Determining the kids potency by smoking dad

[arb]

I've never smoked any males.
I've let quite a few go till they died on their own,saw quite a few trichs on most of them.
The male brings 50% of the genetics to the pollination.
Obviously the male's gonna play a great deal in the final determination of potency.
I have always chosen males based on structure and vigor and will continue to do so.
The proofs in the smoke..................no doubt about it.
However proofing the smoke is a matter of apples and oranges given optimum growing and curing conditions.
I reckon at the end of the day it's gonna vary a bit from person to person so ya might as well please yerself.

[~Uncle Ben~]

I harvest ‘em for pollen and smoke. So I’d NOT say smokin ‘em is irrelevant since when ya do find a good one, you’ll know it. but ya gotta test ‘em first to find out.

It is intrinsic to want to use pollen from one that actually gets you high without a headache!

True most are just a headache to try, but a when a good one comes along ya want to breed. smoke it, amaze your friends with. I remember on OG a thread with some righteous trich action on males. If yer into closet breeding, It seems counterintuitive not to want to breed with a good one.

[Hax]

OK, the consensus is that the potency of the father in a cross has no reliable bearing on the potency of its progeny.

Not that it has "no reliable bearing", but that progeny testing is way more accurate.
Smokin the male will not necessarily be a good indicator of female expression, and neither will it take into consideration the combining ability of it's use as a parent.

Progeny testing IS the preferred breeding methodology granted. That being said potency as one of the criteria for selecting prospective pollen donors for progeny testing doesn't seem like an unreasonable concept as long as we accept the notion that potency is to some degree a heritable trait.

[Butcher Bob]

Sure, I'd concede that much........kin I use bubble bags?

[rSin]

given whos weigh in on the subject,

it would seem that notable potency in the male doesnt breed on anywhere near as potentially as other character traits that can be identified,

which is why those who have really done alot of cubing say dont bother with concidering the males by smoking...

its a poor indicator,
much better to select them via other critera

that is,
much more likely to pass something down

[hand]

Results from smoking males

[bentech]

seen several males in the wild that nobody had noticed and they had finished.
dropped all their pollen

never saw anything like that on em though

[bentech]

good thread...

[MadMoonMan]

Oh Yeah? Did you see that pic of rsin? Scares the crap out of me to this day.

[MadMoonMan]

I go by smell last but important MOMMY DADDY SURE STINKS A LOT!

That indicates potential potency. For example I bread a chemo x chemo. Chose the male by his stout stalk and mult branching and he stank when I sniffed him.

So far growing out the babies I have yet to be disappointed.