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Post by PeacockVapor »

Man this seems excessive. 5 - 8 years for selling bongs? Has to be something else I would hope.

What are the charges if anyone knows?

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The impenetrable opacity of the UK's legal system is astonishing to me. PoM exploited that opacity to spin stories that couldn't be fact checked, I imagine lots of people do.
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PeacockVapor wrote:Man this seems excessive. 5 - 8 years for selling bongs? Has to be something else I would hope.

What are the charges if anyone knows?
PlutoPete was never specific... which is not surprising, as he didn't want to say too much prior to the conclusion of his legal proceedings. My impression (which could be entirely wrong) is that he was charged with conspiracy to traffick in narcotics based on the fact that he sold supplies (e.g. mylar bags) to dealers, who used those supplies to package drugs for shipment in the mails.

My interpretation is that he was essentially deemed by the U.K. authorities to be an accessory to trafficking in narcotics. I believe this is because he knowingly sold materials that were essential to the undetected shipping of narcotics or other controlled substances to people engaged in selling these. The SR server logs contained details of his interactions with those vendors, thus proving that he knew how the materials he sold would be used.

He did point out that it was those messages on the server that essentially doomed him.

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http://motherboard.vice.com/read/silk-r ... web-crimes" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Says he was charged with nine crimes, conspiracy seems to be big part of it.

Still think his suing the FBI for 100 bitcoins has lot to do with his troubles!
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Post by deran »

seems the guys had a look at the "new" last years law in the netherlands ...

actually any vendor is supspected to be fucked in the conspiracy department, thats why everyone in the buizz is moving southways

http://europe.newsweek.com/marijuana-an ... 8218?rm=eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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PeacockVapor wrote:Man this seems excessive. 5 - 8 years for selling bongs? Has to be something else I would hope.

What are the charges if anyone knows?
PlutoPete sentencing was today and he got 5 years and 2 months.

His "partner" Richard Hiley (a/k/a RichieRich a/k/a RR) was sentence to 5 years as well.

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One of the Silk Road’s most renowned British vendors and his business partner have been sentenced to a total of ten years after an NCA investigation uncovered the buying and selling of a catalogue of illegal drugs, including crack cocaine and methamphetamine. The pair publically claimed they were running a legitimate business selling legal highs.

Peter Ward, a self-proclaimed ‘psychonaut’, was known online as PlutoPete. His business specialised in supplying military-grade foil packaging that claimed to hide illegal materials from detection. He also provided new psychoactive substances, commonly referred to as legal highs, and drug paraphernalia.

Ward was arrested by NCA officers in Barnstaple, North Devon in October 2013 following an international operation targeting prominent vendors on Silk Road II.

Officers searched Ward’s rural home and found class A and B drugs and numerous computers. They also seized thousands of Post Office receipts with customer details.

Forensics analysis of the machines revealed extensive online activity, with 5,235 sales over two years.

The majority of sales related to legal items, but 54 transactions related to Class A and B drugs. Ward had also been sending ‘care packages’ of drugs hidden on blotter paper into prisons.

Analysis uncovered his close working with an ex-customer, Richard Hiley, who was commissioned by Ward to convert Bitcoins into cash.

In December 2013, NCA officers raided Hiley’s address in Oldbury, West Midlands, after financial records seized from Ward identified large scale transactions between the pair. Hiley’s computers and digital devices had messages from three separate Silk Road accounts named RichieRich, happyman and BITCOINS, which detailed 242 transactions related to the sale of cocaine, cannabis and methamphetamine.

2013-06-24- RichieRich (Hiley) to realbrandnew re: rules…“just ordered 50grams of meth so we can really sell it you can do hole g's, half's and 150mg bits and il do 3.5, 5, 7 and 14g's listings its getting expressed from the states so will be 4-5 days il send you 10 grams when it comes and you can pay it off once you sell it.”

The message logs also detailed how quickly Hiley’s business grew to a size where he began employing people to run the accounts.

21/07/2013 - “Bitcoins (Hiley)to PlutoPete “im so behind I brang matt to answer messages and I have a new girl who is doing 4hrs a day and made a contact in London who might buy happyman off me for a lump sum and a commsion, I have 66 messages and 28 orders witting here the more messages I answer the more they reply and keep on building….just got 14g of meth and the load from the company still to sell but had a good night in London but now need a team of helpers”

Messages recovered also highlighted the potential damage done by the drugs that Hiley was selling over the dark web marketplace.

09/07/2013 - LongRiver to happyman (Hiley) re: subject Hello, How to say it... I spent three week in hospital; the stuff was not good for my body. I fail to die. Are you sure of the quality of your production..”

Ward and Hiley pleaded guilty to 13 charges relating to the possession, supply and importation of Class A and B drugs. Hiley additionally pleaded guilty to two counts of importing a prohibited weapon after he imported five stun guns, claiming that they were for personal protection.

The pair were sentenced at Birmingham Crown Court on 29 February to five years and two months and five years respectively.

Ian Glover, NCA Branch Commander, said:

“Criminals and their customers like to think that dark web market places provide an anonymous haven.

“The reality is that law enforcement works together internationally to identify and pursue these people.

“As in Ward’s case, dealers often don’t take any care in handling personal details of customers. We are working with our law enforcement partners to further identify and pursue those illegally trading in drugs and firearms online.”

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Post by smokebreaks »

Sounds like Pluto Pete had some serious issues with his extracurricular activities.

All his yammering on about legal highs and how he was oh so legit... Guess he must've forgot that it isn't legal to import and distribute controlled narcotic substances by the gram without a license.

*if* someone is going to seek ill-gotten gains, they should really make efforts in caution to never leave a paper trail, digital or analog.
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Post by AGD »

Did I mention, that I asked PoM about the PGP key https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=V ... s&op=index, where he said that he wasn't using PGP in 2010. I think he even said, that he just started using PGP recently?

I still wonder about this answer. Can some of you guys confirm that he didn't know about PGP back from 2010 to 2015?

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Post by deran »

that lights a spark, but the timeframe is wrong imho :toker1:
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Post by AGD »

If he lied, than nothing has changed, but what if he told the truth? Wouldn't that mean, he was not Variety Jones?

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