Impeachment 2.0 Unity by Justice

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I solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be,) that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [Donald J. Trump], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: so help me God.

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Of those that did show up and didn't violate their oath right off the bat, Three Republican Senators:
Lindsey Graham
Ted Cruz
Mike Lee
met with Trump's defense team to advise them on legal strategy.  These three men are "jurors" in Trump's impeachment trial.  All three raised their right hand and pledge the oath then violated it.
Bad GQP bad GQP whatcha going to do when they come for ya.

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You'd be advised to avail yourself of publicly available facts, like our Constitution that plainly states them....

Article III of the Constitution provides that “Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury”.

Furthermore, Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) explained the implication of Rehnquist’s ruling: “The Senate sitting in impeachment is a court — a court composed of 100 judges, not 100 jurors.”

And, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has held meetings with House impeachment managers regarding this farce of a "trial".

Regards,
WHAB

[Butcher Bob]

Yeah, I was going to point out the same thing...

Three Republican Senators:
Lindsey Graham
Ted Cruz
Mike Lee
met with Trump's defense team to advise them on legal strategy.  These three men are "jurors" in Trump's impeachment trial.  All three raised their right hand and pledge the oath then violated it.

While this is indeed a trial, it is nothing like a normal court proceeding. Senators have very broad powers in an impeachment trial. My understanding is that there is nothing prohibiting them from working with either the defense or the prosecution.

[Intrinsic]

Ok. If yer saying do I understand this is a political trial not a Criminal trial? yup.

Yet there is something, the oath they all took

I solemnly swear that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [Donald J. Trump], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: so help me God.

Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz—who consulted with Trump’s attorneys multiple times during the case —will claim that the answers that they wrote, to the questions that they posed, made a difference in their decision. 

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https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/2 ... #read-more

During Friday’s session, Trump’s attorneys tried to build on the objection made by Sen. Mike Lee, to claim that the call between Trump, Lee, and Sen. Tommy Tuberville was “heresay.”That sequence became the direct subject of questioning on Friday evening during Trump’s impeachment trial, when Sen. Mitt Romney and Sen. Susan Collins sent this question to both Trump’s legal team and the House impeachment managers.

Romney and Collins: “When Pres. Trump send disparaging tweets at 2:24 PM was he aware that Pence had been removed from the Senate by Secret Service for his safety.”

While Rep. Joaquin Castro made it clear Trump had to have known that the Capitol had been breached, and that the call to Sen. Tuberville made it clear Pence had been removed from the chamber, the answer from Trump’s legal team was even more telling … they didn’t have one.

Instead, Trump’s lawyers fell back on something they would repeat every time someone asked about Trump’s action or Trump’s knowledge: They blamed the House for “not doing a full investigation.” Which is an astounding claim, because the only one who had the knowledge that could answer the question is their client, Donald J. Trump.

The refusal to answer this question was the loudest silence of the whole impeachment trial. And it wasn’t the only time this happened. Here’s another question, this time from Sen. Collins and Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

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Note that Trump’s attorneys also continually acted as if the House managers had access to video or other information that was not provided to them. This is not true. Trump’s legal team had access to the same materials as the House team. Again, the only missing information here is that which could only be found in the skull of their client — a client who was invited to testify, and who refused.

Senators weren’t done poking at this obvious weak point. Sen. Bill Cassidy sent a question to both sides saying “Sen. Tuberville reports he spoke to Trump at 2:15 and told Trump that Pence had just evacuated. Presumably Trump understood that rioters were in the building. Trump then tweeted that Pence lacked courage. Does this show that Trump was tolerant of the intimidation of Pence?”

Trump attorney van der Veen answered, “Directly no, but I dispute the premise of your facts.” He then returned to attacking the House managers for not having information exclusive to their client.
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As the Senators were leaving the chamber on Friday, Sen. Tuberville underlined the weakness of this point by sticking a fork in the “heresay” argument

The removal of Pence happened at 2:15. It’s recorded on the cameras of the Senate chamber.

 Then just after Trump hung up from his conversation with Tuberville, with full knowledge that his mob was in the Capitol building and that Pence was in danger, Trump tweeted again.

This is just one sequence out of hours in which Trump displayed total disregard for either the security of the nation or the lives of those in Congress. But no other moment may so completely describe his malice and criminal indifference.

