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Re: Vaccine

Postby bentech » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:44 am



What’s Not Being Said About the Pfizer Coronavirus Vaccine. “Human Guinea Pigs”?
By F. William Engdahl
Global Research, December 25, 2020



Bill Gates is actively financing and promoting new untested vaccines supposed to keep us at least somewhat safe from a ‘ghastly” death from the novel coronavirus and supposedly allow us to resume somewhat “normal” lives. The Pharma giant Pfizer has now announced what they claim were spectacular results in initial human tests. They use an experimental technology known as gene editing, specifically mRNA gene-editing, something never before used in vaccines. Before we rush to get jabbed in hopes of some immunity, we should know more about the radical experimental technology and its lack of precision.

The financial world went ballistic on November 9 when the pharma giant Pfizer and its German partner, BioNTech, announced in a company press release that it had developed a vaccine for Covid19 that was “90%” effective.

The controversial US head of NIAID, Tony Fauci (right) rushed to greet the news and the EU announced it had purchased 300 million doses of the costly new vaccine. If you believe financial markets, the pandemic is all but past history.

Suspicious events

However it seems Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, doesn’t share the confidence of his own claims. On the day his company issued its press release on the proposed vaccine trials, he sold 62% of his stock in Pfizer, making millions profit in the deal. He made the sell order in a special option in August so it would not appear as “insider selling”, however he also timed it just after the US elections and the mainstream media illegitimately declared Joe Biden President-elect. It seems from appearances that Bourla had a pretty clear conflict of interest in the timing of his press release on the same day.

Bourla lied and denied to the Press that his company had received any funds from the Trump Administration to develop the vaccine when it came out they contracted in summer to deliver 100 million doses to the US Government. Further adding to the suspect actions of Pfizer was the fact the company first informed the team of Joe biden rather than the relevant US government agencies.

But this is far from the only thing alarming about the much-hyped Pfizer announcement.

The German Partner

Pfizer, famous for its Viagra and other drugs, has partnered with a small Mainz, Germany company, BioNTech, which has developed the radical mRNA technique used to produce the new corona vaccine. BioNTech was only founded in 2008. BioNTech signed an agreement with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation in September, 2019, just before announcement in Wuhan China of the Novel Coronavirus and just before BioNTech made its stock market debut. The agreement involved cooperation on developing new mRNA techniques to treat cancer and HIV. Curiously that press release, “The Gates Foundation sees BioNTech potential to ‘dramatically reduce global HIV and tuberculosis’” 05. September 2019, has now been deleted.

BioNTech also has an agreement with one of the largest drug producers in China, Shanghai Fosun Pharmaceutical Co., Ltd (“Fosun Pharma”) to develop a version of its mRNA vaccine for novel coronavirus for the Chinese market. Ai-Min Hui, President of Global R&D of Fosun Pharma said in an August statement, “Dosing the first Chinese subject with BNT162b1 marks a milestone of the global co-development program in China. We are closely working with BioNTech and regulatory authorities to evaluate the safety and efficacy of BNT162b1 and other mRNA vaccine candidates…”

This means that the same German biotech company is behind the covid vaccines being rushed out in China as well as the USA and EU. The vaccine is being rushed through to eventual approval in an alarmingly short time.

Both US and EU authorities and presumably also Chinese, waived the standard animal tests using ferrets or mice and have gone straight to human “guinea pigs.” Human tests began in late July and early August. Three months is unheard of for testing a new vaccine. Several years is the norm. Because of the degree of global panic engendered by WHO over the coronavirus, caution is thrown to the wind. Vaccine makers all have legal indemnity, meaning they can’t be sued if people die or are maimed from the new vaccine. But the most alarming fact about the new Pfizer-BioNTech gene edited vaccine is that the gene edited mRNA for human vaccine application has never before been approved. Notably, two year peer reviewed tests with mice fed genetically modified corn sprayed with Monsanto glyphosate-rich Roundup first showed cancer tumors after nine months as well as liver and other organ damage. Earlier Monsanto company tests ended at three months and claimed no harm. A similar situation exists with the gene edited mRNA vaccines that are being rushed out after less than 90 days human tests.

