Biden's blunders...

Unmoderated except for TOU and security breaches.
User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

On to more biden picks...from mildly irritating to rage inducing...
Tom Vilsack - Secretary of Agriculture

2017 - present ... President and CEO of the US Dairy Export Council
2009 - 2017 ... Secretary of Agriculture
1999 - 2007 ... Governor of Iowa
1993 - 1999 ... Iowa Senate
1987 - 1992 ... Mayor of Mount Pleasant

...volunteered in the 1987 presidential campaign of Joe Biden.

In first year of his second term <as Governor>, Vilsack used a line-item veto, later ruled unconstitutional by the Iowa Supreme Court, to create the Grow Iowa Values Fund, a $503 million appropriation designed to boost the Iowa economy by offering grants to corporations...
Candidates seeking to replace Vilsack...criticized this program. They complained that companies attracted to Iowa by the fund can be lured away by financial incentives elsewhere and that the legislation does not promote new business creation.

Vilsack vetoed a bill to restrict Iowa's use of eminent domain, citing its potential for negative impact on job creation.
His veto was overridden by the legislature.

In 2005, Vilsack established Heartland PAC, a political action committee aimed at electing Democratic governors.

Vilsack was the founder and former chair of the Governor's Biotechnology Partnership, and was named Governor of the Year by the Biotechnology Industry Organization, an industry lobbying group.

In March 2012, Vilsack joined three midwest governors in a campaign to defend the use of a processed beef product made from trimmings left after beef carcasses are butchered, dubbed "pink slime" by its critics.

At a Drake University forum on climate change April 22, 2014 Vilsack stated "agriculture tends to take the brunt of criticism about climate change, but the industry contributes only 9 percent of the greenhouse gases blamed for a warming planet" and that while there were "challenges globally in terms of agriculture and its contribution to greenhouse gas emissions that's not necessarily the case in the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Vilsack" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not brought up in an agricultural household, no agricultural education, and no agricultural experience...until Obama appointed him as Secretary of Agriculture. During which he apparently did not oppose companies like Monsanto.

Marcia Fudge - Secretary of Housing and Urban Development

In 2015, Fudge wrote a letter asking for leniency in the sentencing of Lance Mason. Fudge described Mason as "kind," and wrote that "Lance [...] has assured me that something like this will never happen again." Mason subsequently attacked and killed his (now) ex-wife, in 2018, stabbing her 59 times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Fudge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Again, not raised, educated, nor experienced in the area she has been given oversight of.
At least I can take some comfort knowing that Nina Turner will likely get her vacated House seat.


Denis McDonough - Secretary of Veterans Affairs

Again, no military experience. One would think this position should be filled with a veteran.


Now on to the rage inducing picks...

Katherine Tai - United States Trade Representative

Normally she could probably be considered a good pick...however, considering that she is of Chinese decent...and given that Swalwell's nuts are currently in a wringer over his involvement with a Chinese spy...

Suspected Chinese spy targeted California politicians

...and given the criminal investigation into Hunter Biden's China ties...

Federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings in China

...and given the CCP's opinion of Biden's presidency...



...I don't think the appointment is appropriate, at minimum for the sake of appearance.


And finally, a gigantic "FUK YOU" to us...
Susan Rice - Director of the Domestic Policy Council

A former Brookings Institution fellow, Rice served as a foreign policy advisor to Democratic presidential nominees Michael Dukakis, John Kerry, and Barack Obama. After Obama won the 2008 presidential election, Rice was nominated as Ambassador to the United Nations.
...defended Israel at the Security Council, pushed for tough sanctions against Iran and North Korea, and advocated for U.S. and NATO intervention in Libya in 2011.

Mentioned as a possible replacement for retiring United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2012, Rice withdrew from consideration following controversy related to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi.

At the time of the 1994 Rwandan genocide, Rice reportedly said, "If we use the word 'genocide' and are seen as doing nothing, what will be the effect on the November election?" She denied the quote but acknowledged the mistakes made at the time...

Timothy M. Carney, former U.S. ambassador to Sudan, co-authored an op-ed in 2002 claiming that in 1997 Sudan offered to turn over its intelligence on bin Laden but that Rice...successfully lobbied for continuing to bar U.S. officials from engaging with the Khartoum government.

In the context of the Rwandan, Ugandan, AFDL and Angolan invasion of Zaire (later known as the Democratic Republic of the Congo) in 1996 and overthrow of dictator Mobutu Sese Seko, Rice is alleged to have said that "Anything's better than Mobutu." According to Gérard Prunier, a staffer to the Assistant Secretary said that "the only thing we have to do is look the other way," with respect to regional intervention in the conflict. New York Times correspondent Howard W. French said that according to his sources, Rice herself made the remark.

