if needed i can pull up somewhere mendel
in the meantime, here is what wiki is saying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F1_hybrid" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
An F1 hybrid (or filial 1 hybrid) is the first filial generation of offspring of distinctly different parental types....
In agronomy, the term “F1 hybrid” is usually reserved for agricultural cultivars derived from two parent cultivars.
no word is lost, that the parent cant consist of a cross itself, our question here between you and me seems to be kinda off terminology, due to our understanding beyond chuckers ...
if im interpreting what i understood between the lines , then you think like this way
(inserting strain "great white shark" to exemplify it) :
great white shark = super skunk x white widdow
super skunk = skunk x afghani
white widdow = brazil x south indian
you say that this isnt a F1 (great white shark) , no matter if super skunk and white widdow have been stabilized prior or not
only super skunk is a F1 when parents were stabilized, same with WW ... if not stable, it aint even an F1
my understanding is the opposite, anything , stabilized or not, which isnt related to each other is a F1
it becomes harder when you read chief seven turtles, who is making a F1 within the same strain, just by selection and further stabilizing, with different traits tho ....
by this a cross between 2 skunks from 2 different companys should make also a F1 hybrid, like orange bud crossed to euphoria
and taxonomy is fucking us again, as some might mix up a double hybrid with a di-hybrid , tho both means "2" ... lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihybrid_cross" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dihybrid cross is a cross between two different lines (varieties, strains) that differ in two observed traits
with our words, just a cross, a hybrid, a F1
one problem is mendel itself, as he worked exclusively with stable true breeding lines, otherwise he wouldnt been able to observe and define