FDA Lets Pfizer Test Experimental COVID-19 Vaccine on U.S. Children
“Explicitly experimental”

Dr. Michael Yeadon replied in a recent public social media comment to a colleague in the UK; “All vaccines against the SARS-COV-2 virus are by definition novel. No candidate vaccine has been… in development for more than a few months.” Yeadon then went on to declare,

“If any such vaccine is approved for use under any circumstances that are not EXPLICITLY experimental, I believe that recipients are being misled to a criminal extent. This is because there are precisely zero human volunteers for…whom there could possibly be more than a few months past-dose safety information.”

Yeadon is well qualified to make the critique. As he notes in the comment, “I have a degree in Biochemistry & Toxicology & a research based PhD in pharmacology. I have spent 32 years working in pharmaceutical R&D, mostly in new medicines for disorders of lung & skin. I was a VP at Pfizer & CEO…. of a biotech I founded (Ziarco – acquired by Novartis). I’m knowledgeable about new medicine R&D.” He was formerly with Pfizer at a very senior level.

Human guinea pigs?

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is experimental and far from guaranteed safe, despite the fact that Pfizer, the EU and the notorious Dr Tony Fauci seem ready to roll it out even before year end to hundreds of millions of humans.

The experimental technology is based on a rather new gene manipulation known as gene editing. In a major article in the 2018 New York Council on Foreign Relations magazine, Foreign Affairs, Bill Gates effusively promoted the novel gene editing CRISPR technology as being able to “transform global development.” He noted that his Gates Foundation had been financing gene editing developments for vaccines and other applications for a decade.

But is the technology for breaking and splicing of human genes so absolutely safe that it is worth risking on a novel experimental vaccine never before used on humans? Contrary to what Bill Gates claims, the scientific answer is no, it is not proven so safe.

In a peer reviewed article in the October, 2020 journal Trends in Genetics, the authors conclude that “the range of possible molecular events resulting from genome editing has been underestimated and the technology remains unpredictable on, and away from, the target locus.”

Dr. Romeo Quijano, retired professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology at the College of Medicine, University of the Philippines Manila, noted some of the dangers of the experimental gene editing when applied to human vaccines. Quijano warns of,

“the danger that the vaccine might actually “enhance” the pathogenicity of the virus, or make it more aggressive possibly due to antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), as what happened with previous studies on test vaccines in animals. If that should happen in a major human trial the outcome could be disastrous. This serious adverse effect may not even be detected by a clinical trial especially in highly biased clinical trials laden with conflicts of interest involving vaccine companies. Even when a serious adverse event is detected, this is usually swept under the rug.”

He cites the case of another Gates mRNA vaccine candidate, Moderna, where “three of the 15 human experimental subjects in the high dose group suffered serious and medically significant symptoms. Moderna, however, concluded that the vaccine was “generally safe and well tolerated,” which the corporate-dominated media dutifully reported, covering-up the real danger…”

He notes,

“Exogenous mRNA is inherently immune-stimulatory, and this feature of mRNA could be beneficial or detrimental. It may provide adjuvant activity and it may inhibit antigen expression and negatively affect the immune response. The paradoxical effects of innate immune sensing on different formats of mRNA vaccines are incompletely understood.” Quijano adds, “A mRNA-based vaccine could also induce potent type I interferon responses, which have been associated not only with inflammation but also potentially with autoimmunity… and may promote blood coagulation and pathological thrombus formation.”

Quijano writes in the extensively documented article,

“among other dangers, the virus-vectored vaccines could undergo recombination with naturally occurring viruses and produce hybrid viruses that could have undesirable properties affecting transmission or virulence. The…possible outcomes of recombination are practically impossible to quantify accurately given existing tools and knowledge. The risks, however, are real, as exemplified by the emergence of mutant types of viruses, enhanced pathogenicity and unexpected serious adverse events (including death) following haphazard mass vaccination campaigns and previous failed attempts to develop chimeric vaccines using genetic engineering technology.”

