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How goes the circle jerk? :whistle:

Did you blow your load at the judiciary committee's vote?

WE'RE GOING TO IMPEACH TRUMP!....but meanwhile, we are going to give him...

- A renewal of the Patriot Act.

- Approval of everything Trump wanted in the NDAA.

- Approval of USMCA.

- And a record 2 SCOTUS, 50 Circuit, and 120 District federal court judges on the fast track plan...so many vacancies filled, that Trump has moved on to lower court appointments.

Is Snowden still living in exile?...are Manning and Assange still in prison?...is any action being taken on the OPCW's whistleblowers' revelations?

...meanwhile...

- Three quarters of a million US citizens lose foodstamp coverage.

- Long time Israeli allie Netanyahu is indicted on corruption.

- While we send 14,000 MORE troops to Saudi Arabia to defend THEIR interests...

- ...a Saudi national, that we are training at one of our domestic bases, commits an act of terrorism agaist us, killing 3 and wounding 8 others.

- And to top it off, Greta tells world leaders at COP25 'You're not fukking listening!', as we learn that not only are we not going to meet the ideal goal of only a 1.5* increase by 2100, nor the acceptable goal of 2*, nor the threshold limit of 3*, but the new studies indicate a projection of an 8* increase by 2100.

But I digress, let's get back to the impeachment, which apparently is much more important than any of that silly stuff. From my understanding, so far the only witness with direct knowledge was Sondland, who testified quid pro quo was his presumption, and that Trump had told him directly 'no quid pro quo'. Three "legal" experts gave vast reasons why they disagree with Trump's foreign policy, and one testified that while there is a legal basis for impeachment that the evidence presented fell far short of what should be required. Nadler himself has apparently done a 180 since his views during the Clinton impeachment. It is starting to look like a self deficating action by the DNC, exemplified by revelations that have surfaced during the process...

- Pelosi admits to being a war criminal, and drags three of her cohorts down with her. In a televised CNN interview, when asked why Trump and not Bush Jr for Iraq, she stated that as one of the 'gang of four' she knew there were no WMDs, prior to any military action there.

- During the investigation some Clinton shananigans were unearthed, as the DoJ announces the indictments of 8 of her donors for campaign finance fraud. One of which got immunity to pediphile charges in exchange for testimony during the Mueller investigation. Not to worry, you can still ding Trump, as that guy funneled money to both campaigns.

- Also revealed was the behavior of our security agencies...starting with the FBI...who manufactered and altered evidence to obtain FISA warrants, supported that evidence with the Steele dossier which they knew to be bogus, and intentionally ommitted all exculpitory evidence. To understand just how offensive that is, one must first understand the '2 step' wiretaps they use. Not only do they tap the target's phone, texting, emails, social media interaction, etc. ...they also get to tap every contact they make with those media...and then they get to tap every contact those 1st level contacts make with those medias. Talk aboot an abuse of power.

- ...and now add the CIA and DoD...as WaPo is in the middle of reporting on documentation that clearly shows they lied to get us into Afghanistan, and have intentionally lied to the public aboot the war ever since, through three different presidential administrations.

And to top it all off, the latest Monmouth poll says only 45% think Trump should be removed.

Great job addressing things that actually matter. :tup:

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The circle jerk going on fine apparently, here you are reiterating the Fox & Friends talking points over and over.

Can't get outside your of your Echo chamber can you Bob. can't talk about the issue at hand, sure there's plenty of other issues that are even larger. So what? How does that change Trump thrashing separation of powers? It don't. Fallacious argument. :facepalm:

The fact that obstructing Congress from the right to subpoena, yanno separation of powers which IS an impeachable act.

But your Masters and the echo chamber has told you that it is not wrong don't ever talk about the Constitution, everything's okay. Sheep,
Well it is wrong. It is important. Capiche

God forbid you talk about that!
Party politics, what a jerk off.

"Great job addressing things that actually matter."
Oh like the important matter of playing Party politics. who's going to whoop Trump's ass? Uh huh.sooo important. :crazy:

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You're not even trying...are you beginning to see the folly?
Intrinsic wrote:How does that change Trump thrashing separation of powers?

The fact that obstructing Congress from the right to subpoena, yanno separation of powers which IS an impeachable act.

But your Masters and the echo chamber has told you that it is not wrong don't ever talk about the Constitution
Yes, so it's a good thing the founders provided a third branch, to rule on differences between the other two. But if one side is not allowing that process to play out, they can not then claim obstruction.



For some reason you think all this will besmirch Trump. His support has not faultered through this ordeal, yet it seems not to have full dem support. Numbers being floated around suggest that 10-12 dems would rather censure Trump...which would have a far better chance of gaining at least a few rep supporters.

So now while dems are performing their media circus sideshow, reps are consulting with the executive branch. They are not worried aboot removal, they know the senate will vote it down. They are not cocerned with re-election, because they believe this will actually help Trump and hurt dems. What they are discussing is what moves going forward will best help their party retain senate majority, add seats in the house, and gain governorships.

Other than dreaming up conspiracies on Trump...what exactly have dems accomplished during his term?...because the reps have a long list, that dems rolled over and gave them.

