah well if it's just that sort of party bullshit I don't care. sorry.

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Butcher Bob wrote:Biden's blunders...
...let's keep track. :)

I once heard a quote from a coach..."If you're not losing 50% of the time, you're not going to get any better.". It sounds a bit nuts on first glance, until you realize the context. He was pointing out that if you do not put your abilities up against real challenges, to identify weaknesses and failures, you will never improve. And I concur whole-heartedly, so I would like to apply that philosophy to Biden's presidency.

If you see Biden fuk up, post it up. But let's leave rumorous pissing match material out of it, and stick to sourced information. If sourced info is wrong, we can hash that out here. We can have opinions aboot things, but they should be based on reality.


I'm going to start with an area of personal interest to me, Biden's "economic team" cabinet appointments...
Janet Yellen - Secretary of the Treasury

2014 - 2018 ... Chair of the Federal Reserve
2010 - 2014 ... Vice chair of the Federal Reserve
2004 - 2010 ... President of the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco
1997 - 1999 ... Chair of the White House Council of Economic Advisers under President Bill Clinton
1994 - 1997 ... Federal Reserve Board Governor

Following her appointment to the Federal Reserve in 2004, she spoke publicly and in meetings of the Fed's monetary policy committee, about her concern about the potential consequences of the boom in housing prices.[22] However, Yellen did not lead the San Francisco Fed to "move to check [the] increasingly indiscriminate lending" of Countrywide Financial, the largest lender in the U.S.[23]

In a 2005 speech in San Francisco, Yellen argued against deflating the housing bubble because "arguments against trying to deflate a bubble outweigh those in favor of it" and predicted that the housing bubble "could be large enough to feel like a good-sized bump in the road, but the economy would likely be able to absorb the shock."[24]

On April 28, 2010, President Obama nominated Yellen...as vice-chair of the Federal Reserve...
Yellen simultaneously began a 14-year term as a member of the Federal Reserve Board that will expire on January 31, 2024.

...while Yellen was chair of the Federal Reserve...Yellen began the process of reversing some of the policies that had been enacted in response to the subprime mortgage crisis of 2008.

On June 27, 2017, Yellen generated controversy when she stated that she did not expect another financial crisis "in our lifetime."

Yellen was one of the signees of a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Yellen" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Adewale "Wally" Adeyemo - Deputy Secretary of the Treasury

2019 - present ... first president of the Obama Foundation

...worked as the chief negotiator for the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_Adeyemo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neera Tanden - Director of the Office of Management and Budget

She is the president of the Center for American Progress...where she has served in different capacities since 2003.

Tanden has worked on several Democratic presidential campaigns, including those of Michael Dukakis in 1988, Bill Clinton in 1992, and Barack Obama in 2008. Tanden advised Hillary Clinton's successful 2016 primary campaign and unsuccessful 2016 general election campaign. She was also a senior staffer on Clinton's unsuccessful campaign for the 2008 Democratic nomination. During the Obama administration, Tanden helped draft the Affordable Care Act.

She has been described as one of the "key architects" of the Affordable Care Act.

In 2003, Tanden had a central role in the founding of the Center for American Progress (CAP).
In October 2011, Tanden succeeded John Podesta as CAP's president and CEO.

In 2018, reports emerged that Tanden had revealed the first name of a CAP employee complaining of sexual harassment.

She is regarded as a loyalist and confidante of Bill and Hillary Clinton.

...she opposes single-payer healthcare, including Medicare for All proposals.

Tanden has been a vocal critic of U.S. Senator and former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, his policy proposals, and his supporters.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neera_Tanden" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cecilia Rouse - Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers

Rouse served as a member of President Barack Obama's Council of Economic Advisers from 2009 to 2011. Prior to serving in the Obama Administration, Rouse served in the National Economic Council under President Bill Clinton from 1998 to 1999.

She is...a director of the T. Rowe Price Equity Mutual Funds and an Advisory Board Member of the T. Rowe Price Fixed Income Mutual Funds.

Rouse signed a 2018 amici curiae brief that expressed support for Harvard University in the Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard lawsuit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecilia_Rouse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm just scratching the surface with these folks...it's just commonly accepted info from Wiki. I'm sure I will be doing more thorough digging on Yellen and Tanden as we go. And yeah, I cherry picked info...because I am only looking for things that I consider to be weaknesses/failures.

Yellen...
...has spent almost her entire career with the Federal Reserve in some capacity, most of it in top positions.
...recognized, but failed to act on, the housing bubble that caused the 2008/2009 crash.
...retracted safeguards put in place as a result of that crash, which has/is causing another crash, that she predicted we would never see in our lifetimes.
...endorsed racial discrimination at Harvard.

Adeyemo...
...is heavily tied to Obama policies, which arguably brought us Trump.
...was a key architect of the extremely flawed TPP.

Tanden...
...is CAP.
...is a partisan political player, involved with more than half of the presidential campaigns in the last three decades.
...was a key architect of what most consider to be a very flawed ACA.
...doxed an anonymous sexual harassment victim.
...is opposed to M4A.
...is opposed to all of the progressive policies Sanders advocates for.

Rouse...
...was an advisor to Clinton's economic policies that caused the 2008/2009 crash.
...was an advisor to Obama's economic policies that caused the crash we are currently experiencing.
...has a current conflict of interest with her positions in a capital/debt investment company.
...endorsed racial discrimination at Harvard.

These things are huge red flags to me.

The Secretary of the Treasury is supposed to represent the country's interests when dealing with the Fed. Giving that position to Yellen is akin to giving robbers unfettered access to the vault. Her background leads me to believe she will act in the best interest of the Fed, not the country. Not that she could even get things right when they really matter anyways. And she gets a yes man for a side kick.

If you think congress and the president have the most control over the country's spending, then you do not understand what the OMB does. They have more influence on the budget than anyone else in the process. Tanden is a pro-war advocate...who publically supported military action in Libya, so that we could take their oil. But when it comes to money spent on citizens...she has publically stated that she believes that social security, medicare, and medicaid all need cuts...has publically opposed social programs like M4A, college, college debt forgiveness, etc. that Sanders advocates in favor of.

Rouse is now going to be Biden's top economic advisor...after helping Clinton get it wrong...and then helping Obama get it wrong. But I'll bet the private firm she's serving did well before, are doing well now, and will continue to do well for the foreseeable future, no matter what.


None of these top finance/economic appointments are good for the citizens of this country. :(
Hello BB! :wave:

So good to see you're still active here. :tup: And even better you're not glossing over President Biden's nearly 50 years of being on the wrong side of every policy presented him :tup:

Good work, my friend! *I'll be dipping my toe into the water after I get some other matters sorted out :wink:*

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