Bill Gates, the mRNA vaccine makers including Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, and their close allies such as Dr. Tony Fauci of the NIAID are clearly playing fast and loose with human lives in their rush to get these experimental vaccines into our bodies. Notably, the same Dr. Fauci and his NIAID owns the patent on a vaccine for dengue fever known as Dengvaxia, marketed by Sanofi-Pasteur and promoted as an “essential” vaccine by Tedros’ WHO since 2016. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (right) noted that Fauci and NIAID “knew from the clinical trials that there was a problem with paradoxical immune response,” but they gave it to several hundred thousand Filipino kids anyway. It was estimated that as many as 600 vaccinated children died before the government stopped the vaccinations.

Clearly the well-established Precautionary Principle–if in serious doubt, don’t– is being ignored by Fauci, Pfizer/BioNTech and others in rushing to approve the new mRNA vaccine for coronavirus. Messenger RNA technology has yet to produce an approved medicine, let alone a vaccine.

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Re: Vaccine

Postby Intrinsic » Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:32 pm


Hmmm I wouldn't put much faith in that article.

First flag was calling Anthony Fauci, Tony. Second, totally Lacks mentioning he rigorous trials results. 3rd the peer-review 'science' paper cited was an opinion piece.


https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-journalists- ... -on-paper/
NEO is, to put it shortly, a hardworking disinformation portal. And apparently, the site isn’t content with lying about subject matter; it even lies about its contributors. A substantial portion of the site’s content is produced by authors with fake names – by authors that do not exist outside the editorial office of New Eastern Outlook at 12 Rozhdestvenka Street in Moscow.
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Got milk

Postby Intrinsic » Sun Dec 27, 2020 11:18 am


A scientist is collecting breast milk from mothers for use as a possible coronavirus treatment

And that's the story i'm sticking with... yeah.. for coronavirus research.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12- ... babies.amp

Because human milk contains high levels of these secretory-type antibodies, breastfeeding by mothers who recover from COVID-19 could pass on immunity to babies, and there's a chance the purified milk antibodies could be a therapy for adults suffering from COVID-19.


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Postby Gangie » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:28 am


The politics behind the use of science has become an art form. And the duped fall in line with “science.” People focus on what they are being told, but nothing that smells like red herring. -Pun intended. The way you back out of anything that goes wrong is by saying the usual process of approval was bypassed. Oops! Few people noticed the race to produce a vaccine. The first Nation to produce the vaccine gets first dibs in raking in money. At whose expense? You betcha. The duped.

Hey, don’t mind me. I don’t want to mess with your high. George Carlin knows exactly what’s up. -It’s not the wrong thread. But George Carlin goes great in here.

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo
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Re: Vaccine

Postby Gangie » Thu Dec 31, 2020 2:31 am


Here’s what I think about all this.

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo
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Postby Intrinsic » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:42 am


 And the duped fall in line with “science.” People focus on what they are being told, but nothing that smells like red herring.


Incorrect premise den. Yer assuming no one understands science cuz you don't. Or didn't pay attention in school or It's Beyond human understanding or
Science is voodoo. Read a book.

I should note the opponents, yanno right-wing nut cases, are the anti-science. The current Administration ignores science and all its aspects, doesn't use it at all, wholly willfully ignorant.

Kinda like your premise is a red herring fallacy.
-Pun intended. The way you back out of anything that goes wrong is by saying the usual process of approval was bypassed. Oops! Few people noticed the race to produce a vaccine. The first Nation to produce the vaccine gets first dibs in raking in money. At whose expense? You betcha.


You know there are many type's of novel Coronavirus vaccines in existence already. The Chinese, the first, is offering it to the World free. They are not making money off of it that I know of, what have you heard?

To be clear warp speed is not about the development of vaccines, speed is about the Manufacturing/distributation. Having enough doses ready in case one of the trials proved fruitful. It's a Gamble. Parallel development. And there were no shortcuts, no fast pace going through the testing trials.
There is some legit critique of the inhumanity of animal testing tho imho.

