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440Hz vs 432Hz

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:01 am
by deran
am i the only one seeing the obvious fail within this theory?

as many of you i also understand the fullest meaning of the words instrument, my "given" choice is the guitar, actually lowerd down to a drop-d(ead) tuning

i do understand the theory behind 432Hz

but here is the obvious mindfuck: Hz incorprates a time scale, read seconds, seconds are a man made unit, its nothing that is genetically or astronomically (geometrically) native to us, we defined seconds by some movements of a crystal structure we agreed up upon

what if we defined a second beeing 0,98 seconds, the Hz numbers would change, the same if a second would be 1,1 seconds

you get my catch

actually i was listening to a guitar player playing different songs, classical and also some more modern ones on 2 different tuned guitars , one on 440Hz the other on 432Hz

most of the songs sounded more "roundly" on 440Hz to me, just a few were "rounder" on 432Hz

i mighty think of me beeing too much of a musician feeling and listening to that what is deep in me

but solely of the mathematical problem, what is herz, what are seconds, i cant follow this idea, tho i understand the agenda behind it

but its false

440Hz vs 432Hz

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:31 am
by bentech
what odd to me is that were still aligned with time designations that the sumarians had made
how we devide the day into 24 and the hours and minutes into 60

these are all 6 based counting systems
like the zodiac, quite archaic

440Hz vs 432Hz

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:54 pm
by Intrinsic
a side note, the reason choosing the number 60 for second in a minute is sixty factors into 60=5 x 3 x 2 x 2. thus a minute can be divide into half, thirds, fourths, fifths or sixths easily.

Thanks deran, interesting insight. especially since noted earlier time is never uniform in a gravity field anyhows...
but what do you mean "It's false"? the proper tuning freq?

440Hz vs 432Hz

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 4:05 pm
by deran
here is the "scientific" motivation behind this trend:

simple math: 440Hz = 4 + 4 + 0 = 8 ; whereas 432Hz = 4 + 3 + 2 = 9
therefore is 432Hz "more" mathematically "compatible" or more rounder , more harmonic ... call it what you want, 440Hz not so much in comparison

in fact, todays note A , had been defined throughout history differently, we call it today A when it has this speed of 440Hz, it had different speeds , afaik slower than todays A