Finally, just as the session was ending on Friday, CNN reported on another aspect of Trump’s refusal to act on Jan.6 — his confrontation with House minority leader Kevin McCarthy. That conversation had already been the subject of a report used by the House managers; a report which Trump’s legal team also dismissed as “third hand"

Now CNN has more details of the phone call between Trump and McCarthy. In that call, Trump told McCarthy that the insurrectionists “cared” more about the election than McCarthy.

"Well, Kevin,” said Trump, “I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.”

McCarthy was still begging Trump to do something to call off his supporters when rioters were breaking smashing the windows of his office. Finally, frustrated that Trump was doing nothing to help, leading McCarthy to shout. “Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" 

Apparently Trump knew exactly who he was talking to … someone who would vote against Trump’s impeachment and come right down to Mar-a-Lago to beg forgiveness for ever raising his voice to his king.

[Butcher Bob]

Instead, Trump’s lawyers fell back on something they would repeat every time someone asked about Trump’s action or Trump’s knowledge: They blamed the House for “not doing a full investigation.” Which is an astounding claim, because the only one who had the knowledge that could answer the question is their client, Donald J. Trump.

The refusal to answer this question was the loudest silence of the whole impeachment trial. And it wasn’t the only time this happened. Here’s another question, this time from Sen. Collins and Sen. Lisa Murkowski.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MotherJones/ ... -to-answer

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Note that Trump’s attorneys also continually acted as if the House managers had access to video or other information that was not provided to them. This is not true. Trump’s legal team had access to the same materials as the House team. Again, the only missing information here is that which could only be found in the skull of their client — a client who was invited to testify, and who refused.

Mother Jones.....pfft.

Let's be clear. It is not the job of defense, to help the prosecution with their case. It is also the right of the defendant, to refuse to testify. These are basic tenets of law. Crying over such things displays either great incompetense or great deceit.

[Lrus007]

shit show is over.
wonder what the dems will try next..

[bentech]

diidnt follow it closely but was disappointed that the prosecution didnt firm up the years long relationship trump had with his followers; the people who traveled to attend as many rallys as possible and watched all them ones they missed

the word is 'groomed'

trump spent 5 years GROOMING his violent supporters into a psycotic force that deserved such recokening that

A there had to be DOZENS of inteligence reports presented to trump regarding the threat they were/are and because of this, his words in the weeks leading up to the 6th and that day
were not falling on the ears of your 'average' citizens. and

B, dont ever forget that the definition of 'incite' is not 'ordered' as his defense would like you to believe...

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The final vote was
57 guilty to 43 not guilty.

Trump exonerated.

Republican Sens. Richard Burr of North Carolina, Susan Collins of Maine, Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Mitt Romney of Utah, Ben Sasse of Nebraska and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania all voted guilty.


Help I'm steppin' into the twilight zone
The place is a madhouse,
Feels like being cloned
My beacon's been moved under moon and star
I'm steppin' into the twilight zone..

Mitch McConnell denouncing Trump's December 6th insurrection, turning his evil SatanHood directly at Trump. Ripping him a new one.

Stepping into the Twilight Zone

McConnell slimed out why he voted not guilty,

Drum roll..
..Cuz He's out of office
.. But but he was impeached in office?? This is just a trial.

[Intrinsic]

shit show is over.
wonder what the dems will try next..

Why after the feasting-of-the-babies, the Dems will go ahead with criminal prosecution now.

[Butcher Bob]

...the Dems will go ahead with criminal prosecution now.

Eh, I think that will largely be as ineffective as the impeachments...just more "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" press time for the various actors.

My understanding is that there is a simple procedure that would just disqualify Trump from ever holding office again. I saw it mentioned by a few folks, both Dems and Reps, as an alternative to an impeachment trial. At the time, the idea had support from a majority of Reps. I would imagine Dems will pursue that avenue now...but going through with the impeachment trial may have lost previous Rep support. They should have done that from the start...quietly and without fanfair, to garner as much Rep support as possible.

[Lrus007]

14th amend will be there next shit show.

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Make America White Again.

Mitch McConnell eerily gave an excellent presentation and confirmation of the prosecution's arguments. Trump is guilty of insurrection.
Guilty guilty guilty according to Mitch McConnell:

January 6th was a disgrace.
"American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of democratic business they did not like.

