Spaced Out

[Munchy]

maybe we should change the forum description on the index page?

from:

Smoked Out Lounge
After enjoying the fruits of your labors, we all need a place to chill.
This is that place. Totally senseless irrelevant banter encouraged.

to:

The Misery Lounge
We're all about free speech, so there's no happy space allowed here,
at MyPlanetGanja. So if you're not into discussing politics,
or the misery of the planet, then just shut the fuck up.
After all, we're too busy trying to change the world.

j/k

[Roots]

It was a big mistake to explore outer space before inner space. When you have the kind of misery you have on this planet and your gaze is still directed outward you have no sense of priorities.

How's this for helping with misery.

Here are a few of the many other medical advances that came at least in part from NASA:
Digital imaging breast biopsy system, developed from Hubble Space Telescope technology
Tiny transmitters to monitor the fetus inside the womb
Laser angioplasty, using fiber-optic catheters
Forceps with fiber optics that let doctors measure the pressure applied to a baby's head during delivery
Cool suit to lower body temperature in treatment of various conditions
Voice-controlled wheelchairs
Light-emitting diodes (LED) for help in brain cancer surgery
Foam used to insulate space shuttle external tanks for less expensive, better molds for artificial arms and legs
Programmable pacemakers
Tools for cataract surgery
Increased understanding of bone-strength and loss of bone-mass may help patients suffering from delicate bones or musclewasting diseases.
Without gravity to help orient them, astronauts experience changes in their sense of balance. Studying this phenomenon may yield insights into dizziness, vertigo, and balance problems and disorders related to the inner ear.
Observing the behavior of microbes and other organisms in space can generate insights into the behavior of organisms on earth, and perhaps lead to better understanding of infectious diseases and the immune system's response to them.
DIGITAL IMAGING BREAST BIOPSY SYSTEM - The LORAD Stereo Guide Breast Biopsy system incorporates advanced Charge Coupled Devices (CCDs) as part of a digital camera system. The resulting device images breast tissue more clearly and efficiently. Known as stereotactic large-core needle biopsy, this nonsurgical system developed with Space Telescope Technology is less traumatic and greatly reduces the pain, scarring, radiation exposure, time, and money associated with surgical biopsies.

BREAST CANCER DETECTION - A solar cell sensor is positioned directly beneath x-ray film, and determines exactly when film has received sufficient radiation and has been exposed to optimum density. Associated electronic equipment then sends a signal to cut off the x-ray source. Reduction of mammography x-ray exposure reduces radiation hazard and doubles the number of patient exams per machine.

LASER ANGIOPLASTY - Laser angioplasty with a "cool" type of laser, caller an excimer laser, does not damage blood vessel walls and offers precise non-surgical cleanings of clogged arteries with extraordinary precision and fewer complications than in balloon angioplasty.

ULTRASOUND SKIN DAMAGE ASSESSMENT - Advanced instrument using NASA ultrasound technology enables immediate assessment of burn damage depth, improving patient treatment, and may save lives in serious burn cases.

HUMAN TISSUE STIMULATOR - Employing NASA satellite technology, the device is implanted in the body to help patient control chronic pain and involuntary motion disorders through electrical stimulation of targeted nerve centers or particular areas of the brain.

COOL SUIT - Custom-made suit derived from space suits circulates coolant through tubes to lower patient's body/ temperature, producing dramatic improvement of symptoms of multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, spina bifida and other conditions.

PROGRAMMABLE PACEMAKER - Incorporating multiple NASA technologies, the system consists of the implant and a physician's computer console containing the programming and a data printer. Communicates through wireless telemetry signals.

OCULAR SCREENING - NASA image processing techniques are used to detect eye problems in very young children. An electronic flash from a 35-millimeter camera sends light into the child's eyes, and a photorefractor analyzes the retinal reflexes, producing an image of each eye.

AUTOMATED URINALYSIS - NASA fluid dynamics studies helped development of system that automatically extracts and transfers sediment from urine sample to an analyzer microscope, replacing the manual centrifuge method.

