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Absurd and wrong’: Watch Bernie Sanders deliver a fiery Senate floor speech admonishing GOP’s relentless efforts to ‘punish’ poor people

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Intrinsic wrote:Dude I'm not bringing all the team raw Raw supporting here. you are, I was contributing to the truth about the Coronavirus...

You and lrus are bringing partisan politics into this. :fubird:
...earlier...
Intrinsic wrote:It's Democrats fault. :facepalm:

Remember it was Trump who abused the power of the office inviting foreign powers to help him with an American elections . Legally, morally and constitutionally Congress's
hands were tied to impeach. They already took the money they had to do the job they all promised Underoath. Congress did the right thing. Trump was impeached for corruption of the office.
Eat some shit. :grin:

I gave you a non-partisan source of information...use it, or remain ignorant...the choice is yours.


bentech wrote:its a cheap shot that derangement thing
No it is not. TDS is the same level of mental retardation as ardent Trump supporters.
Blind partisanship has been what has kept us from instituting a universal healthcare system for the last 100 years. We should have been the 1st country to implement it, yet we still haven't...and now that fact is fukking us. But let's blame Trump instead...fukking morons. :facepalm:

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No Dorothy, coronavirus is a natural pathogen as the genetic boffins like to drone on and on about.


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The virus’s genetic makeup reveals that SARS-CoV-2 isn’t a mishmash of known viruses, as might be expected if it were human-made. And it has unusual features that have only recently been identified in scaly anteaters called pangolins, evidence that the virus came from nature, Kristian Andersen and his colleagues report March 17 in Nature Medicine.

Andersen assembled a team of evolutionary biologists and virologists, including Garry, from several countries to analyze the virus for clues that it could have been human-made, or grown in and accidentally released from a lab.

“We said, ‘Let’s take this theory — of which there are multiple different versions — that the virus has a non-natural origin … as a serious potential hypothesis,’ ” Andersen says.

Meeting via Slack and other virtual portals, the researchers analyzed the virus’s genetic makeup, or RNA sequence, for clues about its origin.

It was clear “almost overnight” that the virus wasn’t human-made, Andersen says. Anyone hoping to create a virus would need to work with already known viruses and engineer them to have desired properties.

But the SARS-CoV-2 virus has components that differ from those of previously known viruses, so they had to come from an unknown virus or viruses in nature. “Genetic data irrefutably show that SARS-CoV-2 is not derived from any previously used virus backbone,” Andersen and colleagues write in the study.


Other scientists agree. “We see absolutely no evidence that the virus has been engineered or purposely released,” says Emma Hodcroft, a molecular epidemiologist at the University of Basel in Switzerland. She was not part of Andersen’s group, but is a member of a team of scientists with Nextstrain.org that is tracking small genetic changes in the coronavirus to learn more about how it is spreading around the world.

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Meanwhile The more you know ..


Finding peculiar features

Andersen’s group next set out to determine whether the virus could have been accidentally released from a lab. That’s a real possibility because researchers in many places are working with coronaviruses that have potential to infect humans, he says. “Stuff comes out of the lab sometimes, almost always accidentally,” he says.

A couple of unexpected features of the virus caught the researchers’ eyes, Andersen says. In particular, the gene encoding the coronavirus’s spike protein has 12 extra RNA building blocks, or nucleotides, stuck in it.

This spike protein protrudes from the virus’ surface and allows the virus to latch onto and enter human cells. That insertion of RNA building blocks adds four amino acids to the spike protein, and creates a site in the protein for an enzyme called furin to cut. Furin is made in human cells, and cleaves proteins only at spots where a particular combination of amino acids is found, like the one created by the insertion. SARS and other SARS-like viruses don’t have those cutting sites.

Finding the furin cutting site was a surprise: “That was an aha moment and an uh-oh moment,” Garry says. When bird influenza viruses acquire the ability to be cut by furin, the viruses often become more easily transmissible. The insertion also created places where sugar molecules could be fastened to the spike protein, creating a shield to protect the virus from the immune system.

The COVID-19 virus’ spike protein also binds more tightly to a protein on human cells called ACE2 than SARS does (SN: 3/10/20). Tighter binding may allow SARS-CoV-2 to more easily infect cells. Together, those features may account for why COVID-19 is so contagious (SN: 3/13/20).

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I am with Bob here the goddamn crazies on both sides need a spanking and time out for fucks sakes.
Stop the political stoooooooopid.........all of you.
This is America that means keep your religion,politics,sexual orientation,skin color and gender tardation to YOURSELF.
The rest of us ain't responsible or concerned about it.
We are concerned with you literally creating the conditions for a dictator to take over.......please stop the needless panic.




Gracias for letting me vent that out I feel a bit overwhelmed by all the extreme political,racial and social bigotry being espoused so openly by democrats.
I thought that shit stopped during the new dealio........racism is racism.
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i am also with bob, let 's help the people. fuck the bickering..
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I’ve got a friend who is one of the nation’s leading scientists working on this for Team USA and explains it like this: think of the borg ... from star trek ...assimilation...the issue with this RNA-virus is that each patient presents as unique.

Because it effects each individually, differently, makes this a bitch to isolate what will be effective treatment.

Yes we know some have lung issues and go into acute respiratory distress, but some others have kidney failure and still others seem to have cardiac events that lead to heart attacks.

Due to the fact that some are asymptomatic and others seem to be able to carry and not get infected and others are gone in a matter of hours means this shit is still evolving and yes the little corona spikes are a big issue because due to the osmotic pressure of your cells its impossible to keep the virus from latching on if you will.

Possible solutions to this are to study the effects of ACE inhibitors to deprive the virus of a protrusion to latch onto buying a little time but average clinical study is 18 months, and we could be in a much more real world of hurt by then.

Either the serum is going to work to produce natural antibodies from the recovered or there’s gonna be a whole lot of dead people while we await clinical trials.

The worst part about the whole situation is in this country America is we have spent the better part of the last nearly 50 years on a profit based model for Healthcare that saw HMOs and insurance companies reward CEOs with huge compensation packages rather than put profits back into patient development.

There’s only about 6,200 hospitals in America — 3,800 in urban areas about 1,800 in the rural communities.

We have 330,000,000+ people in the country and we have about 1 million hospital beds, of which about 200,000 are ICU capable, 100,000 ready to go, with about 60,000 already in use on any given day.

The numbers don’t look good.

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We still have zero cases in our local rural hospital.
The numbers say we will be ok as we are seeing very different scenarios play out in differing societies.
Wealth in a society seems to be the cure.
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Hiya arb! Yeah there are 0 cases of infection are hospitalization here in my little rural County.

Younger Adults Make Up Big Portion of Coronavirus Hospitalizations in U.S.
New C.D.C. data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54. But the risk of dying was significantly higher in older people.
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8 weeks ago it was only 20%

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The more you know..

Coronavirus is a large family of viruses that includes many different diseases. SARS-CoV-2 does share similarities with other coronaviruses, four of which can cause the common cold. All five viruses have spiky projections on their surfaces and utilize so-called spike proteins to infect host cells. However, the four cold coronaviruses — named 229E, NL63, OC43 and HKU1 — all utilize humans as their primary hosts. SARS-CoV-2 shares about 90% of its genetic material with coronaviruses that infect bats, which suggests that the virus originated in bats and later hopped to humans. 

Evidence suggests that the virus passed through an intermediate animal before infecting humans. Similarly, the SARS virus jumped from bats to civets (small, nocturnal mammals) on its way into people, whereas MERS infected camels before spreading to humans.

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