On July 7, 1998, Rice was a member of an American delegation to visit detained Nigerian president-elect Basorun Moshood Kashimawo Olawale Abiola. During this meeting, Abiola suffered a fatal heart attack.

Rice supported U.S. efforts to reach both the Lusaka Ceasefire Agreement in the Congo and the Lomé Peace Accord in Sierra Leone. Some observers criticized the Sierra Leone agreement as too indulgent of the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) and for bringing the war criminal Foday Sankoh into government, leading to the adoption of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1313, which blamed the RUF for the continuing conflict in the west African country.

Rice had a poor relationship with State Department veteran Richard Holbrooke...

...in a December 2002 NPR interview, Rice said, "It's clear that Iraq poses a major threat. It's clear that its weapons of mass destruction need to be dealt with forcefully, and that's the path we're on. ..."

Rice criticized Obama's Republican opponent in the campaign, John McCain, calling his policies "reckless" and dismissing the Arizona senator's trip to Iraq as "strolling around the market in a flak jacket."

As the 2011 Libyan Civil War progressed, the United States and its allies offered a choice for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and his aides: step down from power or face an international response. Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as "frankly, delusional." In a closed-door Security Council meeting in April 2011, Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence, and that Gaddafi's troops has been issued Viagra. Together with National Security Council figure Samantha Power, who already supported the U.S.-led military intervention in Libya, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who came to support it, the three overcame internal opposition from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, security adviser Thomas E. Donilon, and counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, to have the administration advance a UN proposal to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and authorize other military actions as necessary.

In January 2012, after the Russian and Chinese veto of a Security Council resolution calling on Syrian president Bashar al-Assad to step down, Rice strongly condemned both countries, saying, "They put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully," and adding that "we the United States are standing with the people of Syria. Russia and China are obviously with Assad." In her words, "the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."

2012 Benghazi attack...Rice appeared on five major interview shows to discuss the attacks. Prior to her appearance, Rice was provided with "talking points" from a CIA memo...
Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public.
A group of 97 House Republicans sent a letter to President Obama on November 19 to say Rice's statements were "misleading" and that she should accordingly not be considered a candidate to succeed Hillary Clinton in 2013 as Secretary of State. Some Republican senators, who would have had a vote on whether to confirm Rice, also voiced objections and said their meetings with Rice at the end of November 2012 did not ease their concerns.

Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes against Syria's chemical weapons facilities, following the Assad regime's use of sarin gas against civilians in August 2013. She argued to move forward with strikes to punish Assad, correctly predicting Congress would not grant authorization.

...during the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict. She also negotiated a new memorandum of understanding between the U.S. and Israel in 2016 for $38 billion of military assistance, the largest such package in Israel's history.

Rice supported South Sudanese independence and initial U.S. aid to the government of president Salva Kiir Mayardit. When the South Sudanese Civil War broke out in 2013 between President Kiir's forces and forces led by vice president Riek Machar, the U.S. continued its support for the Kiir administration despite reports from U.S. embassy staff of atrocities committed by the government.

Rice was perceived as close to Rwanda's president Paul Kagame. Some critics of the Obama administration's Africa policy faulted Rice for what they viewed as the U.S.'s failure to take action against Rwanda for its role in the Kivu conflict.

On March 28, 2018, Rice was appointed to the board of directors at Netflix.

Rice also criticized Trump's decision to withdraw U.S. troops from Syria...

...is a member of the Aspen Strategy Group, American Academy of Diplomacy, and Council on Foreign Relations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
AW HELL NO !! :pullhair:

User avatar
Intrinsic
Advanced Grower
Karma Hippie
Karma Hippie
Has bestowed Karma : 1797 times
Received Karma : 1578 times
Posts: 7705
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:51 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Intrinsic »

Butcher Bob quoted:
Rice had a poor relationship with State Department veteran Richard Holbrooke,
Wikipedia continued:
she considered to be meddling on her turf and who in return felt she was rising too quickly in U.S. diplomatic ranks.
So?

Butcher Bob quoted:
In January 2012, after the Russian and Chinese veto of a Security Council resolution calling on Syrian president Bashar al-Assad to step down, Rice strongly condemned both countries, saying, "They put a stake in the heart of efforts to resolve this conflict peacefully," and adding that "we the United States are standing with the people of Syria. Russia and China are obviously with Assad." In her words, "the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."
Her stance is pro people versus pro-government. So that's bad?