MEDICAL GAS ANALYZER - Astronaut-monitoring technology used to develop system to monitor operating rooms for analysis of anesthetic gasses and measurement of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen concentrations to assure proper breathing environment for surgery patients.

VOICE-CONTROLLED WHEELCHAIR - NASA teleoperator and robot technology used to develop chair and manipulator that respond to 35 one-word voice commands utilizing a minicomputer to help patient perform daily tasks, like picking up packages, opening doors, and turning on appliances.

Other spinoffs in this area include: Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, and cataract surgery tools.

[country boy]

...
And Munchy why don't we let discussions just unfold organically instead of obsessing about whether they neatly fit into our prefabricated boxes? ...

Listen you commie-nigger, we know you'd suck Satan's cock to forward your political agenda.
But, there's a politics forum, begging for posts.
Some prefer not that talk religion and politics at the dinner table.
it's not like you/me are gonna change any minds, eh?

If you want to take it farther.
Open a thread in the Tank( a whole forum, just for shit-tanking), we can insult each others parentage and sexual preferences, faggot.

[Zool]

A surprise monster may be lurking in our solar system. A newly discovered dwarf planet has grabbed the crown as the most distant known object in our solar system – and its orbit hints at a giant, unseen rocky world, 10 times the mass of Earth and orbiting far beyond Pluto.

The dwarf planet, for now dubbed 2012 VP113 because it was spotted in images taken in November 2012 – is an interesting discovery in itself. Scott Sheppard of the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington DC and his colleagues found that it is a lump of rock and ice 450 kilometres wide and lies at 80 astronomical units from the sun at its closest approach (1 AU is Earth's distance from the sun).

That's twice as far as the most famous dwarf planet, Pluto, which is 2340 kilometres wide and also beats the previous record holder, a 1000-kilometre-wide planetoid called Sedna, discovered in 2003, with a closest approach of 76 AU out.

Objects orbiting this far from the sun, in the "inner Oort cloud", are useful to probe the early solar system. That's because they lie too far away to be perturbed by the gas planets, but too close to the sun to be affected by the gravity of other stars in our galaxy – so their orbits and behaviour are thought to be almost unchanged since they first formed. "Once we find more objects in this region, we'll be able to start to strongly constrain the possible formation scenarios," says Sheppard.
Distant puppeteer

The discovery of 2012 VP113 instantly doubles the number of objects known in this part of space, from 1 to 2 – and the team estimates that many more exist in this region and are just waiting to be discovered. "We thought Pluto was unique for over 70 years, but we now know that it shares its orbit with thousands of other objects," says Sheppard. "Sedna was unique for about 10 years but it's now clear that Sedna and 2012 VP113 are just the tip of the iceberg."

Intriguingly, Sheppard's team also found a strange alignment when they looked at the orbits of 2012 VP113, Sedna and 10 other objects that lie closer to the sun. "It was a big surprise to us," he says.

One explanation for the alignment could be the tug of a rocky planet that is 10 times the mass of Earth that orbits the sun at 250 AU, the team calculate. That world would be cold and faint – and would push and pull at the closer objects like a distant but powerful puppeteer.

NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) scoured this region of space in 2010 and 2011 searching for a so-called Planet X and came up empty.

However, WISE was looking for the tell-tale warmth of gas giants – a rocky "super-Earth", like the one Sheppard's team suggest, would be too cold for the telescope to pick up. "This is too faint for WISE," says Ned Wright, the space telescope's principal investigator. Even if the planet has a small internal heat source – and absorbs some sunlight, it would still not generate enough heat to register, he adds.
Rogue planets

Nonetheless, if it exists, how could such a monster possibly have escaped notice until now? It may seem strange, particularly given our recent ability to spot more than 1000 far more distant planets, in alien solar systems. But instruments such as NASA's Kepler space telescope, which has had particular success in finding such exoplanets, would have no chance of spotting a planet like this one.

Kepler is designed to spot tell-tale dips in the brightness of alien stars as planets pass in front of them. "No way would Kepler find this planet," says William Welsh of San Diego State University, a member of the Kepler team.

