see his press conference today?

Oldjoints · Post by **Oldjoints** » Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:17 pm

smokebreaks wrote:Where’s that migrant caravan when you need it?

Building a wall?

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:12 am

you know if it wasn't for all the trump lovers bringing Hillary and Obama every chance they get that fucking duel would be dead and buried by now...

bob musta missed it but hax and I had a lively discussion back in 06' about Obama right after he addressed the nation on behalf of his party following one of the hoedowns bush had just administered

he was making sure everyone knew not to be afraid of him doing what he was in the process of convincing an electorate he was going to. in 06' he explained quite convincingly he wasn't going to do any of those things

"im just saying that shit; nothing going to actually fucking happen" were his exact words I believe

"The only thing you are pointing out is your ignorance of the situation at hand."

point to the army on the ground itching to be activated which Clinton was speaking to please...

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:15 am

After electing a black president, with a Muslim name, TWICE...you now call the voters racist. After Obama & Clinton signed off on providing Russia with 20% of our weapons grade plutonium production...you say Trump is colluding with Russia. After Obama's resurrection of the espionage act to persecute the press...you now point to Trump bad mouthing them as being the real problem. Never mind that Bill opened the door for commercial banks to gamble, and when they went broke because of that, Obama rewarded them with trillions of dollars while letting 5.2 million families get put out of their homes. Never mind that dems claim to have provided 30 million with health insurance, when in fact they simply criminalized NOT having it. Never mind Obama's Peace Prize, when in fact he took us from 2 wars to 7. Never mind that the narcissistic, war mongering Clinton had no identifiable personality or platform. Never mind that I'm a progressive upset with the demo-cunts thwarting of the democratic process.

Never mind all that shit.....I'm obviously a Trump supporter.

Son, the democrats MADE that army...their refusal to recognize that will continue to grow that army. And now you are acting as a recruiter for them. Keep this shit up, and you're going to get Trump elected again.

smokebreaks · Post by **smokebreaks** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:34 pm

Uhm Bob, it was actually GWB who had the check made out to Wall Street and Hank Paulson before he left office. Obama just made sure it was cashed and doled out the excess they received at closing.

Post by **Jesús Malverde** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:36 pm

Butcher Bob wrote:Clinton's rigging of an election, admitted by DNC lawyers...the CIA's warrant-less wire tapping of individuals' phones, TVs, and computers...Obama's persecution of media that informs the citizens of their dirty deeds... These are the things you blatantly excuse, while you talk circles of nonsense trying to rile your side to a false rallying cry. And you wonder why Trump won...why he treats the press poorly...why upset citizens respond so violently. You blame Trump with your cries of 'Russia, Russia, Russia', instead of focusing inward on monumental problems within your own side that caused all this shit in the first place. You are the MC telling the audience to ignore the explosions going on all around them, to instead focus on some sissy slap-fest being performed on stage. The only thing you are pointing out is your ignorance of the situation at hand.

Bang on, keep preaching the truth.

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:43 pm

well then we got bob and hax throwing their weight behind trumps agenda
smokes slides in to ride the rails

frankly
those who need convincing that there is an erudite argument available right now about the leading edge of villainry in effect as of present

by all means KEEP telling us what you think

given it will only support and assist you side of things ascendency...

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:05 am

smokebreaks wrote:Uhm Bob, it was actually GWB who had the check made out to Wall Street and Hank Paulson before he left office. Obama just made sure it was cashed and doled out the excess they received at closing.

Jr had plenty of his own faults, but he only dropped $700 billion. By the time it was all done and said, the total boost to the financial system amounted to aboot $7 trillion...and it was Obama that decided not to prosecute any of those fuks.

bentech wrote:well then we got bob and hax throwing their weight behind trumps agenda

You know I love you Ben

...which is why I come down so hard on you.

You and my brother both...stuck in this finger pointing mode. Can't be "our" fault, nooo...it's those god damn Trump supporters, those...those, "deplorables".

Crawl out of your skin for a moment and look at it from a rational perspective. We know from the wiki'd e-mails that Hillary used her vast media contacts telling them to pump Trump and dump Bernie. So Fox, CNN, and MSNBC would show an empty Trump podium instead of Bernie's speeches. After stealing the primary (admitted in court) she went right with her platform...chasing Trump supporters, which were never coming over to her side. When what she needed to do was go left, to appease the progressive Burnie supporters. Instead she decided to alienate the progressives with her rightward swing. So she pissed off the "deplorables" AND the progressives. Then she lost the election, so now we're back to square one, right?...wrong!! She pushed her position to the right, and the party changed with her. None of that has been fixed, the dems have maintained that position. So where the fuk do you think Trump's going to go?...he's repug, he's gotta go further right. Keep pushing in this direction and we'll have slavery back in no time. The left/liberal/dems need to take a sharp left and shake off the corporatists. And that starts with admitting mistakes, instead of pointing fingers at lesser things. How did the party go from a MAN like Carter, to criminals like the Clintons and Obama? Damn shame I tell ya.

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 9:49 am

it went that way because bubba was such a suscessful fundraiser he showed the party what it could accomplish if it abandoned the its base and refugees fleeing the other party

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:26 am

Illusion of democracy: If US elections could change anything they wouldn't be held

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/443754-electio ... ocracy-us/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

admittedly im in with an extremist circle but these guys were just itching to take their guns to down if kavnaugh wasn't confirmed.
the brags were "and I hope he was a rapists cuz they deserve it!" and "the proud boys are going to need backup"

ive a good question for the group this Saturday

stay tooned

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:15 pm

Ohh jeez-us...

...she's going to run again.
I wish she would just get the message, and GTFO.

What should happen...
Sanders and Warren should be front runners

What will happen...
The 'liberal' media will trash them.
They've already started...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuFbHwCweY" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I do not understand this view of the dems....they would rather lose to a repug, than win with a progressive. These are fukking right-wingers controlling the party of the left.

The time is right for a third party...the Progressive party.
They would only need a 3 point platform to win:
- Universal health care
- Universal education
- Universal income

...instead of bombs, bankers, and bullshit.

I feel ya on the rednecks Ben...I'm in Trump country, just outside of democrat city. But BOTH extremes are detrimental to the well being of society. They have us focusing on crap like abortion, sexual orientation, and race...while we all ignore the big socioeconomic elephant in the room that is the root to most of society's problems.