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Lrus007 wrote:i figured there is maybe a dozen people here.
so where's our free lights ? also fire sale was a joke..
since your country is on fire.
Ah, and here I was thinking y'all wanted a spam discount. :spam:

Luckily, I don't live in any of the bushfire regions.
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New "High Light" LED boards in production

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so i visited your sale site and had the numbers you posted on my mind, but i was either blind or more dumb than i already am .... :facepalm:

anyways i saw 2 versions of pcbs, red pcbs and uv pcbs, which is practical when you adjust your photons to your needs, like lets say the red ones for production and yield with fat indicas for example, or the uv for quality and lets say adjusted extreme sativas from the equator for example

but ... but ....

like most of us like diversity (no problem for me to have a titans haze standing next to a black domina - as i as a grower am able to adjust the domina hightwise to the titans in the means of lifting her pot so that both top buds have the same distance to the "photon producer" hehehe , luckily i am not tied to a fixed system which is nice for 1 strain crops only where everything is cloned to achieve the same morphological look) i am missing a pcb which has both chips uv and red as i want the best quality AND the most yield

further on i would like to have control of red and blue with a separate timer included, example :

white is always 12/12 , but i would like to control far red giving the plants 13/11 far red, so when white shuts of at 12/12, far red stays on an extra hour longer, considering uv, i would like to have em one day on the next day off, also i want to give only 6 hours of blue during "noon time"

that would be my starting light recipe for quality and yield, for sativas and for indicas, as well for everything else in between

as far as i understand the problem, it would have to run with separate drivers, i think your versions are fixed with one driver to make it more user friendly, and it depends on the driver that all 3 "colors" cant be driven with only one driver, and it would be a pita (for beginners) to have the possibility to control all 3 (uv,whit,red) especially with an integrated timer , seperatly for all 3

im sure you understand this problem, which starts occurring when growers dive more into photon science

will there be a chance to develop such a pcb with all 3 , having each one a timer and ideally only 1 driver?
im aware that a "control module" has to be put between driver and chip, but that would be my "dream configuration" white at 2500K - 3500K , uv (near uv , fuck it) at some 250nm - 350nm , and far red at 720nm , each a separate timer (which is capable doing a whole digital week, not just a daily 24h routine) and only 1 driver to keep wires at bay and to reduce confusion

its no problem to have this configuration the chaotic way (3 boards, 3 timers , 3 drivers) , but i would like to have it the professional version/choice

how high is the possibility to develop this "best" solution , to have this all in one , included with separate dimming (as i would like to give uv during veg too, but with less power than lets say in the last 3 weeks, where i would crank up blue to the max )

i wish i wish i wish ..... i mean im still in x-mas mood and new year was also around the corner where we all have better and bigger plans for this new year :tup:

so ?

when , what and how much ?

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Re: New "High Light" LED boards in production

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Hey deran, pretty much everything you mentioned has been considered. In fact, we've been talking about this a bit and concluded that the future of LED lighting will be to do many of the things you've suggested in an effort to mimic natural sunlight.

You are right that when the High Light boards were designed, they were specifically designed to have everything on one channel for economy and ease of use. And the features do do work: UV and near-UV for cannabinoids and terpenes, and a better red:far red ratio for yields.

There are multi-channel boards already on the maket, but as you say they need separate drivers linked to a programmable timer. I do know of multi-channel, programmable drivers, but we're not sure about their reliability at this stage.

ChilLed was one of the first LED manufacturers to do this and they still have a few systems left here: https://chilledgrowlights.com/our-produ ... controller" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

These systems use separate drivers and one modular controller that controls each of the three channels. One channel is white, the other UV and the other deep red (though it should really be far red, IMO).

Unfortunately they don't make these systems anymore because I'm guessing most growers weren't ready for it, and they were expensive and a bit complicated for the average punter.

Expense and market demand are the biggest hurdles. It's hard enough trying to convince growers that LEDs outperform HIDs – many are stuck in their ways – and even harder to convince them that they are worth the extra money.

So the short answer is yes, we could probably build you a system as described, but it would cost you. Have a look at the link I posted and have a look around ChilLed's site, including here: https://chilledgrowlights.com/yield-max ... ation-tool" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If we were to do something like the above, my idea would be to have three separate LED products:

* A large full-spectrum white-phosphor LED panel or multiple strips with added 660nm for the main lighting channel and peak efficiency that would double as a stand-alone grow light;

* A near-UV/UVA strip (UV LEDs are another issue, as they are expensive and degrade fast – which is why we use near-UV LEDs) covering around 390-430nm.

* A dedicated Far Red channel for the Emerson and initiator effects.

Each product would require its own driver, but in an ideal world the UV and Far red strips would use similar drivers.

I would not put everything one one board as ChilLed did, as it locks the end user into that system and I really don't know if the market's big enough for that right now (as ChilLed likely discovered).

Having a dedicated white/red board would cater for most growers, whilst selling supplements would cater to those who want to take things further without impeding main board sales. We believe near-UV in the 400-430nm range is just as effective at stimulating cannabinoid and terpene production, and that is what the recent side-by-side test against UVA/UVB reptile bulbs has shown.

