Marijuana strains are meaningless, expert says
Marijuana strains are meaningless, expert says
This is something I've suspected for a long time, especially the claimed differences between indicas and sativas, which I have always thought was complete bullshit. This ought to stir up some shit.
Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless, Expert Says
By Dennis Romero Tue., Dec. 3 2013 at 8:08 AM
OG Kush. Skywalker. Pineapple Express. Sour Diesel. Sour Jack.
These are the "strains" that medical marijuana consumers are sold, often at premium prices, with the promise that they'll do something special for you.
But a foremost cannabis expert, Jeffrey Raber, who holds a Ph.D. in chemistry from USC, says it's all b.s. Those names don't mean anything, and a forthcoming study he's working on will prove it, Raber tells us. In fact he even disputes the commonly held notion that the two polar types of weed, indica and sativa, produce opposing effects -- specifically that indica is more of a depressant and sativa is more of an upper.
The data shows that indica and sativa is just morphology [the plants' appearance and structure, not their highs]. It's a misperception that indica will put you to sleep or that sativa is more energetic.
To be sure, many of the aforementioned strains pack the punch promised by their purveyors.
But beyond that, especially when it comes to projections of stimulation or relaxation, head trips versus body highs, and strain-specific cures and treatments, it's a crap shoot, Raber says.
There's no scientific basis for the claims being made by pot shops about the effects of their weed, Raber argues. In fact, he says his study is showing that what's being sold as OG Kush in one shop could be something completely different in another.
"Most people don't even know," he says. "We took a popular name, Jack Herer, and found that most didn't even look like each other. OG whatever, Kush whatever, and the marketing that goes along with it -- it's not really medically designed."
Raber's company, The Werk Shop, provides testing for medical marijuana dispensaries so they can sell pesticide-free weed that's been verified.
The strain study he's working on is analyzing more than 1,000 brands of cannabis sold at pot shops, Raber says. The science involved is called metabolomics and will look at metabolites, cannabinoids, turpenes and 42 other aspects of each sample, he says.
The pot expert plans to see the study published by spring. He hopes in the end the research will establish new guidelines for naming strains so that they're consistent from dispensary to dispensary and, more importantly, so that they actually mean something to the consumer.
Raber:
You need a better classification system. We need a new naming system. We're at the forefront of being able to do that.
Marijuana Strains Like OG Kush Are Meaningless, Expert Says
By Dennis Romero Tue., Dec. 3 2013 at 8:08 AM
OG Kush. Skywalker. Pineapple Express. Sour Diesel. Sour Jack.
These are the "strains" that medical marijuana consumers are sold, often at premium prices, with the promise that they'll do something special for you.
But a foremost cannabis expert, Jeffrey Raber, who holds a Ph.D. in chemistry from USC, says it's all b.s. Those names don't mean anything, and a forthcoming study he's working on will prove it, Raber tells us. In fact he even disputes the commonly held notion that the two polar types of weed, indica and sativa, produce opposing effects -- specifically that indica is more of a depressant and sativa is more of an upper.
The data shows that indica and sativa is just morphology [the plants' appearance and structure, not their highs]. It's a misperception that indica will put you to sleep or that sativa is more energetic.
To be sure, many of the aforementioned strains pack the punch promised by their purveyors.
But beyond that, especially when it comes to projections of stimulation or relaxation, head trips versus body highs, and strain-specific cures and treatments, it's a crap shoot, Raber says.
There's no scientific basis for the claims being made by pot shops about the effects of their weed, Raber argues. In fact, he says his study is showing that what's being sold as OG Kush in one shop could be something completely different in another.
"Most people don't even know," he says. "We took a popular name, Jack Herer, and found that most didn't even look like each other. OG whatever, Kush whatever, and the marketing that goes along with it -- it's not really medically designed."
Raber's company, The Werk Shop, provides testing for medical marijuana dispensaries so they can sell pesticide-free weed that's been verified.
The strain study he's working on is analyzing more than 1,000 brands of cannabis sold at pot shops, Raber says. The science involved is called metabolomics and will look at metabolites, cannabinoids, turpenes and 42 other aspects of each sample, he says.
The pot expert plans to see the study published by spring. He hopes in the end the research will establish new guidelines for naming strains so that they're consistent from dispensary to dispensary and, more importantly, so that they actually mean something to the consumer.
Raber:
You need a better classification system. We need a new naming system. We're at the forefront of being able to do that.
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did he say he holds a BS in Ph'D???
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The really controversial issue is not that there is no difference.
The issue is the ridiculous price. Poor people should be paying very little for their medical marijuana. Scumbags that make big money off sickness are the worst kind of parasite and that includes a lot of doctors.
The issue is the ridiculous price. Poor people should be paying very little for their medical marijuana. Scumbags that make big money off sickness are the worst kind of parasite and that includes a lot of doctors.
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Actually its a bachelors in arts, because hes a bullshit artist.
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One can hardly expect a black market to hew to strict controls or standards. Add in the fact that there are no labeling or quality controls in place (obviously) and further that what are referred to as "strains" are generally nothing more than essentially random progeny of unstable polyhybrids making the whole naming convention in place close to meaningless. The cannabis genetics status quo is equal parts grift, marketing, smoke and mirrors. As cannabis legalization rolls out we *should* ditch the nomenclature of the black market, it is both unhelpful and nearly meaningless. I hope ten or fifteen years from now nobody will be using the fucked up pseudotaxomony that is currently in place.
It will be important to have actual cultivars that can reliably meet a consensus (or even objective pharmacological in the case of medical applications) standard and not to base the future of the plant on pseudostrains and polyhybrid cuttings.
It will be important to have actual cultivars that can reliably meet a consensus (or even objective pharmacological in the case of medical applications) standard and not to base the future of the plant on pseudostrains and polyhybrid cuttings.
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I usually like the mutts that stacked calyxes towards the end.
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Yeah its all bath tub gin, flowers in 8 weeks flat ready or not and dried in a paper bag if your lucky.
As legalization takes hold, more and more of us are gonna come outa the woodwork with stuff that makes the popular strains look like the crap they really are.
That things only week six.., of 12
its a freak, it started out like that, and hell yes I kept a cutting.
It smells like a skunk that had eaten something.., unnatural.
As legalization takes hold, more and more of us are gonna come outa the woodwork with stuff that makes the popular strains look like the crap they really are.
That things only week six.., of 12
its a freak, it started out like that, and hell yes I kept a cutting.
It smells like a skunk that had eaten something.., unnatural.
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the local papers been running a series on toxic pot this week...
mold pesticides and so far...
im guessing it will be the poly vinil bags are lined with tomorrow
mold pesticides and so far...
im guessing it will be the poly vinil bags are lined with tomorrow
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If he's a "foremost cannabis expert", then how come I've never heard of him?...a foremost cannabis expert, Jeffrey Raber, who holds a Ph.D. in chemistry...
Raber's company, The Werk Shop, provides testing for medical marijuana dispensaries...
If he's a phd, and his company does work in the medical field, why doesn't he know how to spell work?
Give cutz from the same mother plant to ten different growers and you'll git ten different end results...does this "expert" not understand that genetics is only part of the picture?
I would think b'fore lookin at the core, you'd first hafta scrape off the liars & thieves aspect....then look at environmental effects...b'fore makin conclusions aboot genetics.