Hands up those who think this latest whistleblower is real

smokebreaks · Post by **smokebreaks** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:04 am

Fuck Trump.

And those who believe a god damn word that manages to come out of his mouth.

Evangelicals Christian Conservatives — especially those who are giddy with the fuck your feelings mantra as they celebrate the raw dogging pornstars and bullshit that comes with hypocrisy

Intrinsic · Post by **Intrinsic** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:05 am

Thank you. Well said. Even though just stating the obvious

Post by **Jesús Malverde** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:41 pm

Pointlessly kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, "mistakes were made, no problem, here's a cough drop"; ask for an investigation into an obvious bribe made for the VPs crackhead son, "dear god, the humanity! Impeach! Impeach! Impeach!"

I take it as a given that Trump is a lying sleaze, but he isn't as far as i know a war criminal who has destroyed nations and recklessly killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Edward Snowden showed how under Obama the Fourth Amendment was left in tatters by the NSA's dragnet surveillance program, but the exact same people calling for Trump's impeachment over asking for an investigation, still adore Obama who refused to prosecute war criminals and torturers, thus aiding and abetting them.

If you were crying for Obama's impeachment for his exponentially worse behavior and you are now calling for Trump's impeachment, congratulations you at least have some moral foundations for your outrage; if you are among those who let Obama slide for his horrific crimes and are completely outraged by Trump's asking for an investigation, then you have no moral basis— you are an amoral partisan hack.

Trump is a philistine, a liar, a buffoon, a blowhard, an egomaniac, a hypocrite and on and on. I won't defend him. But we've had far worse crimes committed by recent Presidents than anything Trump has yet done, and if you don't recognize this, you aren't recognizing reality.

Intrinsic · Post by **Intrinsic** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:23 pm

So you don't want to discuss the truth and facts as I was inviting you to
The truths that have come out of the Congressional hearings: explaining what is impeachable under the Constitution

What are the sworn duties of Congress

What are the impeachable offenses Trump did

And last but not least what Trump himself said he did and what his intent was

But if you are set in your way don't want to learn..
I will have the joy of pointing out all the logical fallacy in your last statement, out and out false hoods and continued misinformation you're spreading
And in the process maybe just maybe you'll actually learn why Trump should constitutionally be impeached

If no one beats me to it

Intrinsic · Post by **Intrinsic** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:36 pm

Hey smokes, besides the obvious, it kind of begs the question i got to ask you since for some odd reason your opinion matters to me. Do you think Trump abused his powers inviting a foreign powers into elections and is impeachable . Also should Trump be be impeached?

Intrinsic · Post by **Intrinsic** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 3:13 pm

Okay the question is answered the whistle blower was real.

And regardless of any other outcome he did good.
He got Congress alerted to the illegal withholding the funds that was their sole right to appropriate to Ukraine

It got Congress to start a new legislation to release those funds forcing the presidents hand to release them before it was out of his hands, literally within 24 hours of the law being enacted.

Barely in time before the clock ran out and Ukraine would have been shorted

He did good.
thank you whomever you are regardless of whatever secret coup you belong to.

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:19 pm

Im completely with bob and you know whow
With seeing the force behind this being
An old and seriously villanous aspect of
The entrenched unassailable order

But we should dismiss its reaching out
When
Something far worse than what weve
Been subjected to for the last century
Is rearing itr head

Chiefly the bare constraints to which theyve been
Agree to
Being dismissed with prejudice

That the first ingredient in
Making it much easyier to perpetrate
Fars worse than whats been usual
To ramp up and described acceptably

As unavoidable...

Yes there is a point

Nows no time to rest with it...

Post by **Jesús Malverde** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:24 pm

The whistlebower has been d0xxed, he's formally a young CIA staffer working in the WH. I can't remember his name but nobody is denying it, it's been out for weeks. You can look it up on any source you trust.

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:29 pm

Im completely with bob and you know whow
With seeing the force behind this being
An old and seriously villanous aspect of
The entrenched unassailable order

But we should dismiss its reaching out
When
Something far worse than what weve
Been subjected to for the last century
Is rearing itr head

Chiefly the bare constraints to which theyve been
Agree to
Being dismissed with prejudice

That the first ingredient in
Making it much easyier to perpetrate
Fars worse than whats been usual
To ramp up and described acceptably

As unavoidable...

Yes there is a point

Nows no time to rest with it...

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:44 pm

Yeah, Trump is so stupid that even though being completely devoid of any political experience, he was able to outwit over a dozen seasoned politicians and get elected. So what does that say aboot them?

Clinton ran with a platform that Trump was laughable and his supporters are deplorable, she took control of the DNC and committed election fraud, and still she lost to this 'idiot'. So what does that say aboot her?

You are missing a golden opportunity to address the corruption that runs rampant in our political system, because you are still butt hurt that your candidate lost to a clown. After all, Trump is a russian asset...and so is Jill Stein...and Tulsi...and appearantly Bernie is too.

We lost, Trump colaberated with Russia!.........No evidence.
We just need an investigation..........No evidence.
We just need to see the report...........No evidence.
We just need the head of the investigation to testify.........No evidence.
Well Trump obstructed justice, report says so.......No, report says might have, but congress would have to take that up.
Impeach Trump, for something in the Ukraine........Wait, what? I thought you were going on aboot obstruction?
No, Trump attacked Biden.........Aboot corruption?
Yes, this is about Trump's corruption.........As it relates to Biden's corruption?
No, that's legal...........So the system is broken.

So forgive me if I treat this like a boy who cried wolf senerio, and would rather spend these efforts to fix the real problem at hand. In the end Trump will not be removed. His base of support has not faultered. Independants' interest in impeachment declines as the procedings unfold. And all this while you are giving Trump more free publicity than he could dream of.