white rural americans can only blame themselves

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 5:48 pm

Here are the honest truths that rural Christian white Americans don’t want to accept; until they accept these truths, nothing is going to change:

Their economic situation is largely the result of voting for supply-side economic policies that have been the largest redistribution of wealth from the bottom/middle to the top in U.S. history.
Immigrants haven’t taken their jobs. If all immigrants, legal or otherwise, were removed from the U.S., our economy would come to a screeching halt and food prices would soar.
Immigrants are not responsible for companies moving their plants overseas. The almost exclusively white business owners are responsible, because they care more about their shareholders (who are also mostly white) than about American workers.
No one is coming for their guns. All that has been proposed during the entire Obama administration is having better background checks.
Gay people getting married is not a threat to their freedom to believe in whatever white god they want to. No one is going to make their church marry gays, have a gay pastor or accept gays for membership.
Women having access to birth control doesn’t affect their lives either, especially women they complain about being teenage single mothers.
Blacks are not “lazy moochers living off their hard-earned tax dollars” any more than many of their fellow rural neighbors. People in need are people in need. People who can’t find jobs because of their circumstances, a changing economy or outsourcing overseas belong to all races.
They get a tremendous amount of help from the government they complain does nothing for them. From the roads and utility grids they use to farm subsidies, crop insurance and commodities protections, they benefit greatly from government assistance. The Farm Bill is one of the largest financial expenditures by the U.S. government. Without government assistance, their lives would be considerably worse.
They get the largest share of Food Stamps, Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security.
They complain about globalization, yet line up like everyone else to get the latest Apple products. They have no problem buying foreign-made guns, scopes and hunting equipment. They don’t think twice about driving trucks whose engines were made in Canada, tires made in Japan, radios made in Korea, and computer parts made in Malaysia.
They use illicit drugs as much as any other group. But when other people do it is a “moral failing” and they should be severely punished, legally. When they do it, it is a “health crisis” that needs sympathy and attention.
When jobs dry up for whatever reason, they refuse to relocate but lecture the poor in places like Flint for staying in failing towns.
They are quick to judge minorities for being “welfare moochers,” but don’t think twice about cashing their welfare checks every month.
They complain about coastal liberals, but taxes from California and New York cover their farm subsidies, help maintain their highways and keep the hospitals in their sparsely populated rural areas open for business.
They complain about “the little man being run out of business,” and then turn around and shop at big-box stores.
They make sure outsiders are not welcome, deny businesses permits to build, then complain about businesses, plants opening up in less rural areas.
Government has not done enough to help them in many cases, but their local and state governments are almost completely Republican and so are their representatives and senators. Instead of holding them accountable, they vote them into office over and over and over again.
All the economic policies and ideas that could help rural America belong to the Democratic Party: raising the minimum wage, strengthening unions, spending on infrastructure, renewable energy growth, slowing down the damage done by climate change, and healthcare reform. All of these and more would really help a lot of rural white Americans.
What I understand is that rural Christian white Americans are entrenched in fundamentalist belief systems; don’t trust people outside their tribe; have been force-fed a diet of misinformation and lies for decades; are unwilling to understand their own situations; and truly believe whites are superior to all races. No amount of understanding is going to change these things or what they believe. No amount of niceties will get them to be introspective. No economic policy put forth by someone outside their tribe is going to be listened to no matter how beneficial it would be for them. I understand rural Christian white America all too well. I understand their fears are based on myths and lies. I understand they feel left behind by a world they don’t understand and don’t really care to. They are willing to vote against their own interests if they can be convinced it will make sure minorities are harmed more. Their Christian beliefs and morals are only extended to fellow white Christians. They are the problem with progress and always will be, because their belief systems are constructed against it.

The problem isn’t a lack of understanding by coastal elites. The problem is a lack of understanding of why rural Christian white America believes, votes, behaves the ways it does by rural Christian white America.

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Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 8:56 pm

Ben, I would have thought you to be more discerning.

While there are some valid points, this piece is full of so much bullshit and fear mongering

Boo republicans....yea democrats.

Since the author boldly claims Flint as a "failing" town, let's just look at who's responsible...