Butcher Bob quoted:
2020 Benghazi attack...Rice appeared on five major interview shows to discuss the attacks. Prior to her appearance, Rice was provided with "talking points" from a CIA memo...
Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public.
A group of 97 House Republicans sent a letter to President Obama on November 19 to say Rice's statements were "misleading" and that she should accordingly not be considered a candidate to succeed Hillary Clinton in 2013 as Secretary of State. Some Republican senators, who would have had a vote on whether to confirm Rice, also voiced objections and said their meetings with Rice at the end of November 2012 did not ease their concerns.
Left out of butcher Bob's quote:
Since Rice's five television appearances, there have been persistent accusations that she had intentionally misled the public. However, none of the ten Benghazi investigations conducted by Congress—six by Republican-controlled House committees—determined she had. The Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee's two-year investigation did not conclude that Rice or any other government official acted in bad faith or intentionally misled the American people.
Fucken GOP making shit up. That wouldn't be doctor Rice's fault, would it?
Uh-huh.

Butcher Bob quoted:
Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes against Syria's chemical weapons facilities, following the Assad regime's use of sarin gas against civilians in August 2013. She argued to move forward with strikes to punish Assad, correctly predicting Congress would not grant authorization.
Wikipedia continued :
Rice and Kerry later worked to pursue a diplomatic solution with Russia instead. This effort led to United Nations Security Council Resolution 2118, which compelled Syria to destroy its declared chemical weapons stockpile and join the Chemical Weapons Convention. Under the agreement, 1,300 metric tons of chemical weapons were removed from Syria under international observation. However, the Assad regime either obtained or created gas for renewed chemical attacks in 2017.
And such goes on with the critique.

In addition from Wikipedia not mentioned.
During her tenure at the United Nations, Rice championed a human rights and anti-poverty agenda, elevated climate change and women's rights as global priorities, and committed the U.S. to agreements such as the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, and the U.N. Millennium Development Goals.Rice led the fight to advance LGBT rights at the U.N. Human Rights Council and was recognized for her staunch defense of Israel at the Security Council.[51][52] Rice won praise for leading the Security Council to impose the toughest sanctions to date on Iran and North Korea over their nuclear programs, and for reaffirming U.S. commitment to the UN and multilateralism.[53]
Not sure what your big beef is with her, she hasn't done anything in the administration yet and she's done good in the past. She smart, pro-science. If it's just politics then seems like a good political move, but truthfully I wouldn't know. Still what's wrong with that?

Yep looking at the ratfucking picks currently going on from T**** administrations, she looks pretty dang good. Not perfect, but I'd have a beer with her.

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

Wow...Rice is the one you pick to defend eh?
Intrinsic wrote:So?
While Holbrooke was not perfect, he was well respected. Rice's inability to get along with him is just one of many instances that display her lacking of diplomacy.
"the United States is disgusted that a couple of members of this Council continue to prevent us from fulfilling our sole purpose."
Her stance is pro people versus pro-government. So that's bad?
So our country's sole purpose is to "save" the Syrian people?
She is not pro people...she is pro war.
That wouldn't be doctor Rice's fault, would it?
Either she is too stupid to realize she was a tool of the CIA...or she knew she was lying. You pick.
Rice was the lone dissenter among President Obama's national security team on his decision to seek congressional authorization for military strikes...
She argued to move forward with strikes...
And such goes on with the critique.
Displays contempt for congressional oversight/authority.
In addition from Wikipedia not mentioned.
Refer to my initial post, that explains why I am cherrypicking info.
Not sure what your big beef is with her...
Gaza, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Rwanda, Sudan, Uganda, Angola, Congo, Niger, Iraq, Syria, Russia, China...this conniving cunt has a penchant for war. The police state in this country is bad enough. Fuk her.
Yep looking at the ratfucking picks currently going on from T**** administrations, she looks pretty dang good.
Comparing Biden to Trump, someone completely unqualified, sets a very low bar.
Perhaps you are satisfied with being only slightly less worse...but I am not.

bentech
MPG Ambassador
Karma Hippie
Karma Hippie
Custom Title: eye the witch Melancholy
Location: socal
Has bestowed Karma : 33 times
Received Karma : 28 times
Posts: 17529
Joined: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:38 pm

Biden's blunders...