"Fellow Americans beat and bloodied our own police. They stormed the Senate floor. They tried to hunt down the Speaker of the House. They built a gallows and chanted about murdering the Vice President.
"They did this because they had been fed wild falsehoods by the most powerful man on Earth — because he was angry he'd lost an election.
"Former President Trump's actions preceding the riot were a disgraceful dereliction of duty.
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There is no question that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of that day.
"The people who stormed this building believed they were acting on the wishes and instructions of their President.
"And their having that belief was a foreseeable consequence of the growing crescendo of false statements, conspiracy theories, and reckless hyperbole which the defeated President kept shouting into the largest megaphone on planet Earth.
"The issue is not only the President's intemperate language on January 6th.
"It is not just his endorsement of remarks in which an associate urged 'trial by combat.'
"It was also the entire manufactured atmosphere of looming catastrophe; the increasingly wild myths about a reverse landslide election that was being stolen in some secret coup by our now-President.


"I defended the President's right to bring any complaints to our legal system. The legal system spoke. The Electoral College spoke. As I stood up and said clearly at the time, the election was settled.
"But that reality just opened a new chapter of even wilder and more unfounded claims.
"The leader of the free world cannot spend weeks thundering that shadowy forces are stealing our country and then feign surprise when people believe him and do reckless things.
"Sadly, many politicians sometimes make overheated comments or use metaphors that unhinged listeners might take literally.
"This was different.
"This was an intensifying crescendo of conspiracy theories, orchestrated by an outgoing president who seemed determined to either overturn the voters' decision or else torch our institutions on the way out.
"The unconscionable behavior did not end when the violence began.
"Whatever our ex-President claims he thought might happen that day... whatever reaction he says he meant to produce... by that afternoon, he was watching the same live television as the rest of the world.
"A mob was assaulting the Capitol in his name. These criminals were carrying his banners, hanging his flags, and screaming their loyalty to him.
"It was obvious that only President Trump could end this.
"Former aides publicly begged him to do so. Loyal allies frantically called the Administration.
"But the President did not act swiftly. He did not do his job. He didn't take steps so federal law could be faithfully executed, and order restored.
"Instead, according to public reports, he watched television happily as the chaos unfolded. He kept pressing his scheme to overturn the election!
"Even after it was clear to any reasonable observer that Vice President Pence was in danger... even as the mob carrying Trump banners was beating cops and breaching perimeters... the President sent a further tweet attacking his Vice President.
"Predictably and foreseeably under the circumstances, members of the mob seemed to interpret this as further inspiration to lawlessness and violence.
"Later, even when the President did halfheartedly begin calling for peace, he did not call right away for the riot to end. He did not tell the mob to depart until even later.
"And even then, with police officers bleeding and broken glass covering Capitol floors, he kept repeating election lies and praising the criminals.
"In recent weeks, our ex-President's associates have tried to use the 74 million Americans who voted to re-elect him as a kind of human shield against criticism.
"Anyone who decries his awful behavior is accused of insulting millions of voters.
"That is an absurd deflection.
"74 million Americans did not invade the Capitol. Several hundred rioters did.
"And 74 million Americans did not engineer the campaign of disinformation and rage that provoked it.
"One person did.
"I have made my view of this episode very plain.

Then just that very day the Senate just set the precedent that a president can be tried & impeached while out of office. And What was Mitch's excuse... ..yeah.

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Hmmmm Lrus, we both missed what else them dems are up to next.



Nancy Pelosi Announces Plans For 9/11-Style Commission To Study Capitol Attack
https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impe ... tol-attack

[Butcher Bob]

Nothing like more self-flagellation.

Wonder how they are going to explain away their promoting the claim that a police officer was bludgeoned to death by protesters with a fire extinguisher? Seems the NYT had to retract their story, after the coroner found no evidence of any blunt force trauma on the body, and they also admitted that their "Capital Hill Police sources" were not actually Capital Hill Police.

Seems WaPo is closer to the actual cause....underlying societal problems.

Nancy's just wasting everyone's time, efforts, and resources.

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Finding more gullible white supremacist drinking Trump's Big Lie.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_6026 ... 8289fb90a6

At least 57 local elected Republicans attended the “Stop the Steal” Trump rally that occurred moments before the Capitol insurrection on Jan. 6, only two of the 57 elected officials have resigned: West Virginia delegate Derrick Evans, who filmed himself storming the Capitol, and Jorge Riley, a Republican leader in Sacramento.

Most of the others have refused to vacate their positions or take responsibility for their involvement in the Capitol riots. “16 GOP members of state houses, 4 state senators, 6 county commissioners, 7 city council members, 2 mayors, 3 school board members, 2 prosecutors & more all attended the 1/6 insurrection".

Before they're prosecuted, first ought to be 14th Amendment-ed. Dirty white supremacist.

Dirty White Boy