As always, it comes down to a balance between technology and market forces.

But hey, if you want us to build you something, we'll see what we can do :winky:
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OK, so looking at ChilLED's Gen2 Controller, it looks like there is a fourth channel for Far Red that energizes for 15 mins after lights off, but I'd want it for 15 mins prior to lights-on as well, so I'd probably just use three channels for white/660nm, UVA and Far Red.

There are other driver control systems out there, but I haven't looked into them lately, so the above is just one example.

We could build you something based on this or at least give you a list of parts if you wanted to build your own. We don't have a lot of our own products at the moment, but that will change. And I know where to get good, cheap strips custom-made by another Aussie supplier.


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what about the spider farms lights??, ive seen a few reviews on youtube.. the dimming function is a bit fiddly sint it, you gotta have to unscrew the ballast and get a Philips screwdriver and turn anti-clockwise and then screw the ballast back again, surely there is a much easier way than that.....

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There is. Depending on the driver, you can add an external potentiometer (dimmer). There are two issues with that: the drivers are usually IP65 or IP67 rated, but the external dimmer is not (you have to waterproof it yourself); and most growers, once they've set their lights, hardly touch the dimmer again. So it's not like you are constantly playing with the dimmer anyway. Generally it is set and forget.

If you do need to adjust the dimmer, in reality all you are doing is removing a rubber cap, turning a screw, and putting the cap back on. It's not that hard.
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Prawn Connery wrote:Following on from this thread: viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12075" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yep, more spam Munchy :toker1:
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As we sold out of the first run of Aussie-made High Light LED boards, we decided to make another production run. That run has sold pretty well and so the next logical step was to make a business venture out of it.

So we now have a new company – Grow Lights Australia – and a new website: http://www.growlightsaustralia.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The first pic is a room full of High Lights in Australia that produces 10-12lb every two months with 3200W of LED

The second photo was part of a side-by-side grow in Oregon that produced over 1200g in a 4x4. There were four tents in total, including a control tent, interestingly all three test tents yielded about the same. The main difference was the High Lights did it in a week less time (because they have a better Red:Far Red ratio), and with fewer watts (670W vs up to 730W) than the others.

Perhaps the most interesting thing to come out of the test were the cannabinoid and terpene test results. The High Lights produced very similar figures to the other tents . . . except the other tents had supplmental UVB and UVA, and the High Lights had none – they have near-UV/UVA LEDs already built into them.

Here are the results. The bold figures are the Quantum Boards (QB) used along with the added supplements. If you guys know anything about LEDs, you'll know Quantum Boards are the standard. Well, not any more.


6 x QB96 Elite, 1 x 28 diode FR bar, 2 x 4’ T5 30% UVA & 6% UVB
Total THC: 19.8%
Total CBD: 0.7%
Total Terpenes: 4.7%


8 x QB288, 4 x QB35, 1 x 28 diode FR bar, 2 x 4’ T5 30% UVA & 6% UVB
Total THC: 18.7%
Total CBD: 0.63%
Total Terpenes: 5.0%


8 x High Light UV
Total THC: 19.1%
Total CBD: 0.64%
Total Terpenes: 4.8%


Control – 3'x3' room with 4 x QB96, 4 x rapidled FR pucks, NO UV
Total THC: 16.6%
Total CBD: 0.52%
Total Terpenes: 3.9%

Bottom line is, these things work and you guys got to see them first :tup:

Well I mean fuck, it's not like I was going to waste my time starting a new Planet Ganja or anything :gadday:
Hey Prawn! :wave:

Once I decided to start growing again I came back to a place I knew (like a car chase where the driver inevitably returns to the neighborhood where they're familiar with the surroundings! :roflmao: ).

I came back specifically because I was aware of the dramatic advances in LED grow lights since my last grow (I still have my old gear), I wasn't paying particular attention to it, but I remained aware of the advances.

It's fantastic you've been able to venture out into commercial business. That's awesome!

I have a couple of questions. I went to your site and it gives dimension of the LED units themselves but I don't see how many plants each unit can support. You know, like a Xw light can grow X plants through flower.

Did I scan the text too quickly and just missed that information? There was some (A LOT) language I'm unfamiliar with, to be honest...so maybe it is in there and I just missed it.

And just one more thing, if you don't mind. The options. Why would "Splash-Proof LEDs" be necessary? I mean, you'd have to have a pool party splashing around to even expose the LEDs to any fluids, wouldn't you? I grew Hydro and I don't recall any wild splashing - it's been a long time, though ;-)

Why would a "External Dimmer (Not waterproof)" be necessary?

IF you can point me to this information you don't have to recite it to me, that would be very helpful!

I do wish you all the best in your venture, sincerely!

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Re: New "High Light" LED boards in production

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Prawn - Donde estas? DO u have any intesne UV-B in ur boards? I made a few but understand the lifespan of UVB is relatively low comparatively to UVA. I see there is some UVB in ur testing. Also how about UVC? Have you tried utilizing in the boards to help rid of Powdery Mildew and possible other spore?

Also it is more harmful to humans but I must say experiment show UVB bang Trich Production.

I test run an LEP (Plasma) unit which has UV-B spectrum. Difference is notable :smoke:

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