In the early 80s a democratic local government made a deal with GM to abate their property taxes in exchange for keeping jobs in Flint. 20 years later, the jobs have been moved out by GM, GM has paid no property taxes, and the city is in severe financial trouble. Yet when taking GM to court for violation of the agreement to collect the property tax abatements is suggested, a democratic local government will not even give it consideration.

Ain't no fuckin' republicans in that story...just corporate america and democrat politicians.

...but white rural america is the problem??

FUCK that author and anyone who thinks that way...

...they are as much a part of the problem as their counterparts they are whining aboot.

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:16 pm

democrats capitulating to republican goals as a reason to support democratic ideals?!?!

dont make me laugh...

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:14 am

Really??......this is the best retort you can come up with?

.....

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 11:25 am

bentech wrote:democrats capitulating to republican goals as a reason to support democratic ideals?!?!

dont make me laugh...

miswrote
should have read

"democrats capitulating to republican goals as a reason NOT to support democratic ideals?!?!"

Lrus007 · Post by **Lrus007** » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:06 pm

black city americans can only blame themselves
no recent blacks in USA were born slaves.
any of them that do try to better them selfs.. are called uncle tom's.

the jews were pounded pretty bad but made a comeback.

Lrus007

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:58 am

Oh THAT'S better Ben...

...so race baiting is a democratic ideal you want preserved, eh.

This is your best argument to defend this propagandist bullshit?

bentech · Post by **bentech** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:03 pm

race baiting???

came you please inform us as to what other race has excercised dominion over the other for the last several centuries???

propaganda???

can you pleaseinform us as to where whitey has saved the day right after he finally kept the nigger down???

Butcher Bob · Post by **Butcher Bob** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:49 pm

Yes Ben, race baiting...surely you are not that obtuse.
Why "white rural americans" and not simply "rural americans"?

Since you want to make an issue of race, why don't we throw in ethnicity as well...
Was it the white idiot Trump that stirred up muslim hatred?...or was it the jewish owned media that gave him more free publicity than any other presidential candidate in history? One could argue the jews are to blame.

But you and I both know this is not an issue of race or ethnicity...it is a socioeconomic issue...ultra-rich elitists that think they are entitled to whatever they want regardless of it's affects on the rest of society.

Yet you are drawn in, like a moth to a flame, to their error riddled propaganda.

In the words of our tweeter-in-chief......"SAD".

Sconeofark · Post by **Sconeofark** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 11:30 pm

Hey dudes, long time no see

You guys are assuming that you got past the big floating head and are really looking behind the curtain.

What seems to be happening is not near as evil as what is really happening.

In the beginning.., some men created writing and the art of story telling.

Soon this evolved into religion, a tool where the patriarch of any given group of people can conjure up an even bigger patriarch through ritual prayer. A group is joined together in mutual reverence for this unseen god thing the patriarch of the day is describing. Doing so a patriarch can strengthen his hold on his fellows through ritual behavior.

This tool was taken into the hands of commoners when printing made the art of sheep herding widely available rather than burned in huge bonfires like it should have been.

Now we have our loving government, both sides of which are as evil as the most twisted pair of dysfunctional codependent parents you can conjure.

They are Far Far more evil than we are led to believe.

One good example, we are fighting with North Korea (really) because they are building nukes and we are seemingly unable to stop them. (again really) We are also having the exact same disagreement with Iran, and seem to be having the same problem getting a lid on it.

What's really happening?

They are using Iran as an excuse to place missile defense systems very close to Russia and declaw them. They are having this beef with North Korea to do the exact same thing to China.

Of course this also applies to the war on drugs, which we all know is really a war on all poor people who are not enough like Nixon.

Our government is completely full of shit, they have been since Carter, and even he was full of a less offensive form of it.

When you go to school, its not to teach you, its to make sure you respond favorably to authority. Now the crowning achievement of ones education is a marketable skill and a huge debt to pay off with it.

Now if one is a doctor, you take the pharma money, if a lawyer you drink the corporate koolaid. Have to pay off that diploma you got to make money with.

Our Government is full of shit because it was made out of shit.

Remember Trust No One, the Minute God Crapped out the Third Cave Man a Conspiracy was hatched against One of them!