Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it faked?
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
back to that 'removal' and the field thing
you will notice that they forget that a violation of the speed of light occurred when they
'removed the sun' from the solar system. and since light is particulate those that left its surface march onward in its absence
but when you concider gravity your talking about a field of influence around the sun which extends out past the limits of all bodies which orbit it.
we know how to turn maganitism and light off and on in devices we have created
we have never seen masses effect turned off and on
at present I think the science is well confirmed that the transfer of information between entangled particles has been shown to be occurring at speeds significantly faster than the speed of light we measure
then will most likely be shown to simply be that there is a medium within which light travels faster than any we have presently observed
you will notice that they forget that a violation of the speed of light occurred when they
'removed the sun' from the solar system. and since light is particulate those that left its surface march onward in its absence
but when you concider gravity your talking about a field of influence around the sun which extends out past the limits of all bodies which orbit it.
we know how to turn maganitism and light off and on in devices we have created
we have never seen masses effect turned off and on
at present I think the science is well confirmed that the transfer of information between entangled particles has been shown to be occurring at speeds significantly faster than the speed of light we measure
then will most likely be shown to simply be that there is a medium within which light travels faster than any we have presently observed
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it faked?
per that next video munchy,
i would like to know more about the experimental measurement of the suns gravimetric center as compared to its luminous one
stanfords having none of it
Does gravity travel faster than the speed of light?
No, it doesn't appear to. Einstein's relativistic equation for gravity based on general relativity demands that gravity travels at the speed of light, otherwise the predictions we get for the bending of light and the precession of the perihelion of Mercury would be quite different than what is experimentally determined. Also, we can send spacecraft on long journeys through the solar system, and the light travel delays can be up to several hours. If gravity traveled at any other speed than that of light, the trajectories that are calculated for spacecraft would always come out wrong because they include gravitational influences that change from moment to moment as the spacecraft, Sun and planets change their positions. We would never be able to get all the different time delays of these gravitational influences to add up to the measured trajectory of the spacecraft.
https://einstein.stanford.edu/content/r ... q1510.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
i would like to know more about the experimental measurement of the suns gravimetric center as compared to its luminous one
stanfords having none of it
Does gravity travel faster than the speed of light?
No, it doesn't appear to. Einstein's relativistic equation for gravity based on general relativity demands that gravity travels at the speed of light, otherwise the predictions we get for the bending of light and the precession of the perihelion of Mercury would be quite different than what is experimentally determined. Also, we can send spacecraft on long journeys through the solar system, and the light travel delays can be up to several hours. If gravity traveled at any other speed than that of light, the trajectories that are calculated for spacecraft would always come out wrong because they include gravitational influences that change from moment to moment as the spacecraft, Sun and planets change their positions. We would never be able to get all the different time delays of these gravitational influences to add up to the measured trajectory of the spacecraft.
https://einstein.stanford.edu/content/r ... q1510.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
now mind you,
this collision occurred over a billion light years away...
the neutron star collision detected by the ligo gravity waves machine was also detected by radio telescopes at precisely the same time
IF gravity was traveling faster than light ligo's would have detected it well in advance and the world over telescopes would have turned to capture the light and radio signals coming in later
this didn't happen
I keep hearing flandern saying Einstein theory or gravity is keeping us back
back from what?
Using a collection of National Science Foundation radio telescopes, researchers have confirmed that a narrow jet of material was ejected at near light speeds from a neutron star collision. The collision, which was observed August 17, 2017 and occurred 130 million light-years from Earth, initially produced gravitational waves that were observed by the Laser Interferometry Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO), alongside a flood of light in the form of gamma rays, X-rays, visible light, and radio waves. It was the first cosmic event to be observed in both gravitational waves and light waves.
https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/supe ... sion-83414" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On 17 August 2017 the NSF's Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) in the United States, working with the Virgo Interferometer in Italy, detected gravitational waves passing the Earth. This event, the fifth ever detected, was named GW170817. About two seconds later, two space observatories, NASA’s Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope and ESA’s INTErnational Gamma Ray Astrophysics Laboratory (INTEGRAL), detected a short gamma-ray burst from the same area of the sky.
https://www.eso.org/public/usa/news/eso1733/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
this collision occurred over a billion light years away...
the neutron star collision detected by the ligo gravity waves machine was also detected by radio telescopes at precisely the same time
IF gravity was traveling faster than light ligo's would have detected it well in advance and the world over telescopes would have turned to capture the light and radio signals coming in later
this didn't happen
I keep hearing flandern saying Einstein theory or gravity is keeping us back
back from what?
Using a collection of National Science Foundation radio telescopes, researchers have confirmed that a narrow jet of material was ejected at near light speeds from a neutron star collision. The collision, which was observed August 17, 2017 and occurred 130 million light-years from Earth, initially produced gravitational waves that were observed by the Laser Interferometry Gravitational-wave Observatory (LIGO), alongside a flood of light in the form of gamma rays, X-rays, visible light, and radio waves. It was the first cosmic event to be observed in both gravitational waves and light waves.
https://www.caltech.edu/about/news/supe ... sion-83414" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On 17 August 2017 the NSF's Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO) in the United States, working with the Virgo Interferometer in Italy, detected gravitational waves passing the Earth. This event, the fifth ever detected, was named GW170817. About two seconds later, two space observatories, NASA’s Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope and ESA’s INTErnational Gamma Ray Astrophysics Laboratory (INTEGRAL), detected a short gamma-ray burst from the same area of the sky.
https://www.eso.org/public/usa/news/eso1733/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
really good article
And so the quantum race began. Qubits can be made in different ways, but the rule is that two qubits can be both in state A, both in state B, one in state A and one in state B, or vice versa, so there are four probabilities in total. And you won’t know what state a qubit is at until you measure it and the qubit is yanked out of its quantum world of probabilities into our mundane physical reality.