The only method currently available that might have a chance is gravitational microlensing, suggests Welsh, where the gravity of a massive object lying between us and the planet could be used as a cosmic magnifying glass. Recently this method was used to spot an object that might be the first moon glimpsed outside our solar system.

However, there are other ways to explain the orbital alignment that Sheppard's team found, including the pull of stars or "rogue" planets kicked out of our solar system eons ago.

For that reason, Mike Brown of the California Institute of Technology, a co-discoverer of Sedna, isn't holding out hope of a giant planet just yet. "It is possible that some undiscovered large object out there is doing this, but there are likely many other explanations, too, most of them sadly more mundane."

Journal reference: Nature, DOI: 10.1038/nature13156

[Zool]

will keep working on it munchy!

the universe stuff is to complicated for me
i how they draw curved space has always bugged because its so non-intuitive

if the cosmic background radiation is all around us
why do they diagram it as a disc at the bottom of a funnel?

i dont get that

The funnel diagram you have seen is the easy way to represent a three dimensional event on a two dimensional surface, the reason you see it at the bottom of the funnel is time, the picture you have seen of the cosmic background radiation is a temperature measurement of the remnants of that event(afterglow light pattern) now cooled to just above absolute zero

If you extrapolate it back in time it occurs a few hundred thousand years after the big bang which is why they show it at the bottom(left side), missing from the diagram is temperature and scale which in my opinion it would make it a bit easier to understand.

and why dark energy kicked i to fuel a second expansion happend later?
never hear that addressed

If you mean inflation the jury is still out on that one, it's an elegant bit of math that makes little intuitive sense, I remain to be convinced.
Neither am I convinced about dark energy expansion I just don't think there's enough data sets to draw that sort of a conclusion, it could be something really simple and we just don't understand it properly based on the limited amount of data we have, they are just making assumptions based on some observed effects, it's just the latest fashionable theory no doubt there will be another one along in a couple of years to displace/replace it.(probably when the funding to research dark energy runs out)

AND

if its adding spacetime to our universe
why is it only appearing in empty space?

why not in the room here or inside the earth or sun?

If it is adding spacetime the effects would be everywhere but they are so tiny as to be almost impossible to detect, as well the instruments you are using to try and detect it are also being affected by it, think of it like this, if you took a piece of metal a foot long and heated it by 20 degrees it would increase in size, if you measuring instrument is made of the same metal and you then heated that by 20 degrees what would you see?
(am I making any sense? I'm hammered and should probably get back to drinking beer)

I forgot to add this link
http://snap.lbl.gov/science/darkenergy.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It 's probably a lot more understandable

[bentech]

seems im seeing a distinction between inflation, which occured right after the bang... and a aceleration of expansion happening much more recently. your cone barely depicts it, ive seen other diagrams where it shows the last billion years really flare the cone like its a trumpet



man that oort cloud is huge

say,
what the difference between the terminal blowshock and the helio-pause?
oh and,
how do the voyagers test for it and tell us anything if theyve powered off all their insterments?

[Jesús Malverde]

Yep, less nagging, more chillin'. The truth is banning political talk from a forum makes it less chill instead of more. Icmag and cannacabana etc. aren't chill, just repressed which only superficially resembles chill.

[Jesús Malverde]

We're surely on the doorstep of another revolution in cosmology/physics, the current paradigm is losing new predictive and explanatory powers and there seems no obvious direction to go.

[Zool]

say,
what the difference between the terminal blowshock and the helio-pause?
oh and,
how do the voyagers test for it and tell us anything if theyve powered off all their insterments?

good explanation of heliopause http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/interstellar.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A list of the still operating instruments http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/fastfacts.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

complete operations timeline http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/wee ... /index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[twilson]

It was a big mistake to explore outer space before inner space. When you have the kind of misery you have on this planet and your gaze is still directed outward you have no sense of priorities.

How's this for helping with misery.

Here are a few of the many other medical advances that came at least in part from NASA:

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Direct development of new technology is far cheaper than technologies that have been obtained as a result of the spin off of a very expensive venture.