Post by bentech »

the named supposed base of progressivism's RETREAT from stated influence on biden now is apalling...
"we must strive to become good ancestors" nader
https://www.myplanetganja.com/viewforum.php?f=48
FUCK jimmydorecomedy.com

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

Is it?....did you really expect any different?
All 97 in the caucus fuk'd us with CARES.
Now 96 won't find 15 to force a M4A floor vote.
Biden can piss in their faces all day long...and they won't do shit aboot it.
And in two years, the repugs will take the House. :facepalm:

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

A couple more blunders...

The first being some political payback...
Pete Buttigieg - Secretary of Transportation

...second term as mayor...
In 2013, Buttigieg proposed a "Smart Streets" urban development program to improve South Bend's downtown area, and in early 2015—after traffic studies and public hearings—he secured a bond issue for the program backed by tax increment financing. "Smart Streets" was aimed at improving economic development and urban vibrancy as well as road safety. The project involved the conversion of one-way streets in downtown to two-way streets, traffic-calming measures, the widening of sidewalks, streetside beautification (including the planting of trees and installation of decorative brickwork), the addition of bike lanes and the introduction of roundabouts.

After Biden was declared the winner of the election on November 7, 2020, Buttigieg was again mentioned as a possible nominee for Secretary of Veterans Affairs, Ambassador to the United Nations, Ambassador to China or Secretary of Transportation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Buttigieg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wow....what a slap in the face to Mayor Pete. THIS, is what you got, to drop out and endorse? ... :roflmao:

Given the establishment's acceptance of Pete, and Biden's statement that he wanted to help groom young politicians like Pete for top positions...I wholly expected a better position for Pete. He is much better suited for the other three positions that were considered...they would provide him with better experience for future roles...and they have more power. Secretary of Transportation is a political dead end street. But, evidently Joe thinks doing a small town main street beautification project qualifies you to oversee the nation's transportation infrastructure.


The next one, I'm a bit at odds with...
Jennifer Granholm - Secretary of Energy

2003 - 2011 ... Governor of Michigan
1999 - 2003 ... Attorney General of Michigan

First term <as Governor>...
Granholm also supported alternative energy jobs to Michigan to replace lost auto manufacturing jobs.

Second term...
She had one of the lowest approval ratings for any governor in the United States.
Granholm delivered her sixth State of the State address on January 29, 2008. The speech focused mainly on creating jobs in Michigan through bringing alternative energy companies to Michigan. Through passing a renewable portfolio standard, which would require that 10 percent of Michigan's energy would come from renewable sources by 2015 and 25 percent by 2025, Granholm expected the alternative energy industry to emerge in Michigan. Since the passage of the standard, Mariah Power, Global Wind Systems, Cascade Swift Turbine, Great Lakes Turbine, and 38 other companies have announced new projects in Michigan. The solar and wind power industries now provide over 10,000 jobs in Michigan. As a result of Granholm's efforts, Michigan is now fourth in the nation in the number of jobs in the solar industry and first in the nation for clean energy patents.

With the election of Barack Obama as president, Granholm joined his economic advisory team, having had extensive experience running the Michigan economy, and there was speculation that she might join the Obama administration.

As a senior advisor to The Pew Charitable Trusts' Clean Energy Program and founder of The American Jobs Project at UC Berkeley, Granholm spearheads a campaign for a national clean energy policy that promotes and funds American energy independence and home-grown manufacturing and innovation for wind, solar, and advanced battery industries across the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Granholm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She talks a good game...but it's her actual performance I'm worried aboot. By the end of her governorship, she had voters so pissed at Dems, that they elected a guy who ended up poisoning the city of Flint...and who endorsed Biden after getting caught. And she was another one of the clowns that helped shape Obama's failed economic policy.



And I can't even classify these as true 'Biden blunders'. Blunders they are for sure, but this is not something unique to Joe. Seems like most of our political leadership does the same thing. Which is exactly what you would do if your goal was to do nothing.

When I got my first "professional" job, I was highly educated in the field...but it took 3 years to know it like the back of my hand and fix all the existing problems. I just have a hard time envisioning someone unfamiliar with what they are charged with overseeing, making any real progress before they are replaced. What's the average turn around for these positions?...2...3 years? I think everybody understands the difference in productivity of a "crew", depending on whether the "boss" knows their shit or doesn't.

I guess Joe meant it when he said..."Nothing will fundamentally change." :dunno:

User avatar
Intrinsic
Advanced Grower
Karma Hippie
Karma Hippie
Has bestowed Karma : 1797 times
Received Karma : 1578 times
Posts: 7705
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:51 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Intrinsic »

Biden's biggest blunder so far is the notion that Republicans will change when Trump is gone.