As far as George Carlin 'n your argument, the Mrna vaccine supplements then teaches our immune system new ways to be effective. It works the way God intended our immune system to work. It would not make us less vulnerable only stronger for other related viruses. But Not the living germs such as protozoa causing food poisoning, that you brought up.
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Postby Intrinsic » Thu Dec 31, 2020 11:54 am


I don't know what your solution is, didn't say. But my preferable solution is To suckling on some warm mother's milk. :yellowboobs:
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Postby Oldjoints » Thu Dec 31, 2020 1:18 pm


Well here ya go then:

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Postby Butcher Bob » Thu Dec 31, 2020 4:21 pm


Intrinsic wrote:...den.

I was wondering aboot that. :p
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Postby Intrinsic » Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:47 pm


Gangie wrote:The politics behind the use of science has become an art form. And the duped fall in line with “science.” People focus on what they are being told, but nothing that smells like red herring. -Pun intended. The way you back out of anything that goes wrong is by saying the usual process of approval was bypassed. Oops! Few people noticed the race to produce a vaccine. The first Nation to produce the vaccine gets first dibs in raking in money. At whose expense? You betcha. The duped.

Hey, don’t mind me. I don’t want to mess with your high. George Carlin knows exactly what’s up. -It’s not the wrong thread. But George Carlin goes great in here.

https://youtu.be/X29lF43mUlo

Hmmm evidence says you are right. I just read the UK is thinking of a program that only ends up people getting 1 dose of a 2 dose vaccine, at least for now... kick the canned down the road,,. Spend the least.

No science there jes politics.
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Postby Jesús Malverde » Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:18 am


We don't have the luxury of honoring the precautionary principle right now. Sadly. And sometimes the application of the principle isn't conservatism, it's radicalism.
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Postby Intrinsic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:27 pm


I don't think so Haysus, the goal is to reach X% vaccination rate in an area, the numbers I see are 80%, But that presumes the efficacy is 90-95%. If we only give one dose, the efficacy is reportedly around 60% and gone in two weeks, and in that case we might not ever reach the situation where enough people have a high enough immunity in an area to stop the spread.

Regardless 1 dose of a tested 2 dose vaccine Is bad engineering. You would need to do another phase III trial before approval. Science over politics?
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Postby bentech » Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:49 pm


the maldistribution will be shown to be intended...
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Postby Intrinsic » Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:42 pm


This is the best video I've seen, worth the time, at least it educated me.

From Treatment to mRNA Vaccines: Discussing COVID-19 with Dr. Howard Bauchner of JAMA



Here's the stuff on mRNA

4:08 History of mRNA Vaccines
5:34 what mRNA Vaccines are
15:19 data of mRNA Vaccine risks
18:08 public fear of new mRNA Vaccines
19:38 how long mRNA Vaccines work
20:01 what happens to the mRNA after it's been injected
21:16 can you spread covid after you get vaccinated
23:14 how can they tell if side effects are caused by a vaccine
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Postby ben ttech » Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:02 pm


we had several GWS suffering members around here over the years...




During the 1991 Gulf War, around 150,000 US troops were vaxxed for anthrax.

Short-term it caused redness, swelling and fever that’s associated with all vaccines.

Serious health issues weren’t discovered until later called Gulf War syndrome.

Experimental anthrax vaccines contained squalene-based adjuvants that caused severe autoimmune diseases and deaths among Gulf War veterans later on.

They included rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis, neuritis risking later paralysis, uveitis risking blindness, neurological harm, congenital disabilities in offspring, cognitive impairment, and systemic lupus erythematosus, among other health issues.

The latter disease can harm joints, skin, brain, lungs, kidneys, and blood vessels.

From 1990 to 2001, over two million doses of anthrax vaccine were administered to US military personnel.

According to Stars and Stripes, the Veterans Affairs Department denied over 80% of benefits claims filed by military vets for health issues related to the Gulf War or later vaxxing for anthrax.

Research showed that squalene-based adjuvants are directly linked to Gulf War syndrome.

US military personnel were used and abused as unwitting lab rats. Many became ill. Thousands died.





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Postby Intrinsic » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:35 pm


Joe Biden got a second vaccine shot today.

Daily deaths USA
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USA compared to other countries. The chart is sorted for new deaths yesterday.
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