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Pretty sure I was one of the only people on OG to post a room of nothing but male plants 20 years ago....I don’t pride myself as a breeder but I’m no rookie to it....Pretty sure Steve, Luke and Chimera would agree with every word I’ve wrote, those were my teachers.

I can’t believe you just said you can take two polyhybrids and make an F1....two polyhybrids will not produce a plant that is as homogenous as an F1 hybrid that is FACT.

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^ I've probably never said this before, just because... but Roots is quite correct! :tup:
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but please do continue arguing, lol :popcorn:
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deran wrote:
Wed Aug 18, 2021 6:12 am
first generation is 50% different dna, to me thats distinctly different, half of it, ok bc its you baby roots im gonna take a second generation, thats 75% different, thats by far means distinctly different, and here comes the catch, thos 2 generation can even be side generations, or inbred filial generations , so i dont wanna talk about poli hybs, as they are far beyond the 75% in difference, to make a true f1 , yeah genes will splice up in following generations, but its no big deal to cross those back
Now you are getting stuck on the distinctly different part of it and forgetting that the parents need to be true-breeding (homozygous)

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Post by deran »

nope

a skunkXhaze crossed to a malawiXafghan will produce homogenous f1s, there will be variations, which can be measured

but those variations occur also when crossing a lunbo(lets pretend its stable) to a an affy (which is also stable, pretended) , you will have variations that lead towards the lumbo side, some that lead to the affy side, and most of it the lumboXaffy pheno, so those arent also homogenous

number of variations depends of the number of parents included, but not only that, its also depends of the part of dna thats passed on, with other words, in a 3 way cross its possible that one of those 3 plants never show up in filial generations

homgenous means interpretation of percentages in given number of donors

none homogenous means random percentages in given set, and that is not the case in our example, in a 4 way cross it be 4 x 25% ideally , but variations occur of course, count variations and see if its random or not, voila

btw, the stuff i tried from chimera and steve wasnt that special
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ah man, me and chimera used to get on...
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Post by Mister Grafik »

What would be the result of two polyhybrid?

B1? INstead of F1, since there is so much confusion.. Are we renaming it?
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Post by Mister Grafik »

What's up Deran? Serious question I didn't see you were logged in but whatever

Can I get your opinion on Lambsbread? It's what I'm planning for this season..
Lot's of people say garbage.. I remember maybe 8-9 years ago was the last time I had seen it...

60's Jamaican? 70's? Its a term for the light sativa not trip sativa? Or is it is own landrace variant?

I soaked them already but love to hear anyones thoughts
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Post by deran »

hey bud ;)

i dont have any practical experiences with it, i know just the bob marley story, supposed to be the best sativa thats around, used to be a landrace before jamaica got polluted with indica gens, the name is derived from the fine, not harsh smoke, very up high, not racy, but elevated and spiritual

in holland were seeds around mid 90s that were expensive compared to other strains, afaik 200 or 250 german marks for 10 beans (before euro times) , 14 weeks flowering time and the same instruction that was given to white widow - 10 weeks 12/12 , 2 weeks 10/14 and last 2 weeks 8/16, to stop reflowering and to be sure to finish it within that time frame

never had any jamaican ... sadly ... africa is my continent :)
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Post by Mister Grafik »

Hey there D ~

Thanks for the reply. Interesting there about the light scheduling and dually noted

Well here is some ‘77 Jamaican x 60s Lambsbread Hierloom F1 I recently recieved.

All the talk about the F1's had me itching to soak something good. So let's see how they do.
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Post by Lrus007 »

nice cup tec. is how i do it.
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