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And so the quantum race began. Qubits can be made in different ways, but the rule is that two qubits can be both in state A, both in state B, one in state A and one in state B, or vice versa, so there are four probabilities in total. And you won’t know what state a qubit is at until you measure it and the qubit is yanked out of its quantum world of probabilities into our mundane physical reality.
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
Right , i dont judge by one vid or any one source.Munchy wrote:don't judge the whole topic by one bad video
that's like saying one hoaxed UFO means they are all hoaxes
what do you guys think of the one by Thomas Van Flandern?
sorry i just don't have time or inclination, to watch most of the vids, Printed or published sources work better for me to review a subject.
Ok i viewed the Flandern vid and:
That vid keeps talking about curved space. But what einstein showed is space-time is curved not just space. the expert in the vid ignores time. Time IS not constant over any distance. That is why the math for orbits is so messy, that is why it means something to be a rocket scientist.
The rope crossing an orbit analogy, is odd. I understand curved space-time.
I do not understand why he thinks objects must be curved and not space.
He lost me. can anyone explain that one to me?
My feeling he trying to explain the universe in a Newtonian space but keeps talking about an Einstein space. In Newtonian space time is uniform.
When he said methane and formaldehyde are only formed from organics or volcanism. Not true both and many more organic molecules have been found in on asteroids and comets. If using that as one's premise for extraterrestrial life his conclusions are likely wrong.
It may be me, but that is why utube is a horrible source for education, printed material citing sources is my preferred venue (and hopefully peer reviewed). Even Wikipedia cites it's articles sources, otherwise it just guessing/making-things-up.
I suggest when you watch a vid, try to paraphrase or summarize what was said and concluded. If it is hard or confusing to do, suspect the source.
That whole face of mars has loooooong been debunked when NASA change the orbit of their imaging satellite for a hi-rez pic after public clamor for it. And no doubt it is a natural rock formation. For him going on about it still is at best disingenuous. I seen the hi-rez pic, it's a cooI rock formation, I even want to rock climb there.
Also anyone who says things such as “limitless source of free energy” is suspect fer sure.. Needs extraordinary proof.
Now I can relate to his misgivings about the present theories in physics and the quantum zoo, I too doubt we got it 100% right, but to give up on the scientific method to move forward and resort only to conjecture is disheartening to me.
as for gravity push theory and his and exploding planets are interesting, the idea is new to me, i would like to see some experiments to test it. tho i do not see how to.
my opinion fwiw.
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it faked?
this guys good
gets around to how close they are to quantum gravity near the end
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03- ... ation-rand" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRLDatmbgA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
gets around to how close they are to quantum gravity near the end
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
you guys do realize that this whole speed of gravity sidetrack is based merely on a random thought I had about how SSP vehicles could become invisible, right? Even if that idea is flawed, this does not mean that there is no SSP, nor that the Apollo missions actually went to the moon. I'm sure there are many other possibilities as to why we wouldn't see the SSP vehicles.
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I realize its a sidestep to an avenue of enquiry which might offer a technical solution to the behavior or crafts both witnessed and imagined for which we presently have none as they all violate both the standard model and the quantum model
I still think the position of radiation experiment is tremendously intriguing
were talking several arc minutes if its the case and it seem it would be so easy to do and repeat and illustrate
would like to see that rather than just hear its occured
I still think the position of radiation experiment is tremendously intriguing
were talking several arc minutes if its the case and it seem it would be so easy to do and repeat and illustrate
would like to see that rather than just hear its occured
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meanwhile
The Washington Post—citing the National Center for Science Education (NCSE), which tracks anti-science legislation—reported Monday that state legislators already have introduced more than a dozen measures targeting science education in 2019. That's more in less than three months than NCSE typically expects for an entire year.
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The Washington Post—citing the National Center for Science Education (NCSE), which tracks anti-science legislation—reported Monday that state legislators already have introduced more than a dozen measures targeting science education in 2019. That's more in less than three months than NCSE typically expects for an entire year.
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Poll: Did Apollo missions go to the moon, or was it fake
Yes, but faulty premises, as i pointed out except by dumb luck, leaves to incorrect conclusions.Munchy wrote:
you guys do realize that this whole speed of gravity sidetrack is based merely on a random thought I had about how SSP vehicles could become invisible, right? Even if that idea is flawed, this does not mean that there is no SSP, nor that the Apollo missions actually went to the moon. I'm sure there are many other possibilities as to why we wouldn't see the SSP vehicles.
Ok Locutus, how about just summarize yer thoughts or some of the reason(s) why any ya think or evidence maybe the moon missions were faked.
or SSP's. Umm is SSP extraterrestrial craft, right?
I am interested on yer thoughts