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Looks like the whistleblower is real. can't throw a rock without hitting a new Washingtonian confirming the original whistleblower story/suspicions

Irony that trumps downfall is tipped by his end-the-endless-wars stance. I agree with the sentiment, but of course he totally blundered it making it worse, typical modus operandi of his.. But Whatever, it takes to rid us of the fake prez.
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Lrus007 wrote:i dono does not look like trump in that photo
rotflmao…

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Immediately after Attorney General William Barr released his misleading letter describing the Mueller report, Trump and his fixer Rudy Giuliani went back to work doing exactly what Trump had been suspected of doing all along: inviting foreign interference in an American presidential election. This time Trump and his accomplices had the full force of the U.S. government to bargain with and they just went for it. When the whistleblower came forward, it was as if the Democrats and much of the public collectively said, “You’ve got to be kidding — he did it again?”

If anything, this Ukraine business makes it clear that the suspicions raised but unproven in the first volume of the Mueller report were likely true, and that the president’s repeated obstruction of justice during the Mueller probe was remarkably effective. Working with a foreign government to smear an opponent is by now a patented Trump strategy.

its as IF mueller didnt really want his report to amount to anything!!!


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If there was any doubt that Trump demanded a quid pro quo in that notorious phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, Taylor put that to rest. He started his job at the U.S. embassy in Kyiv — technically as interim chargé d’affaires — in June of this year and immediately found that Ukraine policy was running on two tracks, one of them official and the other “highly irregular.” That one was led by Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, with the assistance of U.S. ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland, special Ukraine envoy Kurt Volker and Energy Secretary Rick Perry (who actually called themselves “the Three Amigos.”)


At first they seemed to be heading in the same direction but by July Taylor knew that something was up. Zelensky was desperate for a meeting with Trump, preferably at the White House, and Taylor learned that it was “conditioned on the investigations of Burisma [the company that employed Hunter Biden] and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections.”



Taylor added important new information about that demand:

Ambassador Sondland also told me that he now recognized that he had made a mistake by earlier telling the Ukrainian officials to whom he spoke that a White House meeting with President Zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of investigations — in fact, Ambassador Sondland said, “everything” was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance. He said that President Trump wanted President Zelensky “in a public box” by making a public statement about ordering such investigations.
Taylor was told that Trump believed “President Zelenskyy should want to do this himself.”


Taylor became even more alarmed. He said that both Sondland and Volcker at different times explained that “when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone who owes him something the businessman asks that person to pay up before signing the check.” From Taylor’s opening statement:

I argued to both that the explanation made no sense: the Ukrainians did not “owe” President Trump anything, and holding up security assistance for domestic political gain was “crazy,” as I had said in my text message to Ambassadors Sondland and Volker on September 9.


Taylor backed up the testimony of former National Security Council official Fiona Hill, who has testified that former national security adviser John Bolton didn’t want anything to do with what he called Giuliani’s “drug deal” and opposed the phone call between Trump and Zelensky because it would be “a disaster.” Bolton told Taylor to inform Pompeo of his concerns, which he did, in a detailed cable. He never heard back.



Taylor’s testimony, combined with that of all the others who were involved in Ukraine policy last summer, shows that after successfully obstructing the Mueller investigation and rendering the prosecutors unable to find enough evidence to prove a conspiracy in 2016, Trump believed he could get away with anything. The frightening part is that if it hadn’t been for the as-yet-unidentified whistleblower, he very likely would have.
We know that Trump currently has his attorney general running all over the world looking for evidence outside the usual law enforcement channels to prove the Russia investigation never should have happened. How many other “irregular” projects do you suppose he’s been running? I suspect the answer lies in that super-secret vault with all the other phone calls nobody is allowed to see.
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"It was a doctored transcript. The White House cut out some of his words, refused to restore them, and hid the transcript in a secure server."



no defense left on the merits
even dick had to stop posting...

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That explains why he was so adamant that it was a word for word ,coma 4 coma transcription.
Does he ever tell the truth?

Since they can't attack the facts they're attacking the sources. First the source informing of the redacted transcripts
And jes now The Republicans were just reprimanded for trying to suss Out The Whistleblower identity again just to attack the person and not the fact of what Trump did

Yanno apologist

As I said earlier it wasn't the crime of burglary that got Nixon out, it was the stonewalling, the obstructionism.

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at least the opposition has finally outted itself as being ENTIRELY interested in destroying the institution!
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the mistake the democratic party
and its voters are making
is assuming their opposition
is interested in a fair fight

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bring it!

gonna be pissed
to find
how many of the guns
they though were their own

their staring down

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bentech wrote:what was the cheat?

"cheating" would be the world league understandment about the trump regime

and how his 'council' have stopped doing their jobs and instead used their position to hide further and protect his cooption of other branches authorities and roles

and that's not a cheat???

btw,
even my family knows hes a ruthless lying law breaker

AND THEY LOVE HIM FOR IT!!!!!!!

they say "its been done to use for decades ALL the way back to Roosevelt!!!!
and we gave them minorities WAY TO MUCH in the 60's when we agreed
to move a few steps closer to equal rights and protections for them

THEY want all that shit back from the undeserving
so lying cheating and destruction of the civil state is aok with them

that's the cheat the miscreatants are involved in loving

..
Insightful, Thanks I think that helps me understand the mindset:
He is a lying asshole cheat. But he's our lying asshole cheat.

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