Forgive and forget is a better policy then prosecution and a hard lesson for future politicians to fly straight

As if.....

No more demanding Obama's birth certificate,
Finding that Obama wearing a tan suit is worst ever,
Ignoring Congressional subpoenas during an impeachment,
Playing down the coronavirus so millions of people will die for herd immunity,
Inciting Armed Insurgency to overthrow Fair elections,
Open displays of white supremacy, BLM sign burning reminiscent of cross burning in support of the police state,
no more jim Crow Voter suppression laws
And Treating science as trash.

Riiighttttt....

Yep Joe Biden's biggest blunder is thinking the Republicans will go back to sanity and reason when Trump "Fades away"
Go back to being reasonable!!
They were never reasonable, there is nothing to go back to.

McConnell, Barr, Wolfe, Dejoy, the gop Senate et al are criminals. No forgetting.
No forgiveness for anyone supporting of Trump and Mike Pence's mishandling of the Coronavirus pandemic.

Big mistake, huge mistake. Deadly mistake.

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

Intrinsic wrote:Forgive and forget is a better policy then prosecution...

Blah blah blah...

McConnell, Barr, Wolfe, Dejoy, the gop Senate et al are criminals. No forgetting.
No forgiveness for anyone supporting of Trump...
:confused: ........... :roflmao:

So failure to contain a man made virus released by a foreign country is worse than lying us into imperialistic actions killing millions of innocents intentionally?

Oh look, the NDAA just overwhelmingly passed in short order with another increase to military spending...while Pelosi admits to holding up relief for citizens, in order to get Joe elected.

You did see the zoom where Biden tells civil rights leaders to STFU...right?

"Trump gone, now what?...NOW WHAT?!?"
Ice Cube

User avatar
Intrinsic
Advanced Grower
Karma Hippie
Karma Hippie
Has bestowed Karma : 1797 times
Received Karma : 1578 times
Posts: 7705
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:51 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Intrinsic »

 failure to contain a man made virus released by a foreign country
Jesus H Christ. Cue Q conspiracist. :loony:
is worse than lying us into imperialistic actions killing millions of innocents intentionally?
What? Reason to forgive? What? Changes Republican Wingnuts rationality??
Oh look, the NDAA just overwhelmingly passed in short order with another increase to military spending...while Pelosi admits to holding up relief for citizens, in order to get Joe elected.

You did see the zoom where Biden tells civil rights leaders to STFU...right?
So? Doesn't negate forgiving pandemic and economic disasters alone is still the bigger mistakes. Lessons not learned.
"Trump gone, now what?...NOW WHAT?!?"
If only, if we weren't left with y'all Trump apologist. Can't wait. Faster faster lights are turning red..
Proving my point, biggest mistake to date.

User avatar
Butcher Bob
Karma God
Karma God
Has bestowed Karma : 1332 times
Received Karma : 931 times
Posts: 3935
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 10:18 am

Biden's blunders...

Post by Butcher Bob »

Intrinsic wrote:Cue Q conspiracist. :loony:
Perhaps you could point out what is conspiratorial...
Mainstream media reports covid is from a scaly anteater originating in an open market in Wuhan. "Bat lady" Shi Zhengli says no, it's from bats. Defector Li-Meng Yan claims covid-19 is man made and was intentionally released. Mainstream media reports Yan's claims as debunked. Sound right so far? Turns out "bat lady" is a viral geneticist, based in a government genetics lab in Wuhan, that has been working with covid for 15 years, at least the last 6 of which have been doing "gain-of-function experiments". She is still living comfortably in China, and has vehemently denied the desire of seeking asylum from them. Whereas Yan, a virologist from the same lab, seeks asylum in the US from China, accusing her peers in the scientific community and her country of committing war crimes...and who will be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life. Am I getting anything wrong yet? Maybe you still think it came from a scaly anteater...but I find it more likely one of the experiments found it's way out of the lab.
What? ... What?
Eh, I was just picking Joe's costliest blunders. I could have just as easily pointed out the millions of folks whose lives he's touched with the crime bills and the bankruptcy bill.
...Pelosi admits to holding up relief for citizens, in order to get Joe elected.

...Biden tells civil rights leaders to STFU...
So? Doesn't negate forgiving pandemic and economic disasters alone is still the bigger mistakes.
What I'm hearing from you is...

"I'm not bad!...because someone else is worse!! :bigcry:

Both of those actions are horrendous on their face...they need not be compared to anything else.
...y'all Trump apologist.
That has irony on so many levels...it's like a "where's Waldo", where everyone is Waldo. :p

Post Reply