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Butcher Bob wrote: WE'RE GOING TO IMPEACH TRUMP!....but meanwhile, we are going to give him...

- A renewal of the Patriot Act.

- Approval of everything Trump wanted in the NDAA.

- Approval of USMCA.

- And a record 2 SCOTUS, 50 Circuit, and 120 District federal court judges on the fast track plan...so many vacancies filled, that Trump has moved on to lower court appointments.

Is Snowden still living in exile?...are Manning and Assange still in prison?...is any action being taken on the OPCW's whistleblowers' revelations?

...meanwhile...

- Three quarters of a million US citizens lose foodstamp coverage.

- Long time Israeli allie Netanyahu is indicted on corruption.

- While we send 14,000 MORE troops to Saudi Arabia to defend THEIR interests...

- ...a Saudi national, that we are training at one of our domestic bases, commits an act of terrorism agaist us, killing 3 and wounding 8 others.

- And to top it off, Greta tells world leaders at COP25 'You're not fukking listening!', as we learn that not only are we not going to meet the ideal goal of only a 1.5* increase by 2100, nor the acceptable goal of 2*, nor the threshold limit of 3*, but the new studies indicate a projection of an 8* increase by 2100.
Righto, We the People are impeaching Trump, not on all the other bad stuff he keeps doing, but for constitutional wrongdoing reaching the threshold of impeachment.

meanwhile
I love that you're doing the Stephen Colbert Meanwhile segment thingy.

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Is Snowden still living in exile?...are Manning and Assange still in prison?...is any action being taken on the OPCW's whistleblowers' revelations?
Is any action being taken on Donald Trump jr revelation of this threads whistleblower?

For what it's worth Manning sentence was commuted, is not in prison. You need to update your rhetoric.

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Butcher Bob wrote: - Pelosi admits to being a war criminal, and drags three of her cohorts down with her. In a televised CNN interview, when asked why Trump and not Bush Jr for Iraq, she stated that as one of the 'gang of four' she knew there were no WMDs, prior to any military action there.

- During the investigation some Clinton shananigans were unearthed, as the DoJ announces the indictments of 8 of her donors for campaign finance fraud. One of which got immunity to pediphile charges in exchange for testimony during the Mueller investigation. Not to worry, you can still ding Trump, as that guy funneled money to both campaigns.

- Also revealed was the behavior of our security agencies...starting with the FBI...who manufactered and altered evidence to obtain FISA warrants, supported that evidence with the Steele dossier which they knew to be bogus, and intentionally ommitted all exculpitory evidence. To understand just how offensive that is, one must first understand the '2 step' wiretaps they use. Not only do they tap the target's phone, texting, emails, social media interaction, etc. ...they also get to tap every contact they make with those media...and then they get to tap every contact those 1st level contacts make with those medias. Talk aboot an abuse of power.

- ...and now add the CIA and DoD...as WaPo is in the middle of reporting on documentation that clearly shows they lied to get us into Afghanistan, and have intentionally lied to the public aboot the war ever since, through three different presidential administrations.
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You're against the impeachment investigation as a waste of time yet you show agree that plenty of information has come out of investigations President Trump. besides, or ignoring, just the presidents abuse of power for personal gain . :dunno:

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EDIT Decided to move this to the impeachment forum
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Intrinsic wrote:We the People are impeaching Trump...
No, the dems in the House are doing that...."We the people" aren't voting on any such thing.
Intrinsic wrote:For what it's worth Manning sentence was commuted, is not in prison. You need to update your rhetoric.
:facepalm:
Manning was released...on May 17, 2017.
On March 8, 2019, Manning was held in contempt of court and jailed...
Manning was initially held alone in administrative segregation for 28 days...
Manning was released on May 9, 2019, after the grand jury's term expired. She was immediately served with another subpoena to appear before a new grand jury on 16 May.
On 16 May 2019, Manning...was returned to jail for the 18-month term of the grand jury.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Umm, did you miss when that shit happened?

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Yes it is we the people, he's being impeached under the Constitution. Not by a democrat legislation.
With The Constitution, We the People. capiche

No I was unaware that Manning, after Obama released her, she was jailed again under Trump's watch, thank you.

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For some reason you think all this will besmirch Trump

No I don't I think that?? That boat already sailed. You're making things up about me to fit your scenario.

I'm for truth and Justice

Idiot, I'm hoping for justice, the historical record to show President Trump wiped his ass with the Constitution. Impeached.

President Trump is taking care of besmirching himself. Everyone except Dick on this forum has bad-mouth Donald Trump. Long before impeachment. Standing in the DMV line, standing in the post office line, never hear a kind word about Trump. And I'm in a solid Republican District.
But I guess all you care about is political support you know party politics again. Not We the People.


Yes, so it's a good thing the founders provided a third branch, to rule on differences between the other two. But if one side is not allowing that process to play out, they can not then claim obstruction.

Nup, In case you hadn't been paying attention to the actual hearings instead of what Fox & Friends is telling you. One side is refusing to participate in good faith and was obstructing. It is in the historical record now. The process DID played out properly by the Constitution. Facts came forward, Republicans refused to contest them, instead you know whining about party politics.

as you did in the rest of your post.

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